I am an atheist and subjected to bigotry. According to some Christians, I am unfit to hold some public offices. If I do not believe in your god, I cannot partake in certain politics. It begs the question, why is God a bigot?
I am an atheist and subjected to bigotry. According to some Christians, I am unfit to hold some public offices. If I do not believe in your god, I cannot partake in certain politics. It begs the question, why is God a bigot?
So because of the actions of a few people, you conclude God is a bigot. Allow me to enlighten you, as you seem to carry the same prejudice against Christians as many others, though you may not know it as a prejudice.
I'm assuming you, of course, think Christians have to be absolutely perfect. Well, that's impossible for us to do. Remember, we are human beings. And it angers me when people who say they are Christian say such things to non-Christians. My best friend is Mormon, yet I do not say he is "unfit" for anything just because he is Mormon. Remember, there are hypocrites among Christians, those who think they are doing the right thing. They decide they're going to try and remove a speck from another's eye, when they are totally blind because of the plank in their own.
So you cannot conclude God, a perfect being, is automatically a bigot through the actions of mortals, imperfect beings. At least, you can't reasonably conclude.
I don't think God is a bigot. It think that if you are a bigot, you create a Bigot God, who thinks it's ok to judge a person as unfit to hold office. You won't, say, pray to God for help, like Bush. You won't be able to blantantly lie, like Bush, because you aren't wearing sheep's clothing. You won't be able to spend a lot of money and lives on a questionable war, because it isn't a Holy War in your head, and God isn't on your side, but rather, you will think with your brain.
As 20 different Christians what God is like, and they will begin to tell you that God is love. Then they will start telling you completely different versions. To one, God hates sinners, and especially, homosexuals and abortion doctors, and will point to the OT to show how God hates the sin, AND the sinner. Another will say that God is just and merciful, and takes all things into consideration. Another will say that rules are rules, and God sends even the nicest athiest to hell, and the most cruel Christian to heaven.
They create God in their image, so that they don't have to change for God, but have God change for them.
It is the people that are the bigots, not God.
Exactly my point. The people are to blame. Many times, though, they are misunderstanding a lot of things. God doesn't hate the sinner, but hates the sin, for one thing. And I find it disturbing that some of those who say they are Christians deny the possibility of hell. To say it does not exist is to say Christ's sacrifice was in vain. If we were all going to heaven anyway, then what is the point?
Unfortunately, people are people, and tend to view things how they want to see them. Even if it distorts truth. They give true Christians a bad name, as if the world didn't hate us enough already.
It was hyperbole and perhaps a poor choice of words. I do not judge a group based on the actions of a few. There are Christians who have earned my respect. There are some who think I am inferior and unfit to hold public office due to my lack of belief.So because of the actions of a few people, you conclude God is a bigot.
I never made that assumption.Allow me to enlighten you, as you seem to carry the same prejudice against Christians as many others, though you may not know it as a prejudice.
I'm assuming you, of course, think Christians have to be absolutely perfect.
\I'm assuming you, of course, think Christians have to be absolutely perfect. Well, that's impossible for us to do. Remember, we are human beings. And it angers me when people who say they are Christian say such things to non-Christians.
Can I be honest with you?So because of the actions of a few people, you conclude God is a bigot. Allow me to enlighten you, as you seem to carry the same prejudice against Christians as many others, though you may not know it as a prejudice.
I'm assuming you, of course, think Christians have to be absolutely perfect. Well, that's impossible for us to do. Remember, we are human beings. And it angers me when people who say they are Christian say such things to non-Christians. My best friend is Mormon, yet I do not say he is "unfit" for anything just because he is Mormon. Remember, there are hypocrites among Christians, those who think they are doing the right thing. They decide they're going to try and remove a speck from another's eye, when they are totally blind because of the plank in their own.
So you cannot conclude God, a perfect being, is automatically a bigot through the actions of mortals, imperfect beings. At least, you can't reasonably conclude.
No, an atheist has concluded that gods don't exist. If a god did exist (here's my two cents) I can't imagine it would care very much whether we believed in it or not. It's certainly smart enough to use us or not regardless of our beliefs to achieve its own ends. No, the the actions of a few (far more than a few) my conclusions are that people are bigots.So because of the actions of a few people, you conclude God is a bigot.
What's the difference between a prejudice and a judgment? Oh right, one is unfair and one is fairly arrived at. Look, we're all prejudiced and racist and bigoted to some extent. The point is we know it's wrong. Those who don't are the problem.Allow me to enlighten you, as you seem to carry the same prejudice against Christians as many others, though you may not know it as a prejudice.
Just those who claim to be.I'm assuming you, of course, think Christians have to be absolutely perfect.
editedWell, that's impossible for us to do. Remember, we are human beings. And it angers me when people who say they are Christian say such things to non-Christians. My best friend is Mormon, yet I do not say he is "unfit" for anything just because he is Mormon.
That would be any Christian who thinks that what they believe applies to anyone but themselves... but, seeing as the religion tells you otherwise we have a quandary there, don't we?Remember, there are hypocrites among Christians, those who think they are doing the right thing. They decide they're going to try and remove a speck from another's eye, when they are totally blind because of the plank in their own.
You can't conclude God exists. So anything after that is just your opinion. And you're on him about the bigot thing?So you cannot conclude God, a perfect being, is automatically a bigot through the actions of mortals, imperfect beings. At least, you can't reasonably conclude.
It's just hard to see that, especially when you're on a forum everyday and you see everyone with a cross and an elephant, with the exception of a select quiet few, speaking, shouting, and throwing the same comments over and over, like you can't really tell the difference between one and the other.I agree. These Christians should be held responsible for their actions, as anyone else should. But not by you. Holding them to such an impossible standard would imply you are judging them. Yes, they are wrong for assuming they are more righteous than others, but you would be wrong to judge them in this indirect way. And such a standard would be used by those against Christianity on ALL Christians, when it clearly has been stated that not all of us are that way. That's like saying that because one person of a certain race is ignorant, that automatically makes all others in that race ignorant. You can see the bigotry in this, no?
Yes, the only human thing is an excuse for some of the Pharisee Christians, but don't be so ready to gun all of us down for the mistakes of others. Doing so would make you prejudiced against us, as I am sure it could be argued.
If Mormons truly believe the things they claim to believe then they are unfit for lots of things. For if they espoused these things under any guise but religion they'd be locked up.