This is Why Homosexuality is Wrong. . .

[MarcusHill]

How does one get concent? "Hey, buddy, do you want to go to bed?" Or is it subtle and seductive.... "You know, I can see you are a sensitive young man, perhaps you are just different ---- let me give you a hug."

In the same way as one gets consent for heterosexual sex. How many times do we need to explain that the only difference between homosexual relationships and heterosexual ones is the genders of the persons involved?

 

[TheManeki]

My wife and I like to use "Nice shoes..." on each other. Even when the addressee isn't wearing shoes.

 

[MarcusHill]

My wife and I like to use, "Nice shoes..."

"...they'd look good under my bed"?

 

[LittleNipper]

Well, that article settles it. Homosexuality is a disease and an illness.

That'll work out well for me... My husband is working on my birthday, so I'll just have him call in gay on my birthday... He can say he caught that 24-hour gay bug that's been going around, and he's sure he'll be back to heterosexual in 24 hours, and then perfectally able to come to work.



I swear, articles like this...

It is kind of like smoking. The first time is is revolting but if you think that you are being a rebel, or getting one over , or fitting in, you try it again. The next time is not so difficult. By the third it begins to become second nature. The same as shooting the enemy. The first time someone shoots another, he throws up. The next time is always easier. And all the excuses begin to make convenient sense. Once the abuse of sex, durgs, eating begins; to stop, is almost impossible ---- especially without help. AND, if all the "help" only confirms that what you are doing is OKAY, well ----- need I say more?

 

[IzzyPop]

It is kind of like smoking. The first time is is revolting but if you think that you are being a rebel, or getting one over , or fitting in, you try it again. The next time is not so difficult. By the third it begins to become second nature. The same as shooting the enemy. The first time someone shoots another, he throws up. The next time is always easier. And all the excuses begin to make convenient sense. Once the abuse of sex, durgs, eating begins; to stop, is almost impossible ---- especially without help. AND, if all the "help" only confirms that what you are doing is OKAY, well ----- need I say more?

Really? But I liked smoking the first time I had a cigarette. What does that say about your hypothesis? Once again, your analogy fails. Homosexuality harms no one. Smoking and shooting does.

 

[LittleNipper]

In the same way as one gets consent for heterosexual sex. How many times do we need to explain that the only difference between homosexual relationships and heterosexual ones is the genders of the persons involved?

So, the homosexual goes down the street to the house of someone he "likes, " knocks on the door and says, "Hello Mrs. Smith, I'd like to date your son Bruce, and take him to the school dance." Yes, that sounds like that happens every day for homosexuals across the world....

 

[IzzyPop]

So, the homosexual goes down the street to the house of someone he "likes, " knocks on the door and says, "Hello Mrs. Smith, I'd like to date your son Bruce, and take him to the school dance." Yes, that sounds like that happens every day for homosexuals across the world....

That sounds like an awkward way to get someone into the sack, but if it works for you...

 

[LittleNipper]

Really? But I liked smoking the first time I had a cigarette. What does that say about your hypothesis? Once again, your analogy fails. Homosexuality harms no one. Smoking and shooting does.

It says you have at least two habits with serious consequences. I do hope you quit smoking, but I imagine that you cannot do that either...

 

[RealityCheck]

So, the homosexual goes down the street to the house of someone he "likes, " knocks on the door and says, "Hello Mrs. Smith, I'd like to date your son Bruce, and take him to the school dance." Yes, that sounds like that happens every day for homosexuals across the world....

You imagine this happens in the hetero realm? What era are you in, 1949?

 

[LittleNipper]

That sounds like an awkward way to get someone into the sack, but if it works for you...

So homosexuality is all about getting people in the sack? Heterosexuality can be about marriage and having children and establishing a family.

 

[TheManeki]

It is kind of like smoking. The first time is is revolting but if you think that you are being a rebel, or getting one over , or fitting in, you try it again. The next time is not so difficult. By the third it begins to become second nature. The same as shooting the enemy. The first time someone shoots another, he throws up. The next time is always easier. And all the excuses begin to make convenient sense. Once the abuse of sex, durgs, eating begins; to stop, is almost impossible ---- especially without help. AND, if all the "help" only confirms that what you are doing is OKAY, well ----- need I say more?

LittleNipper,

To make this analogy persuasive, you first have to show that homosexuality is analogous to...

* Smoking, where there is scientific evidence that it damages health
* Shooting, where there actual or attempted is injury/death done to a person
* Drug abuse/overeating, where again there is scientific evidence that it damages health (we'll leave marijuana out for now, as there is a debate over its harmfulness/harmlessness)

You also have to define "abuse of sex" better for us, to make sure we know what it means to you. This is especially important because you've already established that you have a different views on sex and sexuality than most of the others on this thread.

 

[IzzyPop]

It says you have at least two habits with serious consequences. I do hope you quit smoking, but I imagine that you cannot do that either...

I do not still smoke, but I do still miss it. I like the taste and the buzz. And what is the second habit with serious consequences?

 

[LittleNipper]

You imagine this happens in the hetero realm? What era are you in, 1949?

It happen among nice people who are trying to do what is best for the one they care about. I asked my future father-in-law, if I might marry his daughter. It was hardly 1949. We've been married 22 years.

 

[naotmaa]

It is kind of like smoking. The first time is is revolting but if you think that you are being a rebel, or getting one over , or fitting in, you try it again. The next time is not so difficult. By the third it begins to become second nature. The same as shooting the enemy. The first time someone shoots another, he throws up. The next time is always easier. And all the excuses begin to make convenient sense. Once the abuse of sex, durgs, eating begins; to stop, is almost impossible ---- especially without help. AND, if all the "help" only confirms that what you are doing is OKAY, well ----- need I say more?

I don't know many people who try to "fit in" by having sex with the same sex.

But anyways...I rellly really don't know any people who realized they were gay that way. Usually they know before hand. If someone just randomly decided to start having sex with the same sex and realized they liked it...well they're gay to begin with or bisexual. However if a straight person did this...chances are they no likey.

People don't become gay by having sex with the same sex. Its definitely not like smoking.

 

[LittleNipper]

LittleNipper,

To make this analogy persuasive, you first have to show that homosexuality is analogous to...

* Smoking, where there is scientific evidence that it damages health
* Shooting, where there actual or attempted is injury/death done to a person
* Drug abuse/overeating, where again there is scientific evidence that it damages health (we'll leave marijuana out for now, as there is a debate over its harmfulness/harmlessness)

You also have to define "abuse of sex" better for us, to make sure we know what it means to you. This is especially important because you've already established that you have a different views on sex and sexuality than most of the others on this thread.

So you don't you do just that, if you really are interested in the truth and not simply interested in protecting your own excuses?

 

[TheManeki]

So homosexuality is all about getting people in the sack? Heterosexuality can be about marriage and having children and establishing a family.

How do heterosexuals reproduce, in order to establish a family? They get in the sack! (Alternatively they adopt, use artificial insemination, etc, but LN -- he was patterning his response after your post, and calling him on it is rather disingenuous.)

 

[bricks00usa]

I don't know many people who try to "fit in" by having sex with the same sex.

But anyways...I rellly really don't know any people who realized they were gay that way. Usually they know before hand. If someone just randomly decided to start having sex with the same sex and realized they liked it...well they're gay to begin with or bisexual. However if a straight person did this...chances are they no likey.

People don't become gay by having sex with the same sex. Its definitely not like smoking.

I disagree. Gay sex was forced on me. It is my preference now after 6 years.

 

[TheManeki]

So you don't you dojust that, if you really are interested in the truth and not simply interested in protecting your own excuses?

If you want to convince us -- and you have yet to convince anyone participating in this thread to change sides -- you have to provide some real-world proof.

 

[naotmaa]

I disagree. Gay sex was forced on me. It is my preference now after 6 years.

Ok. Sorry to hear that. But still all the people I know realized they were gay (including myself) before they had sex.

 

[IzzyPop]

So homosexuality is all about getting people in the sack? Heterosexuality can be about marriage and having children and establishing a family.

The question was about how homosexuals get consent for sex. Nothing about marriage or starting a family. But since you bring it up, homosexual relationships can be about the same things.