Paula White, Juanita Bynum and the "New Wave' of Female Preachers

[WarEagle]

explain yourself.. what part of her doctrine is an "unbiblical trainwreck" ..

"God says, 'there are a lot of things that I wanna do, there are a lot of things that I desire to do. But, until you can anticipate with me and give me something in the earth in which I can operate. I can not!' The bible says in Psalm 78 that they limited the Holy One of Israel. God is looking for somebody to take the limitations off. You better get up and go to the phone and say, 'God, I believe you,' Your getting ready, I'm taking the limitations, your taking the handcuffs off."
(Paula White, Benny Hinn Telethon, LeSea Network, April 16, 2004)

First of all, anytime you say "God says", you'd better be able to back it up and show where in scripture He says it. Otherwise, you're making yourself a false prophet.

Second, where in the Bible does it say that God cannot do anything without our help? Is she really that arrogant?

"As a treasured Covenant Partner, you also share in the anointing and favor on Paula’s life as she keeps you under her Spiritual Covering by praying for you, your loved ones, and your needs on a daily basis." from the "Partner with Paula" page on the Paula White website. http://www.paulawhite.org/partnering.htm

I cannot find anywhere in the Bible where we have the ability to have a Spiritual Covering gift that we can use to cover others. There are 47 references to the word covering in the entire Bible and not one of them refer to the type of covering that Paula White mentions. This concerns me greatly as this type of teaching does more damage to her listeners than meets the eye.

One of the references in the Bible concerning the word "covering" was certainly not the "covering" Paula mentions. "Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:" Isaiah 30:1 KJV.

"And so the principle here is if I take for myself when it's time to give to the kingdom I can bring a curse on myself." "You will die! You will die unless you go to the phone and do what God says to do." "Don't just listen to the Word of the Lord, you got to do the Word of the Lord! You will die! You will die unless you go to the phone and do what God says to do."
(Paula White, Benny Hinn Telethon, LeSea Network, April 16, 2004)

So, let me get this straight: unless I give money to Benny Hinn, God will curse me and I'll die?

What scripture does she use to back that one up?

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Helv]"So, the instruction of the Lord is for the next 12 months to sow $66.12."
(Paula White, "Spring Praise-A-Thon," TBN, April 5, 2005)[/FONT]

"Instruction from the Lord"? I'm having a hard time finding such an instruction in my Bible.

In fact, it says just the opposite: "neither invite them into your home nor wish them godspeed."

"When I invest in Benny Hinn Media Ministries, when I invest in this ministry sacrificially then I have the right to place a demand on that anointing and to house it in my life."
(Paula White, "This Is Your Day," Benny Hinn Show," July 23, 2004)

"Place a demand" on what annointing? From who? Do you not understand that she's actually saying that by helping to buy Benny Hinn's latest mansion, that we have the right to demand an annointing from God?

These things are only the beginning.

And, when she calls herself "Dr. Paula White", where, exactly did she earn her PhD?

 

[WarEagle]

bump

 

[Dorothea]

Daedelaus is correct the Orthodox Church wrote and compiled the Bible we all love; this is not bias just historic fact.

Regarding women being preachers this is clearly unbiblical and against Holy Tradition, dating all the way back to Christ and beyond in Judaism. It's not that we look down on women, they just can't be in an authoritative postion over men. In our current age these restrictions based on gender seem unfair and are politically incorrect but the Church is not politically correct!

Women are highly esteemed though. We have many female saints who are beacons of light for both men and women. As a man I am more than willing to venerate the holiness of these amazing women of God.

Basil

 

[sunlover1]

How many of you heard of the new rising star of ministry, Paula White, who comes out of Florida?
She is a prominent pastor who speak in many conventions and her close freind in the gospel is Bishop T.D. Jakes, who is also her pastor.

Then we have Prophetess Juanita Byumn who is also prominent in christian circles who also preaches prosperity.

What do you think about the "new wave" of women preachers?

Hmm, I remember hearing and enjoying Paula when she first started getting around.
Juanita Bynum is pretty local for me.
In fact, I used to attend one of her brother's churches.
He did preach prosperity unfortunately.
Because when I entered his church, I thought i had
died and went to heaven... it was truly awesome.
But that's history. Don't follow Juanita's ministry though.
Joyce Meyers helps many, even though she has some
stuff maybe screwed up.
(DONT we all?? lol)

I'm now wondering if I missed the actual intent of the OP...

 

[ContentInHim]

sunlover - the OP is ancient!

As for the rising stars of female preachers - in the past couple of months soooo many problems have arisen like Paula's pending divorce. Use your discernment, believers!

 

[sunlover1]

sunlover - the OP is ancient!

As for the rising stars of female preachers - in the past couple of months soooo many problems have arisen like Paula's pending divorce. Use your discernment, believers!

Well looky who decided to bless us with her presence.

Oh don't worry bout me Content. Like I said, I attended
Juanita's bro's church and it was incredible, but then
he started sending mail about money money...
They sure do dress nice
And Paula White, I've seen her once MAYBE twice and
that was a while back too.

Youre right. Discernment is the key.

 

[WarEagle]

sunlover - the OP is ancient!

As for the rising stars of female preachers - in the past couple of months soooo many problems have arisen like Paula's pending divorce. Use your discernment, believers!

I agree. I think it's really interesting that none of White's supporters seem to want to go anywhere near the subject of her divorce from her husband on Unbibilical grounds.

If only they had the same passion for their marriage as they have for making money, their marriage would be the model for Christianity. Divorce does not just happen, it takes planning, pride, planning, lying, planning, time, planning, patience, planning, disregard for the Word of God, planning, and finally a break in their relationship with God. Restoration takes repentance, repentance, repentance, not excuses or justification for their divorce or the sins leading up to it.

If the Whites think that a "call" into ministry, regardless of the office they serve in, comes before the vows of marriage they are WRONG! There are only 2 vows that are required by the Lord: #1 - a vow to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior; and #2 - a vow in marriage. There is nothing that comes before these vows. Ecclesiastes 5:4 says, do not make a vow to God and break it; do not say that you made a mistake (paraphrased).

I guarantee you that their church will not attempt to discipline them in any way. In fact, Rick White has already said that he's just going to leave that church and start another one.

Truly, it reminds me of Romans 2:23-24. While they're claiming to follow the word of God, they're not following it at all and the name of the Lord is blasphemed among the unsaved because of it.

Now you watch what happens. Not one of their followers will acknowledge that they've done anything wrong, but I'll guarantee you half of them in this post will start calling me names for pointing it out.

 

[ContentInHim]

Oh, WarEagle - you are soooo right!

I watched Paula occasionally, but her call for money so I could get blessed (like I'm not already?), holy (like I'm not without her blessing?), blah blah blah sent me running. What she had to offer believers wasn't a whole lot.

I don't know that much about her husband. But WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? Also, someone I respected said that God was doing a new work in Randy. Well, what about when God says "I hate divorce"?

 

[spiritwarrior37]

I will tell you what I think. I think some churches avoid quoting 1 Tim 3:1-2 in speaking against women as bishops for fear they may also have to include unmarried men in their exclusion. However both are excluded for a reason and it has nothing to do with gender it has to do with responsibility and character.

I think you need to go back and read more efficiently. Paul, the very man you quote was not married. He actually said it was better for a man to be single as he was. And the husband of one wife means just that. Many at that time had more than one wife. Today many translate it as being married more than once. That verse does not say that a single man cannot be a pastor or deacon or bishop.

 

[spiritwarrior37]

Tes, I know about these mentions of Jesus having brothers, but the word that was translated in English as brother can also mean cousin. Also, Joseph had children from a previous marriage, which may explain these as well.

Mary was much younger and Joseph was chosen to protect her.

Where in scripture does it say that Joseph had been married before. If GOd hates divorce so much, why would He send a divorced man to marry the mother of God? Or maybe he was widowed. If it's not in scripture, I dont place any value in it.

 

[Thekla]

Where in scripture does it say that Joseph had been married before. If GOd hates divorce so much, why would He send a divorced man to marry the mother of God? Or maybe he was widowed. If it's not in scripture, I dont place any value in it.

(Joseph was a widower)

 

[TraderJack]

How many of you heard of the new rising star of ministry, Paula White, who comes out of Florida?
She is a prominent pastor who speak in many conventions and her close freind in the gospel is Bishop T.D. Jakes, who is also her pastor.

Then we have Prophetess Juanita Byumn who is also prominent in christian circles who also preaches prosperity.

What do you think about the "new wave" of women preachers?

What I think of those two female pastors is that they are part of a counterfeit church, apostates and false teachers.

 

[spiritwarrior37]

(Joseph was a widower)

Give me chapter and verse. Out of the Bible, not historical documents.

 

[Thekla]

Give me chapter and verse. Out of the Bible, not historical documents.

as you know, there is no scriptural referent to provide

 

[justsurfing]

I think the "new wave" of female preachers is a "new wave" of the Spirit.

God is moving... and using both men and women... as He said He would.

Acts 2:17-18 (New International Version)

17" 'In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.

To "prophesy" includes to "speak (thus preach) the Word".

 

[justsurfing]

First of all, anytime you say "God says", you'd better be able to back it up and show where in scripture He says it. Otherwise, you're making yourself a false prophet.

Second, where in the Bible does it say that God cannot do anything without our help? Is she really that arrogant?

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I cannot find anywhere in the Bible where we have the ability to have a Spiritual Covering gift that we can use to cover others. There are 47 references to the word covering in the entire Bible and not one of them refer to the type of covering that Paula White mentions. This concerns me greatly as this type of teaching does more damage to her listeners than meets the eye.

One of the references in the Bible concerning the word "covering" was certainly not the "covering" Paula mentions. "Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:" Isaiah 30:1 KJV.



So, let me get this straight: unless I give money to Benny Hinn, God will curse me and I'll die?

What scripture does she use to back that one up?



"Instruction from the Lord"? I'm having a hard time finding such an instruction in my Bible.

In fact, it says just the opposite: "neither invite them into your home nor wish them godspeed."



"Place a demand" on what annointing? From who? Do you not understand that she's actually saying that by helping to buy Benny Hinn's latest mansion, that we have the right to demand an annointing from God?

These things are only the beginning.

And, when she calls herself "Dr. Paula White", where, exactly did she earn her PhD?

OK... personally, I believe there is a lot of wrong teaching "out there" in varying circles.

But that does not mean God is not true to His Word in pouring out His Spirit on men and women and using them.

I do not believe everything people say. I don't like to particularly focus on a person and criticize the person, however.

God bless,

js

 

[ContentInHim]

I think you need to go back and read more efficiently. Paul, the very man you quote was not married. He actually said it was better for a man to be single as he was. And the husband of one wife means just that. Many at that time had more than one wife. Today many translate it as being married more than once. That verse does not say that a single man cannot be a pastor or deacon or bishop.

There are many who believe that Paul was a widower. He was certainly past the age when a Pharisee should have been married. And he particularly said that those who lost a spouse to death should stay unmarried if they were able to without sinning. Makes more sense historically.

 

[Theophorus]

How many of you heard of the new rising star of ministry, Paula White, who comes out of Florida?
She is a prominent pastor who speak in many conventions and her close freind in the gospel is Bishop T.D. Jakes, who is also her pastor.

Then we have Prophetess Juanita Byumn who is also prominent in christian circles who also preaches prosperity.

What do you think about the "new wave" of women preachers?

Paula White

is a preacher, life coach, author, motivational speaker, and former senior pastor of Without Walls International Church in Tampa, Florida. She and her husband, Randy White, have announced on August 23, 2007 that they will divorce. Randy White will continue as head pastor of Without Walls International Church. Paula White will continue work in her for-profit and non-profit entities, including Paula White Enterprises, and PWM Life Center, and Paula White Ministries[1] which currently has a presence in New York, Tampa, and San Antonio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_White

Bishop Thomas Weeks III and nationally known "prophetess" Juanita Bynum were married in a lavish, million-dollar televised wedding at a hotel on Wall Street in 2002. They had 80 people in their wedding party and 900 guests.
Just six months into their marriage they began hosting a marriage series and were fast becoming one of the most influential black Christian couples in the U.S.
Bynum's loud and aggressive "bulldog" preaching style combined with the mentorship of Bishop T.D. Jakes catapulted her into stardom. In 1999, she addressed a crowd of 80,000 women at Jakes' "Woman, Thou Art Loosed" Conference.

Juanita Bynum and Bishop Thomas Weeks III wed.
But something happened to Juanita Bynum's fairytale. The golden couple split up. Then the dream became a nightmare.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57724


Bishop???

 

[WarEagle]

OK... personally, I believe there is a lot of wrong teaching "out there" in varying circles.

But that does not mean God is not true to His Word in pouring out His Spirit on men and women and using them.

If God pours His spirit out on them to use them, He's not going to have them preach a false Gospel.

I still want to know why she is calling herself "Dr." Paula White.

I do not believe everything people say. I don't like to particularly focus on a person and criticize the person, however.

You might not like it but if the person is publically preaching a false doctrine, then we have to look at what they're saying and stand up against it.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

We should be on guard always, by male or female pastor/preacher. It's hard to accept that women can't do this or can't do that due to the culture I was raised in. I think saying they cannot is ousting half the population in serving God. (Then again we're talking about pastors here..) I don't have a strong view on it.
I'm more interested in spiritual prosperity btw.