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theitguy
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Uh, ok. Let me give you this. Ponder it and let me know what you think...If you were walking through a grassy field where, for as far as your eye could see was nothing but hills and grass. You peak one hill and see on the other side a grandfather clock; all its cogs, chains, intricate wood work, chimes, and ability to consistently move at a steady pace. How did it get there?
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I could not know for certain, but I would assume some force or another had placed the grandfather clock atop this hill.
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Unforseen circumstances, like the last episodes of the Sopranos, a spur-of-the-moment move, and a girlfriend. I hope you understand.Why did you bail on our Mage game?
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Antihero202
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What particular event in your life caused you so much pain that mentally you said "If there was a God, He sure isn't looking out for me right now." I believe that's where the majority of us teens begin the descent.
Also, as their is no clear explanation for our origins, how do you reconcile that with your atheistic stance? I myself am an agnostic since I don't believe it's possible to know either way. This universe does, however, operate in ways that the physical has yet to explain (maybe one day? who knows? That's why I like to keep my options open)
How did your family react to your new views?
Would you consider your new atheist stance as one that was based on emotion or logic?
Also, as their is no clear explanation for our origins, how do you reconcile that with your atheistic stance? I myself am an agnostic since I don't believe it's possible to know either way. This universe does, however, operate in ways that the physical has yet to explain (maybe one day? who knows? That's why I like to keep my options open)
How did your family react to your new views?
Would you consider your new atheist stance as one that was based on emotion or logic?
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Actually, my doubts did not stem from any sort of emotional pain: I simply decided, after all my years of blind belief, that it was time I applied the same scrutiny to my faith as everything else. Obviously, I came away eventually with the conclusion that there is no god at all.
I don't see anything wrong with a little mystery. I like to believe that the day will come when we will have all the answers. In the meantime, we should not allow such questions to bother us.
I have not told them yet.
Logic.
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That's your reasoning? I am supposed to believe in god simply because the alternative is boring?
What reason do I have to believe in something that is unseen?
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theitguy
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No, you took that out of context and you know it, I gave you other reasons to which you responded...you know, faith.
Well, I can see why you have an issue with that. I guess first you'd have to believe that God is real, that He did create the heavens and the Earth, and that He created you and me from His own image out of love to have a relationship with us. If you don't believe that, then what do you believe your purpose to be?
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Fair enough. I apologize.
Why, though? I'm looking for a reason I should believe in something like that. What am I basing this belief on?
There is no "purpose." Life has no inherent meaning.
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