• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Attack of the Creationists [a plea for help]

Valkhorn

the Antifloccinaucinihilipili ficationist
Jun 15, 2004
3,009
198
44
Knoxville, TN
Visit site
✟26,624.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
My city of Hattiesburg has a local forum which I had lurked in for quite some time. I noticed though the other day a thread about Evolution and it not being taught much in Mississippi (no surprise there) and sure enough by page 2 or 3 some people had chimed in with the usual arguments against Evolution - and none of them were true or scientific.

http://tinyurl.com/2nsj4x
(it won't take the actual URL)

So I began to post...
... and post
...... and post

And I eventually posted post after post, trying to counter all of the bogus claims that were coming at me left and right. "Evolution is a religion" to the left of me. "Evolutionists have a priori assumptions" to the right of me. "Mount Rushmore didn't come together by random chance" right down the middle.

So naturally I began to get a little flustered and upset and I believe it showed in my posts. And of course I got to the point where no one was providing any scientific evidence and the best people could come up with was an argument against Evolution by Dilbert, that I hadn't read my Bible, that Evolution couldn't exist with Religion.

And so I naturally threw my hands into the air and said "I quit". No one was providing any real evidence. No one was providing any valid arguments, and I simply didn't have the energy left to fight this. I came back a day later but was quickly swarmed by ignorance.

I even offered up the chance for a formal written debate (or even one in public) and no one has taken me up on the offer.

So my question is this - in my posts, did I overreact? In my posts, did I do a decent job of at least trying to show how Evolution is a valid scientific theory?

Also, do you have any suggestions? I really can't fight this alone and since no one is really there to really help me I haven't much of a chance to defend science in my home town. I don't ask you guys to post there (but if you did I won't hold you back) but I just want to make sure I did all I could to try to talk some sense into people.

It's just so depressing when ignorance outnumbers you.
 

Valkhorn

the Antifloccinaucinihilipili ficationist
Jun 15, 2004
3,009
198
44
Knoxville, TN
Visit site
✟26,624.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Well this Zorro chick is a complete imbecile. And she seems to have a whole crew rallying around her and acting as if she is some sort of goddess.
So I didn't imagine things. Advice? I'm thinking about folding but I just can't go back in there alone.
 
Upvote 0

Valkhorn

the Antifloccinaucinihilipili ficationist
Jun 15, 2004
3,009
198
44
Knoxville, TN
Visit site
✟26,624.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
No, you didn't overreact but I certainly can understand your frustration. Sometimes there is an immovable mountain of STUPID that you're never gonna move. I think you just came up against a whole range!

Haha got that right. It saps so much energy.

I should also point out that the owner moves any thread related to Atheism to a non religious forum, but left one about Evolution in a religious forum.
 
Upvote 0

Valkhorn

the Antifloccinaucinihilipili ficationist
Jun 15, 2004
3,009
198
44
Knoxville, TN
Visit site
✟26,624.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
As for you being "flustered", dont worry about it. It is a typical ignorant persons defense when they are pushed up against the wall. They pretend as if they are remaining calm, cool and collected and you are becoming this crazed maniac, just ignore it.

Yeah. I don't plan on staying in Hattiesburg much longer but I am pretty tired of facing the mountain of Stupid.
 
Upvote 0

Valkhorn

the Antifloccinaucinihilipili ficationist
Jun 15, 2004
3,009
198
44
Knoxville, TN
Visit site
✟26,624.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Challenge her/him/it to come here. I want a piece of her/him/it.

I did. They refuse to. All of them.

I begged them to come here and to debate - they wouldn't. I actually told them that they'd get their butts handed to them on a silver platter here but they don't want to rise up to the challenge.

And I tell you one thing, I SO wanted to do a formal written debate against every one of them or even something in public, but it doesn't seem they want to rise to the challenge.

If you're willing to team up with me (and maybe a couple others?) we could run the gambit but it's up to you. I have to get some energy before I charge.
 
Upvote 0