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Evolution vs. Creation: The Great Debate

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I see the second law of thermodynamics come up again and again in creationist arguments. The second law states that entropy increases over time in an ISOLATED SYSTEM, meaning it does not receive or release mass or energy into its surroundings. However, there's that one, big, very hot ball of hydrogen-hydrogen fusion sending quite a fair amount of energy into Earth's atmosphere.
 
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I see the second law of thermodynamics come up again and again in creationist arguments. The second law states that entropy increases over time in an ISOLATED SYSTEM, meaning it does not receive or release mass or energy into its surroundings. However, there's that one, big, very hot ball of hydrogen-hydrogen fusion sending quite a fair amount of energy into Earth's atmosphere.

LIAR! I've been searching the skies for that mythical ball of fusion, but the Sun keeps getting in my eyes!
 
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Instead of simply posting web pages or book references,or unconfirmable miracles, and expect people to waste time over pages which can all be refuted by visiting talkorigins, or reading science text books, why don't you pick out one Creationist argument which you particularly like, study it as fully as you wish, and post and debate that particular point.

It would leave your threads with a single focus rather than shooting off in thirty directions at once and turning into instant train wrecks.

You seem to be chucking as much stuff at the wall as you can in the vain hope that some of it will stick. Debate dpoes not work that way.

Just a thought.

Norm
 
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Instead of simply posting web pages or book references,or unconfirmable miracles, and expect people to waste time over pages which can all be refuted by visiting talkorigins, or reading science text books, why don't you pick out one Creationist argument which you particularly like, study it as fully as you wish, and post and debate that particular point.

It would leave your threads with a single focus rather than shooting off in thirty directions at once and turning into instant train wrecks.

You seem to be chucking as much stuff at the wall as you can in the vain hope that some of it will stick. Debate dpoes not work that way.

Just a thought.

Norm
I am not debating I am asking for info, I apologize I will be more specific.
 
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Okay this is the Great debate? Then allow me to start it off. : )

Why do evolutionist have to go to Collage for about 8 to 12 years to study evolution but when it comes to the Bible all you need is a dunk in the water?

Because creation is a story that you can read in 15 minutes and evolution is a complex scientific venture.
 
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Okay this is the Great debate? Then allow me to start it off. : )

Why do evolutionist have to go to Collage for about 8 to 12 years to study evolution but when it comes to the Bible all you need is a dunk in the water?

Evolutionists have to go through the various satanic rituals. These take time. Then they must prick their finger and sign on the line. That's harder than it seems. Remember, you finger isn't really a "writing instrument".

This is followed by eating kittens. LOTS of kittens. You must profess your lack of belief in God and swear upon the holy books of Thelema.

Then there's several days of orgy followed by a quick trip to McDonalds for a shake.

In between all this you have to attend classes, conduct experiments, learn the dark arts of "data analysis", eat more kittens, and finally the graduation takes a long time to complete.

Sometimes it really makes you wonder why you started, but of course, like most urban street gangs, once you enter "college" you are not allowed to leave without being "jumped out". Most people don't want to go through that.

Hope that helps!
 
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Evolutionists have to go through the various satanic rituals. These take time. Then they must prick their finger and sign on the line. That's harder than it seems. Remember, you finger isn't really a "writing instrument".

This is followed by eating kittens. LOTS of kittens. You must profess your lack of belief in God and swear upon the holy books of Thelema.

Then there's several days of orgy followed by a quick trip to McDonalds for a shake.

In between all this you have to attend classes, conduct experiments, learn the dark arts of "data analysis", eat more kittens, and finally the graduation takes a long time to complete.

Sometimes it really makes you wonder why you started, but of course, like most urban street gangs, once you enter "college" you are not allowed to leave without being "jumped out". Most people don't want to go through that.

Hope that helps!


Stop saying that, too much truth is a bad thing sometimes.
 
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Okay this is the Great debate? Then allow me to start it off. : )

Why do evolutionist have to go to Collage for about 8 to 12 years to study evolution but when it comes to the Bible all you need is a dunk in the water?
Now that's a keeper! :thumbsup:
 
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