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HOW Does One Keep the Sabbath?

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What is it, rest or be in church?

Can't do both.
They couldn't even travel from
their home on the Sabbath,
at least not far enough to get to
a church (if I remember right)

How do we keep the Sabbath,
according to the Bible naturally.

thanks in advance,
sunlover
 

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Is there a "day of the week" reference anywhere that can solidify that Saturday is really Saturday and Sunday is really Sunday? Why is Sunday referred to as part of the "weekend" but listed on the calendar as the beginning of a week? How are we to know that Saturday is really Saturday. The calendars have changed (Julian/Gregorian) and also we have Daylight Savings Time initiated.

My fiance's family is 7th Day Adventist and this is one topic that came up in one of their Sabbath services when I was visiting his grandparents and that's what brought me to the thought about the calendar/time.

Regardless, we should keep God first and honor him.
 
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Is there a "day of the week" reference anywhere that can solidify that Saturday is really Saturday and Sunday is really Sunday? ...

The weekly cycle has never changed. In brief, the week has come down from Creation unchanged. The Sabbath, given at the beginning of our world and written on rock 2,500 years later, was kept by the people of God down through the ages. The seventh day of Jesus is to be our day, for He is Lord of it (Mark 2:28).

At the time that Christ was on earth, the calendar being used was called the "Julian Calendar." This is the calendar under which Jesus kept the Bible Sabbath. His followers kept it after His death (Luke 23:56), and later in their missionary work (Acts 13:14-16, 40-46, 16:12-1 5, 17:1-4.

We know, from historical records, that many Christians kept the true Sabbath for the first five centuries after the time of Christ. After that a persecuted minority continued to keep it during the centuries which followed. All during this time, the Julian Calendar continued in effect—and multiplied millions of historical and business records over those years witness to the fact. Then, in 1582, an error in the length of the year was corrected. The Julian Calendar was 365.25 solar days long, but the length of the year is actually slightly different—365.242195 days in length. Because of this discrepancy, as the centuries passed, the seasons shifted. This shift amount to ten days by A.D. 1582, and so the "Gregorian Calendar" was initiated to remedy the problem. It corrected the ten-day error and also began our leap-year cycle. Here is the calendar when the change came:
OCTOBER 1582
— 1 2 3 4 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31 — — — — — —
Carefully observe that the week was not changed! only the length of that month and year. The week had always been seven days in length. That weekly cycle did not change.

Spain, Portugal, and Italy adopted the new calendar at once. France waited until December of that year. Half of Germany adopted it in 1583; the other half waited until 1700. About that time the Netherlands, Sweden, and Denmark adopted the new calendar also. England did not accept it until 1752. Yet all through those years, when it was Saturday in Spain it was Saturday in England. The NUMBERS or DATES of the month were different, but the DAYS of the week remained the same.

Astronomers tell us that there has never been any change in the weekly cycle. Historians tell us the same thing. The most learned reference books and encyclopedias in the world agree with this. The week has never changed. The unchangable nature of the Sabbath is even proven by the languages of mankind. Dr. William Mead Jones of London, England, analyzed 160 ancient and modern languages—and found that 108 of them call the seventh day of the week the "Sabbath." This is three out of five of the known languages of mankind!

But do not forget the Jew: Nearly every ancient race of mankind has been obliterated through warfare and intermarriage, except the Hebrew race. God has preserved them alive as a living testimony of the truth of the Bible and the Bible Sabbath,—the seventh-day Sabbath. For ages the Jewish race has kept the Bible Sabbath. And what day is the Bible Sabbath? Ask any Jew. He will tell you it is the seventh day of the week. (Friday sunset till Saturday sunset)
 
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Well...
Joshua 10:12-13


Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.


And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
 
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Joshua 10:12-13


Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.


And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
This never threw the Jews off. God never corrected an error in their observance of the seventh day. Jesus came after Joshua. We know what day He kept.
 
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Is there a "day of the week" reference anywhere that can solidify that Saturday is really Saturday and Sunday is really Sunday? Why is Sunday referred to as part of the "weekend" but listed on the calendar as the beginning of a week? How are we to know that Saturday is really Saturday. The calendars have changed (Julian/Gregorian) and also we have Daylight Savings Time initiated.

My fiance's family is 7th Day Adventist and this is one topic that came up in one of their Sabbath services when I was visiting his grandparents and that's what brought me to the thought about the calendar/time.

Regardless, we should keep God first and honor him.
I have another thread on which day
is the actual Sabbath.
This one was about what it means
to observe the Sabbath.

Thank you for your post
sunlover
 
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My point is how do we know which day of the week is the 7th day.

Your Neighbor: Carefully observe that the week was not changed! only the length of that month and year. The week had always been seven days in length. That weekly cycle did not change.

Thanks :)
 
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My point is how do we know which day of the week is the 7th day.

Your Neighbor: Carefully observe that the week was not changed! only the length of that month and year. The week had always been seven days in length. That weekly cycle did not change.

Thanks :)
In order to lose track of the Sabbath, one would have to assume that EVERY Jew EVERYWHERE simultaneously forgot when the Sabbath was.
 
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What is it, rest or be in church?

Can't do both.
They couldn't even travel from
their home on the Sabbath,
at least not far enough to get to
a church (if I remember right)

How do we keep the Sabbath,
according to the Bible naturally.

thanks in advance,
sunlover
What does the Torah say?

No cooking
No lighting fires
No work
Rest
Congregate (Israel was commanded to have a convoctation on the Sabbath. This necessitated going out of their homes to the Tabernacle.)
 
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Is there a "day of the week" reference anywhere that can solidify that Saturday is really Saturday and Sunday is really Sunday? Why is Sunday referred to as part of the "weekend" but listed on the calendar as the beginning of a week? How are we to know that Saturday is really Saturday. The calendars have changed (Julian/Gregorian) and also we have Daylight Savings Time initiated.

My fiance's family is 7th Day Adventist and this is one topic that came up in one of their Sabbath services when I was visiting his grandparents and that's what brought me to the thought about the calendar/time.

Regardless, we should keep God first and honor him.

What day of the week Saturday and Sunday are depends on where you live. For instance, in Norway, Sunday is the seventh day of the week, as I believe is true in at least much of Europe if not all.

In international standard ISO-8601 the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) has decreed that Monday shall be the first day of the week.

The Russian name for Tuesday means "Second".

On the other hand, under Jewish and Christian tradition, Saturday is the seventh day, and Sunday the first.

It's only a problem of course if one desires to live a life of law keeping. In which case, they, just as the Jews will never receive rest.

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What day of the week Saturday and Sunday are depends on where you live. For instance, in Norway, Sunday is the seventh day of the week, as I believe is true in at least much of Europe if not all.

In international standard ISO-8601 the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) has decreed that Monday shall be the first day of the week.

The Russian name for Tuesday means "Second".

On the other hand, under Jewish and Christian tradition, Saturday is the seventh day, and Sunday the first.

It's only a problem of course if one desires to live a life of law keeping. In which case, they, just as the Jews will never receive rest.

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Isa 56:1 (KJV) Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed. 2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil. 3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree. 4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; 5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off. 6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant 7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

Psa 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. 8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. 9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether. 10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. 11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

Sounds pretty good to me!
 
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According to the Heidelberg Catechism:

Question 103. What does God require in the fourth commandment?
Answer: First, that the ministry of the gospel and the schools be maintained; and that I, especially on the sabbath, that is, on the day of rest, diligently frequent the church of God, to hear his word, to use the sacraments, publicly to call upon the Lord, and contribute to the relief of the poor. Secondly, that all the days of my life I cease from my evil works, and yield myself to the Lord, to work by his Holy Spirit in me: and thus begin in this life the eternal sabbath.
 
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I celebrate Friday night to Saturday night like my Jewish friends do. I've done so for the past ten years and it is SO special. We light candles, have flowers on the table, have a nice meal.
Also I don't use the computer (ow!! ;) ) or watch t.v., I don't talk on the phone or listen to the radio. I don't go shopping--one of the most important elements in coming apart with God from the world, I find. I try to keep my mind centered on the Lord and how good it is to be in His house and to worship Him.

I personally don't think a gentile person "has" to do it Fri to Sat, though there are different opinions than mine on that--just that it needs to be every seven days, and as complete a rest as you can make it. It truly does restore your soul.
 
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According to the Heidelberg Catechism:

Question 103. What does God require in the fourth commandment?
Answer: First, that the ministry of the gospel and the schools be maintained; and that I, especially on the sabbath, that is, on the day of rest, diligently frequent the church of God, to hear his word, to use the sacraments, publicly to call upon the Lord, and contribute to the relief of the poor. Secondly, that all the days of my life I cease from my evil works, and yield myself to the Lord, to work by his Holy Spirit in me: and thus begin in this life the eternal sabbath.
That's cool.
That reminds me of my Calvinist friend
She used to get mad when her husband
would study the Bible rather than that
Catechism you quoted.

I never could understand that, I thought
she might consider it a blessing that He
was reading the Word.
But I'm sure she had her reasons.


I was looking for something from
the Word too.
Sort of like a Bible study.

Thanks Paleo.
sunlover
 
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The keeping of the Sabbath for Christians has nothing to do with the day of the week. It has to do with resting from our works when we receive Jesus as our Lord and Savior. We must enter that rest.

To say you enterred that rest and then to go to the law to say it is Saturday or Sunday or any other day or every seventh day is to deny the work of Christ and go back to our own works.

Read Hebrews, Jesus is our Sabbath, not a day of the week. The Jewish, seventh day Sabbath was simply a shadow of the real Sabbath.

You claim to be refreshed by only have one day in seven be a Sabbath. Think how much superior it is to have every day be a Sabbath.

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Theoretically, every day can be a day when our hearts rest in the Lord, yes. But we can't physically rest every day.

But God also knows that we are physical beings and that we can telegraph spiritual realities to our hearts by bringing our bodies into the picture.....if you rest at least one day out of seven, it re-attunes you to the whole reality of rest.
 
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