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In my biology class we had to read Jurassic Park and while reading it a question hit me.

"Why aren't the dinosaurs mentioned at all in the Bible?"

Dinosaurs I know had to have been here on earth at some point but I do know that the dates are wrong. I'm sure they weren't mention in the Bible because they were not of great importantence but they seem to be a huge part of science and a huge part of the past.

I know some questions like "When did the dinosaurs really walk the earth and what time period?" can't be answered but I have some other questions that hopefully someone can answer for me or give me their veiws.

Were the dinosarus alone? Did humans actually physically interact with them? Is it possible they didn't even exsist?
 

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Because scientists came up with the words "dinosaurs" and other names. The Bible doesn't mention them by name but they would have been included in Genesis 1:24, "And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." Many of them died at the time of the great flood.
 
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Because scientists came up with the words "dinosaurs" and other names. The Bible doesn't mention them by name but they would have been included in Genesis 1:24, "And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." Many of them died at the time of the great flood.
What about the time frame of Dinosaurs tho?
 
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In my biology class we had to read Jurassic Park and while reading it a question hit me.

"Why aren't the dinosaurs mentioned at all in the Bible?"

Most of the animals that exist today are not specifically mentioned in the Bible. While I disagree with Jim on the timeframe his answer as to why they are not "mentioned," as it were, is correct in my view.
 
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This is an excellent question, sara. It's good that you are questioning the science behind what you've heard at school versus what you've learned at church. Ask God to teach you more on the subject, and be open to what He has to say.

I can tell you that there are a lot of people out there that believe that dinosaurs did coexist with man, and these people are typically known as young-earth creationists. Central to their beliefs (and I happen to subscribe to this theory as well) is that God created everything approximately 6000 years ago, as opposed to the billions and billions of years that we've all heard (and still hear). You see, people that believe in evolution need that amount of time before their theory holds water. When it comes right down to it, their beliefs are a faith as much as ours are.

For some interesting reading, the Bible does make a few references to creatures which some say MIGHT be dinosaurs. Job 41 is one of those passages. It doesn't specifically call them dinosaurs like we do. But consider this, some lizards never stop growing as long as they are not eaten by predators or die of other means. Now if you couple that with the fact that we believe as Christians that nothing ate meat before the flood (including prehistoric lizards which we now call dinosaurs), it makes for some pretty interesting possibilities. Evolutionists will say all this is a fairy tale, but is it really any more so than their belief that slime grew legs and began to walk one day?

Keep seeking God on questions like these. He'll point you in the right direction...
 
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I know some questions like "When did the dinosaurs really walk the earth and what time period?" can't be answered but I have some other questions that hopefully someone can answer for me or give me their veiws.

Yes, this question can be answered.

Dinosaurs walked the earth during the Mesozoic period which occurred between 245 mya and 65 mya.

Only young-earth creationists (a small but vociferous minority of Christians and a few fundamentalist Muslims and Jews) dispute the age of the earth and they have no scientific backing for this point of view at all. For that matter, they have almost no biblical backing for it either. Scripture is not at all clear on when the earth was created.

Were the dinosarus alone? Did humans actually physically interact with them? Is it possible they didn't even exsist?

Of course, the dinosaurs were not alone. Other creatures that existed at the time included bacteria, protists, algae, ferns and mosses and cycads in the plant kingdom (but no grasses or flowering plants until very late in the Mesozoic) many types of invertebrates such as shellfish and insects, many kinds of fish and amphibians, reptiles other than dinosaurs, (e.g. lizards and snakes, aquatic reptiles like mosasaurs and flying reptiles like pterosaurs and pterodactyls), small mammals like shrews and rodents (but not large mammals like bear or deer, whales or elephants), and, beginning near the middle of the Mesozoic, birds.

No, humans and dinosaurs did not co-exist as humans have only been around for about 2 million years while dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago.

Yes, dinosaurs did exist, as the fossilized bones and skeletons show. Otherwise, where did those museum exhibits come from?

Dinosaurs, by any name, are not mentioned in the bible because the people who wrote the bible were not familiar with them. For the same reason even extant animals they were not familiar with are not mentioned e.g. polar bears, kangaroos, penguins.

It is possible that they did find fossil dinosaur bones from time to time and tried to imagine what sort of creature they came from. This may be the origin of imaginary creatures such as dragons. In China, before the area was examined by scientists, peasants used to dig up fossil dinosaur bones and grind them into powder to be used in aphrodisiacs. They called them "dragon bones" too.
 
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No, humans and dinosaurs did not co-exist as humans have only been around for about 2 million years while dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago.
This concept contradicts Genesis and the earth is only about 10,000 years old.
 
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Most of us loved reading about dinosaurs at some time in our lives. In 1993, the movie “Jurassic Park” stimulated the public interest in dinosaurs far beyond its previous level. As a result, increasing numbers of people have thought, “Since we have found all these fossils and dinosaur bones, we know dinosaurs existed. How come they are not mentioned in the Bible?”
Actually, dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible, and we will prove it by doing the following three things:
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Examining the Bible’s text and the related scientific facts.
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Explaining the accuracy of the Bible.
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Exploring what we are taught in school and through the media.

The Bible’s Text

The Bible refers to many the common animals we know today. The list includes lions, wolves, bears, sheep, cattle and dogs along with various kinds of birds, rodents, reptiles, and insects. What is interesting is that this extensive list includes three animals that we no longer recognize. These three are (in the original Hebrew language) tanniyn, b@hemowth (yes, it’s spelled correctly—at least as close as we can get in Roman characters), and livyathan.
Although we alter the spelling of behemoth and Leviathan slightly, we still use those same words in bibles today. However, tanniyn is always translated into another word when we write it in English. Tanniyn occurs 28 times in the Bible and is normally translated “dragon.” It is also translated “serpent,” “sea monster,” “dinosaur,” “great creature,” and “reptile.” Behemoth and Leviathan are relatively specific creatures, perhaps each was a single kind of animal. Tanniyn is a more general term, and it can be thought of as the original version of the word “dinosaur.” The word “dinosaur” was originally coined in 1841, more than three thousand years after the Bible first referred to “Tanniyn.” To make things clearer, we constructed the following table comparing the scientific names with the Biblical names tanniyn, behemoth, and Leviathan.
“Dinosaur” Names, Then and NowName and date first written in the BibleScientific Name (best estimate) and date the name appearedtanniyn (dragon)before 1400 BCdinosaur1841 ADbehemothbefore 1400 BCbrachiosaurus1903 ADLeviathanbefore 1400 BCkronosaurus1901 ADHow we got these new names is interesting. In 1822, Mary Ann Mantell became the first person to discover and correctly identify a strange bone as part of a large, unknown reptile. Her husband, Dr. Gideon Mantell, later named this creature an “Iguanodon.” From that time forward, these forgotten animals were given names chosen by the people who rediscovered them. Of course, the Bible, written between approximately 1450 BC and 95 AD, does not include any of these names.
Reading the Bible carefully, you will realize that no living creature matches the descriptions of behemoth and Leviathan. However, if you grab your kid’s dinosaur book, you will notice several possible matches for each one. Let’s examine those.
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Behemoth has the following attributes according to Job 40:15-24

  • It “eats grass like an ox.”
  • It “moves his tail like a cedar.” (In Hebrew, this literally reads, “he lets hang his tail like a cedar.”)
  • Its “bones are like beams of bronze,
    His ribs like bars of iron.”
  • “He is the first of the ways of God.”
  • “He lies under the lotus trees,
    In a covert of reeds and marsh.”
Some bibles and study bibles will translate the word “behemoth” as “elephant” or “hippopotamus.” Others will put a note at the edge or bottom of the page, stating that behemoth was probably an elephant or a hippopotamus. Although an elephant or hippopotamus can eat grass (or lie in a covert of reeds and marsh), neither an elephant or a hippopotamus has a “tail like a cedar” (that is, a tail like a large, tapered tree trunk). In your kid’s dinosaur book you will find lots of animals that have “tails like a cedar.”
We would expect behemoth to be a large land animal whose bones are like beams of bronze and so forth, so whatever a behemoth is, it is large. A key phrase is “He is the first of the ways of God.” This phrase in the original Hebrew implied that behemoth was the biggest animal created. Although an elephant or a hippopotamus are big, they are less than one-tenth the size of a Brachiosaurus, the largest (complete) dinosaur ever discovered.[1] A Brachiosaurus could therefore easily be described as “the first of the ways of God.”
Comparing all this information to the description in your kid’s dinosaur book, you may come to the conclusion that “behemoth” is not a normal animal, it is a dinosaur—the brachiosaurus. We agree with that conclusion!
  1. Note: Some paleontologists have found fragmentary leg bones, ribs, or vertebrae which they propose belong to “new” sauropods larger than Brachiosaurus. Examples of these include Amphicoelias, Argentinasaurus, Sauroposeidon, Seismosaurus, Supersaurus and Ultrasaurus. There currently is not enough evidence to really determine the size of any of these, and some paleontologists believe that they are merely large examples of known dinosaurs like Brachiosaurus or Diplodocus. In any case, only the “modern scientific name” of behemoth would change. The point would still remain that behemoth refers to a dinosaur, not a “modern animal” like an elephant or hippopotamus.
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Leviathan has the following attributes according to Job chapter 41, Psalm 104:25,26 and Isaiah 27:1. This is only a partial listing—just enough to make the point.

  • “No one is so fierce that he would dare stir him up.”
  • “Who can open the doors of his face, with his terrible teeth all around?”
  • “His rows of scales are his pride, shut up tightly as with a seal; one is so near another that no air can come between them; they are joined one to another, they stick together and cannot be parted.”
  • “His sneezings flash forth light, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lights; sparks of fire shoot out. Smoke goes out of his nostrils, as from a boiling pot and burning rushes. His breath kindles coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth.”
  • “Though the sword reaches him, it cannot avail; nor does spear, dart, or javelin. He regards iron as straw, and bronze as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him flee; slingstones become like stubble to him. Darts are regarded as straw; he laughs at the threat of javelins.”
  • “On earth there is nothing like him, which is made without fear.”
  • Leviathan “played” in the “great and wide sea” (a paraphrase of Psalm 104 verses 25 and 26—get the exact sense by reading them yourself).
  • Leviathan is a “reptile [a] that is in the sea.” (Isaiah 27:1) [a] Note: The word translated “reptile” here is the Hebrew word tanniyn. This shows that “Leviathan” was also a “tanniyn” (dragon).
Unlike behemoth, who is huge, Leviathan is ferocious and terrifying. Many references (we have not listed them all) refer to the sea, so Leviathan is probably a sea creature. Although some bibles refer to Leviathan as an alligator or crocodile (and both of these are fierce) neither of these is a sea creature. They like the water, but they spend much of their time on land. Further, the question “Who can open the doors of his face. . . .” implies that nobody can open Leviathan’s jaws. Although an alligator's jaws cannot normally be forced open, a punch to their sensitive snout or poke in eye might startle them enough to release their grip.[2] Although this is a good description of an alligator characteristic, it does not fit perfectly with the description of Leviathan, which in the context of the Bible was supposed to describe an essentially impossible event, and we are not done yet.
The description of the scales is interesting. Several verses describe these great scales. Compared to Leviathan’s armor, iron is like straw and arrows ca not make it flee. Let’s face it, an arrow can do a lot of damage to a crocodile or alligator. This is not a description of either of them—or any living animal we are aware of.
And now for the key ingredient: fire. It is hard to read Job 41:18-21 without realizing the Bible is telling us that Leviathan breathes fire. That alone will eliminate almost every living animal. Yes, there is one animal like that in today’s world. It is called a bombardier beetle. This beetle is a native of Central America, and has a nozzle in its hind end that acts like a little flame thrower. It sprays a high-temperature jet of gas (fueled by hydroquinones and hydrogen peroxide with oxidative enzymes) for protection. Now, if a Central American beetle can do it, so could Leviathan. By the way, crocodiles and alligators are out of the picture on this one, don’t you agree?
Before we leave the topic of fire, there are two more notes you may find interesting:
  • The history of every culture is filled with stories of fire-breathing dragons. If you think about it, in all the past ages wouldn’t someone have made up a story of a fire-breathing lion or something? Nobody did because the dragon stories are based on truth, and only “dragons” breathed fire. It is easy to imagine Leviathan as a member of the dragon (tanniyn) family. (Plus, Isaiah 27:1 strongly implies this connection.)
  • Many fossil dinosaur skulls contain unexplained, empty passages. Scientists have not been able to guess the reason for these passages. Would it make sense that some dinosaurs used these passages as “gas tanks” for the combustible mixture used to “breathe fire?” We believe it does.
 
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This concept contradicts Genesis and the earth is only about 10,000 years old.

Do you doubt that God created the earth and all things in it? Do you doubt that God made all things by his Word?

What is factual in nature is of God and cannot be ignored.

The concept does not contradict Genesis. It contradicts what you believe about Genesis. But your beliefs about Genesis are not necessarily correct.

The bible nowhere asserts the earth is only 10,000 years old, but God's creation provides much evidence that it is far older. I will believe God's creation, rooted as it is in God's Word, over the fallible human interpretations of scripture.
 
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The bible nowhere asserts the earth is only 10,000 years old, but God's creation provides much evidence that it is far older. I will believe God's creation, rooted as it is in God's Word, over the fallible human interpretations of scripture.
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Of course, this whole interpretation assumes that no imagination or hyperbole was used in describing the animals mentioned. Why should we assume the descriptions are detailed literal, even scientifically, accurate? Is a poet allowed no poetic license, just because the poem is in scripture?

It also (as usual) misinterprets "he moveth his tail like a cedar" as a description of the tail itself, instead of a description of the tail's motion. Behemoth's tail need not look like a cedar to move like a cedar.

There is also some ad hoc reasoning as in linking various spaces in the skulls of some dinosaurs with the possibility of breathing fire. Some scientists speculate they could have been resonating chambers used to enhance sound. Or they might have had a different function altogether. Nothing is certain here and so it is not "evidence" of anything except that these spaces existed.
 
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Do you doubt that God created the earth and all things in it? Do you doubt that God made all things by his Word?

What is factual in nature is of God and cannot be ignored.

The concept does not contradict Genesis. It contradicts what you believe about Genesis. But your beliefs about Genesis are not necessarily correct.

The bible nowhere asserts the earth is only 10,000 years old, but God's creation provides much evidence that it is far older. I will believe God's creation, rooted as it is in God's Word, over the fallible human interpretations of scripture.

I have studied this issue for many years and I am not . The comparison of time with God. A thousand years is like yesterday. It is like one day. One day is as a thousand years. God's perspective on time is not the same as ours. The Bible does not say one day is a thousand years to the Lord or a thousand years is one day. With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

I like this response from "MacArthur’s Questions and Answers" on the topic of "Creation"

Another site to read
There are a growing number of scientists who are concluding the earth is actually relatively young.
 
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Gluadys - all you have to do (and it's a really fun exercise) is to calculate from the ages given in the OT backward from the year of Jesus' birth. It's not that difficult and illustrates why Peter said with the Lord a thousand years is as a day and vv. What happens is that we are entering/about to enter the Sabbath millenium.

And I take the Bible seriously - I've staked my life on its veracity and God's desire to save us! :hug:
 
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