What is the age of the Earth?

[icedtea]

Was the earth not rotating?

 

[leothelioness]

Was the earth not rotating?

I reckon it wouldn't much matter whether or not it was rotating if there was no sun to make a sunrise or sunset.

 

[icedtea]

It is my belief. The bible says God rested on the 7th day. He didn't rest for 6 thousands of years?
Its a done deal and does not matter now, its my belief.

 

[UBERROGO]

My dad says he is older than dirt so <50.

 

[simplyg123]

No it is not impossible. There are many things we can and do know. You don't need to memorise the entire KJV to know the message.



True in one sense but incorrect in many others.




Yes we can. I'm sorry but you are just wrong on this.

Just like we can take a murdered corpse and approximate the time and manner of death. It's all science.

As I asked earlier - wy are you not asking for most prisoners to be immediately released from jail since they were convicted on evidence utlising the past?

so if the rate today for erosion, was 5 feet a year, it would be the same a billion years ago?

what if their was more current?

what if their was more water?

what if their was a drought?

you cant possibly sit there and say you know the exact weather conditions, for the last "4 billion years"

many elements could be different then what the numbers are based on

 

[Melethiel]

Moved to Origins Theology.

 

[CaliforniaJosiah]

It was here when I arrived.

Which was LONG before I did...





I think we can safely say the earth is more than 70 years old...

 

[simplyg123]

Which was LONG before I did...





I think we can safely say the earth is more than 70 years old...

ok its settled, the earth is atleat 70

 

[KerrMetric]

so if the rate today for erosion, was 5 feet a year, it would be the same a billion years ago?

what if their was more current?

what if their was more water?

what if their was a drought?

This is all moot. No one uses erosion as an absolute clock do they? No one dates the Earth using erosion.

you cant possibly sit there and say you know the exact weather conditions, for the last "4 billion years"

I haven't and you don't need this info anyway.

many elements could be different then what the numbers are based on

And most of them are not germane to the agae of the Earth. And many things are also known - things I don't think you have even thought of. We can also put constraints on many things. I just think you haven't thought about these things and that your knowledge base is insufficient in this area to really know what is what.

 

[simplyg123]

I just think you haven't thought about these things and that your knowledge base is insufficient in this area

First off, thanks for the insult, however, im not a scientist, i have what the rest of the world uses to get by, its common since, and the literature resources

by the way:


Biological material decays too fast.

Natural radioactivity, mutations, and decay degrade DNA and other biological material rapidly. Measurements of the mutation rate of mitochondrial DNA recently forced researchers to revise the age of &#8220;mitochondrial Eve&#8221; from a theorized 200,000 years down to possibly as low as 6,000 years.17 DNA experts insist that DNA cannot exist in natural environments longer than 10,000 years, yet intact strands of DNA appear to have been recovered from fossils allegedly much older: Neandertal bones, insects in amber, and even from dinosaur fossils.18 Bacteria allegedly 250 million years old apparently have been revived with no DNA damage.19 Soft tissue and blood cells from a dinosaur have astonished experts.20

 

[simplyg123]

Fossil radioactivity shortens geologic &#8220;ages&#8221; to a few years.

Radio Halo (photo courtesy of Mark Armitage)


Radiohalos are rings of color formed around microscopic bits of radioactive minerals in rock crystals. They are fossil evidence of radioactive decay.21 &#8220;Squashed&#8221; Polonium-210 radiohalos indicate that Jurassic, Triassic, and Eocene formations in the Colorado plateau were deposited within months of one another, not hundreds of millions of years apart as required by the conventional time scale.22 &#8220;Orphan&#8221; Polonium-218 radiohalos, having no evidence of their mother elements, imply accelerated nuclear decay and very rapid formation of associated minerals.23,24

 

[Melethiel]

simplyg, when copy and pasting from another website, please cite your source.

 

[simplyg123]

Not enough Stone Age skeletons.
Evolutionary anthropologists now say that Homo sapiens existed for at least 185,000 years before agriculture began,28 during which time the world population of humans was roughly constant, between one and ten million. All that time they were burying their dead, often with artifacts. By that scenario, they would have buried at least eight billion bodies.29 If the evolutionary time scale is correct, buried bones should be able to last for much longer than 200,000 years, so many of the supposed eight billion stone age skeletons should still be around (and certainly the buried artifacts). Yet only a few thousand have been found. This implies that the Stone Age was much shorter than evolutionists think, perhaps only a few hundred years in many areas.

 

[simplyg123]

History is too short.
According to evolutionists, Stone Age Homo sapiens existed for 190,000 years before beginning to make written records about 4,000 to 5,000 years ago. Prehistoric man built megalithic monuments, made beautiful cave paintings, and kept records of lunar phases.30 Why would he wait two thousand centuries before using the same skills to record history? The Biblical time scale is much more likely

 

[simplyg123]

im no scientist, but i think this person is so, and who would you be to say he wasnt

 

[simplyg123]

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4005.asp

sorry heres the source site

and here are the references

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Additional resources for items 9&#8211;11.

• DeYoung, D., Thousands &#8230; Not Billions, Master Books (2005) Green Forest, AR.
• Vardiman, L., Snelling, A. A., and Chaffin E. F., editors, Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth, Vol. II, Institute for Creation Research and Creation Research Society (2005) El Cajon, CA and Chino Valley, AZ. (Technical).

 

[simplyg123]

simplyg, when copy and pasting from another website, please cite your source.

sorry about not posting the source, do you have an opinion on this topic or did miss it somewhere?

just curious

 

[calidog]

This is a poll. What is your opinion of the age of the Earth?

roughly 6000 years.
Since Adam and Eve, the creatures, and the plant life were adults when God created them
the heavens and earth were adults when God created them
therefore, the heavens and the earth look old for their age

 

[Melethiel]

im no scientist, but i think this person is so, and who would you be to say he wasnt

Does he have a Ph.D. in any of the related fields?

 

[simplyg123]

Dr. Russell Humphreys, Ph.D., ICR associate professor of physics

indeed