Any thoughts on this?

[woobadooba]

I'm not familiar with the book of Nicodemus, but I have a good idea of who/what the Two Witnesses represent in Rev. 11.

But I would like to know what you have to say from a historical perspective on the following comment:

"Nicodemus wrote a book that the early church circulated. In it there is also the claim that the two witnesses are Enoch and Elijah.​

Nicodemus 20:2-4
"Two very ancient men met them and were asked by the saints, 'Who are ye, who have not been with us in sheol, and have not had your bodies placed in paradise ?' One of them, answering said,
'I am Enoch, who was translated by the word of God,
and this man is Elijah, the Tishbite,
who was translated in a fiery chariot.
Here we have been hitherto and have not tasted death, but are now about to return at the coming of the Antichrist, being armed with divine signs and miracles to engage with him in battle, and to be slain by him at Jerusalem and to be taken up alive again in the clouds after 3 1/2 days.'"​

So, whether you accept the book of nicodemus is aside, it shows that the early church believed it this way... that the second witness was to be Enoch..."​

 

[S Walch]

But Revelation says it's Moshe and Eliyah.

 

[Cyprian31]

ummm...where PRECISELY does the Apocalypse (Revelation) say it's Moses and Elija? The Church Fathers tradionally said it was Enoch and Elija. Moreover, Enoch makes more sense; Moses died. Will God resurrect a dead man for this purpose?

Peace in Christ.

 

[S Walch]

ummm...where PRECISELY does the Apocalypse (Revelation) say it's Moses and Elija?

Good question.

Guess I'm thinking to revelation 15 and the mention of Moses.

Although I'm more incline that it would be Moses and elijah - they were both with Yahushua on the mountain

 

[woobadooba]

ummm...where PRECISELY does the Apocalypse (Revelation) say it's Moses and Elija? The Church Fathers tradionally said it was Enoch and Elija. Moreover, Enoch makes more sense; Moses died. Will God resurrect a dead man for this purpose?

Peace in Christ.

There are hints within the passage that draw our attention to Moses and Elijah.

But to throw your question back at you, where exactly does it say that they are Enoch and Elijah?

 

[Cyprian31]

OK...here goes. Put on your thinking caps... When Moses and Elias appeared at the Mount of Transfiguration, it was symbolic of the Law( Moses) and the Prophets (Elias)...both of which Christ fulfilled. Now, in Revelation, you're right...it doesn't come right out and say. However, Elias never died...he was assumed. Same with Enoch. Now, these two witness preach and are then martyred. If one is Moses, why didn't God assume him, too? After all, it is appointed unto man to die once. True, God cando whatever He wishes, but this makes a tad more sense. lso, as I said, this is pretty much what the Church Fathers taught.