Was 911 an inside job?

[Prophetboy]

"By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand,

And seeing you shall see, and shall not perceive"

 

[CardinalBaseball]

No it was not. NO. NO. NO.

 

[icedtea]

Conspiracy theories are fun.

 

[NumberOneSon]

9/11 was a inside job of the Synagogue of Satan and its WAR RACKET

If that is the case, then could you explain to me why this Synagogue has not seen fit to plant WMD’s in Iraq? I mean, if this group was willing to go to such great lengths as to destroy American national landmarks in order to begin a false war in Iraq, than why in the world haven’t they done anything in the past 3 years to ensure the conflict's continuation by maintaining the charade? If they could plant explosives in the WTC without anyone knowing about it, then why haven’t they planted WMD’s in the sands of Iraq to legitimize the war? It would be quite simple for them…and the warmongers could say, “see, the war is justified”. The whole world would be on board, and the war racket would be making even more money (more weapons, more ammunitions, more field equipment, more rations, more fuel, more military contracts - more everything).

But without any WMD’s, the majority of world opinion is vastly against the war, which has caused Allied countries to pull their troops out, and put the war’s future in jeopardy. Had WMD’s been found, the war would be legitimate, more countries would be involved, and that would mean more money for the war racketeers.

Sorry, just another reason why these theories fail the common sense litmus test, in my opinion.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[gwynedd1]

If that is the case, then could you explain to me why this Synagogue has not seen fit to plant WMD’s in Iraq? I mean, if this group was willing to go to such great lengths as to destroy American national landmarks in order to begin a false war in Iraq, than why in the world haven’t they done anything in the past 3 years to ensure the conflict's continuation by maintaining the charade? If they could plant explosives in the WTC without anyone knowing about it, then why haven’t they planted WMD’s in the sands of Iraq to legitimize the war? It would be quite simple for them…and the warmongers could say, “see, the war is justified”. The whole world would be on board, and the war racket would be making even more money (more weapons, more ammunitions, more field equipment, more rations, more fuel, more military contracts - more everything).

But without any WMD’s, the majority of world opinion is vastly against the war, which has caused Allied countries to pull their troops out, and put the war’s future in jeopardy. Had WMD’s been found, the war would be legitimate, more countries would be involved, and that would mean more money for the war racketeers.

Sorry, just another reason why these theories fail the common sense litmus test, in my opinion.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

Planting them before the war would have been difficult no? It would not result in the patriot act or Afganistan. They are wealthy , not omnipotent and David Kelly did have an untimely death. I also think that the administration will take the fall and what would that matter to the old money that put them their? I actually think they want us to distrust our own govenment.

 

[Driver]

Israel is the only nation in that part of the world with WMD's, for certain (right now). I believe that's why they are so concerned about Iraq and Iran getting them.

The prolonging of the War in Iraq is apparently what "the planners" want. A lot of the ambushes on US troops and "insurgency" violence against Iraqis are very suspicious in nature and likely involves well-funded outsiders.

 

[Driver]

Here's a 6-minute computerized animation of how a Boeing 757 could have hit the Pentagon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8&mode=related&search=

To get that kind of precise flying, it had to have been remote-controlled. The alleged Arab hijacker/pilot, Hani Hanjour, could not have done it, who had trouble even flying Cessnas.

http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/deceptions/badpilots.html

 

[brother daniel]

If that is the case, then could you explain to me why this Synagogue has not seen fit to plant WMD’s in Iraq? I mean, if this group was willing to go to such great lengths as to destroy American national landmarks in order to begin a false war in Iraq, than why in the world haven’t they done anything in the past 3 years to ensure the conflict's continuation by maintaining the charade? If they could plant explosives in the WTC without anyone knowing about it, then why haven’t they planted WMD’s in the sands of Iraq to legitimize the war? It would be quite simple for them…and the warmongers could say, “see, the war is justified”. The whole world would be on board, and the war racket would be making even more money (more weapons, more ammunitions, more field equipment, more rations, more fuel, more military contracts - more everything).

But without any WMD’s, the majority of world opinion is vastly against the war, which has caused Allied countries to pull their troops out, and put the war’s future in jeopardy. Had WMD’s been found, the war would be legitimate, more countries would be involved, and that would mean more money for the war racketeers.

Sorry, just another reason why these theories fail the common sense litmus test, in my opinion.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

Beloved brother Acts6:5,
When addressing the Synagogue of Satan as the perpetrator of 9/11, I am not speaking of a homogenous group that is oversees every step.

What I see is many individuals acting with satanic self interest to rob all those they consider inferior. They like Satan are opportunists and as the plot expanded individuals in high places developed subplots to accomplish many agendas.

But war is a racket for the benefit of war mongers, meaning merchants of arms and other war surplice.

I am a bit surprised that you and other Christians place trust in any government of this world.

The scripture is clear, We war not against flesh and blood, but against powers, principalities, spiritual wickedness in high places and the rulers of the darkness of this world.

9/11 smells rotten for many reasons. I am watching to see what is uncovered. I don’t have the answers but I am impressed at the quality of the citizen powered investigation that is going on.

Its an evil world we live in according to our lord.

With love in Christ
brother daniel

 

[icedtea]

They are getting too sloppy and people are waking up.

 

[Gukkor]

They are getting too sloppy and people are waking up.

If the government were ruthless and powerful enough to kill 3000 of its own citizens for its own ends and then pass the blame off on terrorists, it wouldn't get sloppy enough for people to spontaneously "wake up" to it.

 

[icedtea]

People are waking up anyway, sloppy or not.

 

[Gukkor]

They are getting too sloppy and people are waking up.

People are waking up anyway, sloppy or not.

Agreed. The question is, then, what are they actually waking up to? An truly evil government laden with insidious plots to dominate the world, or simply a self-interested government laden with incompetance and bureaucracy? Certainly, something needs to change either way, but I think one of those choices is far more realistic than the other.

 

[icedtea]

If you read enough, you may find a different outcome.

 

[NumberOneSon]

Planting them before the war would have been difficult no?

Sorry, I wasn’t actually referring to before the war, but after the war had started, when American and Allied forces occupied Iraq. Planting WMD’s after Allied control would have been quite easy. It’s an infinitely less complicated scheme than the one you believe was perpetrated on 9/11, which is why I find it incredulous that the war mongers could pull the strings to orchestrate the start of the war, but yet do nothing to ensure it’s continuation.

It would not result in the patriot act or Afganistan.

Planting WMD’s in Iraq would have justified the Iraq war, which is far more profitable than Afghanistan. Bin Laden and the Taliban were our reasons for going into Afghanistan, but WMD’s had everything to do with why we originally went to war in Iraq.

They are wealthy , not omnipotent and David Kelly did have an untimely death.

But we’re not talking about an operation that would require omnipontence. All the warmongering Illuminati would have to do is pay for the transportation of chemical munitions to one of Saddam’s suspected WMD sites, one that he forbade UN entry to. The Illuminati could then influence the “official report” just like you believe they influenced the “official report” about 9/11. Trot some UN inspectors onto the site, influence the media converage, and bingo - the war is validated. It’s not that hard.

And by the way, I personally believe that it would have required near omnipotence for everything involved in 9/11 to take place according to the conspiratorial view, which is one reason why I’m so skeptical of it.

I also think that the administration will take the fall and what would that matter to the old money that put them their?

It matters because if Bush and Blair leave office and are replaced by people who are dedicated to ending the war, then the troops will be withdrawn and the Iraq war money will cease. If the Illuminati/warmongers/whoever but Bush and Blair into office so profits could be made from a trumped up war, it doesn’t make any financial sense to facilitate worldwide distrust that would threaten their war policies. After all, the “old money” fraternity is interested in making money, right, not losing it?

I actually think they want us to distrust our own govenment.

How would that help them? When the country was united on the war effort and America trusted the Bush administration, and that trust led to the beginning of a profitable war. Now that the country is heavily divided on the war, that distrust threatens to end the conflict (if the Democrats win and follow through on setting a date for withdraw). It is distrust that threatens the longevity of this war, and threatens future profitability for the warmongers, and skepticism could have been easily dismissed had WMD’s been planted in Iraq and during the first year of the occupation. But now there is so much universal distrust toward the Bush administration that even if inspectors did happen to find legitimate WMD’s somewhere in Iraq, most people would probably believe the government had something to do with it.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[NumberOneSon]

Israel is the only nation in that part of the world with WMD's, for certain (right now). I believe that's why they are so concerned about Iraq and Iran getting them.

If the Illuminati/warmongers could orchestrate an incredibly complicated scheme like 9/11, they would have no problem pulling off a mundane scam like transporting chemical weapons from some other country to Iraq.

The prolonging of the War in Iraq is apparently what "the planners" want.

Exactly, which is why the mounting anti-war movement and near universal distrust of the Bush administration is threatening the continuation of this war. It’s gotten so bad in Britain that Tony Blair is going to step down within the year, and who knows if the pro-war Republicans will be able to keep the House, Senate, or even the White House over the next few years.

Finding WMD’s at the beginning of the occupation would have validated the Iraqi war, and that validation would have served to prolong military action in the country, despite road-side bombs, kidnappings, and beheadings. Instead, you now have countries pulling out their troops, and less troops means less money for the warmongers. If the US or Britain pull out, then that’s pretty much the end of the war money, which is not what “the planners” would want.

A lot of the ambushes on US troops and "insurgency" violence against Iraqis are very suspicious in nature and likely involves well-funded outsiders.

That very well could be, but the American people were willing to stomach those loses if they felt the war was just. Without WMD’s, the Bush administration has found it impossible to justify the loss of life in Iraq, even among Republicans, and so the pressure continues to mount to end the war. This pressure wouldn’t exist if chemical weapons had been planted (er, “found”) in Iraq at the beginning of the occupation.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[NumberOneSon]

When addressing the Synagogue of Satan as the perpetrator of 9/11, I am not speaking of a homogenous group that is oversees every step.

What I see is many individuals acting with satanic self interest to rob all those they consider inferior. They like Satan are opportunists and as the plot expanded individuals in high places developed subplots to accomplish many agendas.

Ok, that’s fine, but all I’m saying is, I find it highly incredulous that none of these “individuals in high places” saw fit to plant WMD’s in Iraq in order to justify the war and insure it’s continuation, and thus ensure greater profits. It just doesn’t make any sense

But war is a racket for the benefit of war mongers, meaning merchants of arms and other war surplice.

Which is precisely why it’s unbelievable that none of the racketeers have smuggled WMD’s into Iraq in order to justify the war and ensure its continuation. The lack of WMD’s has already cost them plenty of money in troop pull-outs and lack of funding among the Allied forces.

I am a bit surprised that you and other Christians place trust in any government of this world.

Just because I doubt 9/11 conspiracies doesn’t mean I trust our government. You’re making an unwarranted assumption. I’ve recently stated in another post that I know our government has committed some pretty terrible atrocities over the past 200 years, so I’m not under any false pretences that our government can do no wrong. Andrew Jackson's administration betrayed the Cherokee people and forced them down the Trail of Tears, leading to thousands of deaths. I certainly recognize that injustice. But I just believe many of the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 are incredibly weak or are based on inaccuracies, and I also believe that Al Queda was quite capable of performing the attack on their own. That’s my opinion. If I saw convincing evidence to the contrary, then I would certainly change my view.
In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[brother daniel]

Ok, that’s fine, but all I’m saying is, I find it highly incredulous that none of these “individuals in high places” saw fit to plant WMD’s in Iraq in order to justify the war and insure it’s continuation, and thus ensure greater profits. It just doesn’t make any sense,

It makes a lot of sense if making greater profets is just an extra bonus for accomplishing the agenda of taking over the world.

The highest control group already collects all the money issued with interest through their control of central banks.

Which is precisely why it’s unbelievable that none of the racketeers have smuggled WMD’s into Iraq in order to justify the war and ensure its continuation. The lack of WMD’s has already cost them plenty of money in troop pull-outs and lack of funding among the Allied forces.

It costs the WAR RACKETEERS nothing.

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Just because I doubt 9/11 conspiracies doesn’t mean I trust our government. You’re making an unwarranted assumption. I’ve recently stated in another post that I know our government has committed some pretty terrible atrocities over the past 200 years, so I’m not under any false pretences that our government can do no wrong. I just believe many of the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 are incredibly weak or are based on inaccuracies, and I also believe that Al Queda was quite capable of performing the attack on their own. That’s my opinion.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

Beloved Acts 6:5
I was not refering to you personaly.

The consperacy theories on all sides are weak but, There is a well heeled conspiricy to divide and conquer Christians, Americans, and everybody else in order to establish a one world government, controlling all armies, police, banks, schools, media and resources.

Its Satans MASTER PLAN.

With love in Christ
brother daniel

 

[Driver]

If the Illuminati/warmongers could orchestrate an incredibly complicated scheme like 9/11, they would have no problem pulling off a mundane scam like transporting chemical weapons from some other country to Iraq.



Exactly, which is why the mounting anti-war movement and near universal distrust of the Bush administration is threatening the continuation of this war. It’s gotten so bad in Britain that Tony Blair is going to step down within the year, and who knows if the pro-war Republicans will be able to keep the House, Senate, or even the White House over the next few years.

When things go sour, it seems to be accompanied by "new announcements" of terrorist plots being thwarted and the raising of the "terror alert" level. In the case of Great Britain, they have had their own 9/11, which happened on July 7, 2005, the London train bombings.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060915&articleId=3238

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060814&articleId=2960


You have to ask yourself "Who gained from 9/11?" and "Who has gained from the War in Iraq and the War on Terror"? It looks like it was Israel, because the US (and Coalition) troops are now over in Iraq, serving as a buffer between it and Iran. When asked about the 9/11 attacks, former Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu's first reaction was "It's very good".

 

[gwynedd1]

Ok, that’s fine, but all I’m saying is, I find it highly incredulous that none of these “individuals in high places” saw fit to plant WMD’s in Iraq in order to justify the war and insure it’s continuation, and thus ensure greater profits. It just doesn’t make any sense




Which is precisely why it’s unbelievable that none of the racketeers have smuggled WMD’s into Iraq in order to justify the war and ensure its continuation. The lack of WMD’s has already cost them plenty of money in troop pull-outs and lack of funding among the Allied forces.


Just because I doubt 9/11 conspiracies doesn’t mean I trust our government. You’re making an unwarranted assumption. I’ve recently stated in another post that I know our government has committed some pretty terrible atrocities over the past 200 years, so I’m not under any false pretences that our government can do no wrong. Andrew Jackson's administration betrayed the Cherokee people and forced them down the Trail of Tears, leading to thousands of deaths. I certainly recognize that injustice. But I just believe many of the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 are incredibly weak or are based on inaccuracies, and I also believe that Al Queda was quite capable of performing the attack on their own. That’s my opinion. If I saw convincing evidence to the contrary, then I would certainly change my view.
In Christ,

Acts6:5

You have to understand what is at stake. It is not oil as I have explained elsewhere but petro-dollars. The dollar oil bourse is a financial empire that was begun at the close of the gold window by Nixon. This is why high oil prices do not cause inflation but rather is deflationary. High oil prices mean more demand for petro-dollars. This allows the US to tax the world by inflation. The power at stake is vast. The first thing to do when a crime is commited is to establish motive. Most American's think it is to prevent $4 gallon of gas. They could not be more wrong.

Here is a video of Former Malaysian PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pACcuWDuynk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p4ROxbR3tk

This explains the situation. In particular he mentions the control of the world's currency. This is the motive it seems few understand.

 

[brother daniel]

When things go sour, it seems to be accompanied by "new announcements" of terrorist plots being thwarted and the raising of the "terror alert" level. In the case of Great Britain, they have had their own 9/11, which happened on September 7, 2005, the London train bombings.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060915&articleId=3238

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060814&articleId=2960


You have to ask yourself "Who gained from 9/11?" and "Who has gained from the War in Iraq and the War on Terror"? It looks like it was Israel, because the US (and Coalition) troops are now over in Iraq, serving as a buffer between it and Iran. When asked about the 9/11 attacks, former Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu's first reaction was "It's very good".

Beloved,
We should pray for wisdom.

THERE was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it played out before their eyes.


Who do you think they were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all counts. They were Israelis – and at least two of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.
Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause. After the attacks on New York and Washington, the former Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was asked what the terrorist strikes would mean for US-Israeli relations. He said: “It’s very good.” Then he corrected himself, adding: “Well, it’s not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy [for Israel from Americans].”
http://www.sundayherald.com/37707

According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:

"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem." (9)​

Why did he feel that Palestinians were a problem for the NYPD?
The police and FBI field agents became very suspicious when they found maps of the city with certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives</I>. (10)

The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently celebratory gesture. (11)​

The Jerusalem Post later reported that a white van with a bomb was stopped as it approached the George Washington Bridge, but the ethnicity of the suspects was not revealed. Here's what the Jerusalem Post reported on September 12, 2001:

American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington Bridge. The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the bridge. Authorities suspect the terrorists intended to blow up the main crossing between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported. (12)​

TCM Breaking News reported that the van was laden down with tonnes of explosives (13).
What's really intriguing is that ABC's 20/20 (14), the New York Post (15), and the New Jersey Bergen Record (16) all clearly and unambiguously reported that a white van with Israelis was intercepted on a ramp near Route 3, which leads directly to the Lincoln Tunnel.
But the Jerusalem Post, Israeli National News (Arutz Sheva) (17), and Yediot America, (18) all reported, just as clearly and unambiguously, that a white van with Israelis was stopped on a ramp leading to the George Washington Bridge, which is several miles north of the Lincoln Tunnel.

It appears as if there may actually have been two white vans involved, one stopped on each crossing. This would not only explain the conflicting reports as to the actual location of the arrests, but would also explain how so many credible eye-witnesses all saw celebrating "middle-easterners" in a white van in so many different locations. It also explains why the New York Post and Steve Gordon (lawyer for the 5 Israelis) originally described how three Israelis were arrested but later increased the total to five. Perhaps one van was meant to drop off a bomb while the other was meant to pick up the first set of drivers while re-crossing back into New Jersey? If a van was to be used as a parked time-bomb on the GW Bridge, then certainly the drivers would need to have a "get-away van" to pick them up and escape. And notice how the van (or vans) stayed away from the third major crossing -the Holland Tunnel- which was where the police had originally been directed to by that anti-Palestinian 9-1-1 "mystery caller". A classic misdirection play.
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From there, the story gets becomes even more suspicious. The Israelis worked for a Weehawken moving company known as Urban Moving Systems. An American employee of Urban Moving Systems told the The Record of New Jersey that a majority of his co-workers were Israelis and they were joking about the attacks.

The employee, who declined to give his name said: "I was in tears. These guys were joking and that bothered me." These guys were like, "Now America knows what we go through." (19)​

A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System's Israeli owner, Dominick Suter, dropped his business and fled the country for Israel. He was in such a hurry to flee America that some of Urban Moving System's customers were left with their furniture stranded in storage facilities (20).
It was later confirmed that the five detained Israelis were in fact Mossad agents (21). They were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. Some of the movers had been kept in solitary confinement for 40 days. (22)

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everal of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event." (23)​

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How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11?
It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents - here's the most logical scenario:

1. The Israeli "movers" cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history. 2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.
3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices.
4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALL bridges and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils the Israelis' misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day torture.
5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same dragnet as many other Arabs.
6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department "higher-ups" are able to gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly
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Beloved 9/11 was murder. Who did it? We dont know.
But Israel gained from it.

With love in Christ
brother daniel