Can't seem to stop blogging today -- nearly everything seems/feels "important" to get down somehow.
One of the difficulties Moriah keeps running into in this business being this hidden secret meaning of "allow" which everyone ELSE seems to grasp but which continually eludes it.
It therefore appears to Moriah like a nasty "code word" for "do for yourself in yourself what only Christ can do for you and in you, in order to prove to Him that you really want Him to do it." This ties poor daimonizomai in absolute knots and sends it falling into the Abyss.
It has tried time and time again to clear this up, to get a handle on this, and cannot seem to get past the "code word" thing. Unfortunately this "code word" thing seems to turn Christianity into a "Dumbo's magic feather" trick instead of a life-transforming experience. Which folds in upon itself because if one can already "fly", one does not need the feather in the first place at all. In other words:
But with these little tricksy code words like "let" and "allow" and "choose" which all get used as euphemisms for the "dumbo's magic feather" version of faith, people effectively doom our kind to the outer darkness, to imprisonment in the Abyss, forever, simply because we don't have the ability within ourselves to save ourselves as a means of proving our sincerity about wanting salvation.
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In thinking about these bizarre words which Moriah cannot make sense from -- "allow", "let", "permit" -- it appears that they refer to cases or situations in which one has some kind of conscious control over something and therefore stands in a position to determine whether it takes place or not. Perhaps the reason daimonizomai cannot make sense of these words bes because it does not have conscious control over these things nor does it even know where that "control" exists inside to get to it.
To illustrate: if we picture the brain as an elaborate "control panel" full of buttons and levers and switches, this would be either an unlabeled button it does not know how to find or tell from other buttons, or a switch on an entirely unknown hidden panel somewhere of which it has no cognizance nor conscious awareness. It would not be merely a button under glass for then it would know where to find it and it would just become a matter of breaking that glass to get to it. It does not even know where to find this button or switch though.
Not like, say, a coffeemaker where Moriah can control whether coffee gets made or not by working the appropriate switch to turn it on. Or a stove where Moriah can control whether food gets made by turning on the burner and putting ingredients in a pan. This has to do with controlling the decisive action of Someone Else -- a ludicrous notion when applied to mere humans and how much moreso when one presumes to think to apply it to the Sovereign of the Universe! :o But to illustrate, Moriah cannot control whether its fiance cooks food or not. It can ask him to, and he probably would if she did, but it cannot MAKE him do so.
So it does not perceive itself to be in control of anything which requires another's decisive action. Regardless of what it might desire from others, only they get to decide and control how they treat Moriah. It might wish them to be kind but they choose to be cruel instead. It might then wish to avoid them but they pursue it and forcibly impose their cruelty. It might not want to get raped but the rapist comes nonetheless. It might not wish to be robbed but the thief comes nonetheless. It might do all it can to protect itself and keep them out but they overpower somehow -- weapons, bodily strength, picking locks, smashing glass.
So in the case of Christ standing at the door and knocking ... if it calls out, "come in ..." and He answers, "I can't, it's locked from the inside," and Moriah cannot find the key to unlock the door, well what then?
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One of the difficulties Moriah keeps running into in this business being this hidden secret meaning of "allow" which everyone ELSE seems to grasp but which continually eludes it.
It therefore appears to Moriah like a nasty "code word" for "do for yourself in yourself what only Christ can do for you and in you, in order to prove to Him that you really want Him to do it." This ties poor daimonizomai in absolute knots and sends it falling into the Abyss.
It has tried time and time again to clear this up, to get a handle on this, and cannot seem to get past the "code word" thing. Unfortunately this "code word" thing seems to turn Christianity into a "Dumbo's magic feather" trick instead of a life-transforming experience. Which folds in upon itself because if one can already "fly", one does not need the feather in the first place at all. In other words:
If you can will yourself to stop being yourself and stop sinning, in order to prove to Christ that you really bes "sincere" in needing and wanting Him to save you from yourself and your sin, then you don't need saving from sin and you don't need Him: you have already saved yourself by your own "will power".
Yes, some of us happen to be genuine sinners in genuine bondage having genuinely lost control in genuine need of rescue who CANNOT do it all for ourselves as some twisted way of "proviing" to God how desperately we need Him to do it in us and for us and how very much we want Him to, for real and for keeps, not just for two hours of tasting glory then vanish again.
But with these little tricksy code words like "let" and "allow" and "choose" which all get used as euphemisms for the "dumbo's magic feather" version of faith, people effectively doom our kind to the outer darkness, to imprisonment in the Abyss, forever, simply because we don't have the ability within ourselves to save ourselves as a means of proving our sincerity about wanting salvation.
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In thinking about these bizarre words which Moriah cannot make sense from -- "allow", "let", "permit" -- it appears that they refer to cases or situations in which one has some kind of conscious control over something and therefore stands in a position to determine whether it takes place or not. Perhaps the reason daimonizomai cannot make sense of these words bes because it does not have conscious control over these things nor does it even know where that "control" exists inside to get to it.
To illustrate: if we picture the brain as an elaborate "control panel" full of buttons and levers and switches, this would be either an unlabeled button it does not know how to find or tell from other buttons, or a switch on an entirely unknown hidden panel somewhere of which it has no cognizance nor conscious awareness. It would not be merely a button under glass for then it would know where to find it and it would just become a matter of breaking that glass to get to it. It does not even know where to find this button or switch though.
Not like, say, a coffeemaker where Moriah can control whether coffee gets made or not by working the appropriate switch to turn it on. Or a stove where Moriah can control whether food gets made by turning on the burner and putting ingredients in a pan. This has to do with controlling the decisive action of Someone Else -- a ludicrous notion when applied to mere humans and how much moreso when one presumes to think to apply it to the Sovereign of the Universe! :o But to illustrate, Moriah cannot control whether its fiance cooks food or not. It can ask him to, and he probably would if she did, but it cannot MAKE him do so.
So it does not perceive itself to be in control of anything which requires another's decisive action. Regardless of what it might desire from others, only they get to decide and control how they treat Moriah. It might wish them to be kind but they choose to be cruel instead. It might then wish to avoid them but they pursue it and forcibly impose their cruelty. It might not want to get raped but the rapist comes nonetheless. It might not wish to be robbed but the thief comes nonetheless. It might do all it can to protect itself and keep them out but they overpower somehow -- weapons, bodily strength, picking locks, smashing glass.
So in the case of Christ standing at the door and knocking ... if it calls out, "come in ..." and He answers, "I can't, it's locked from the inside," and Moriah cannot find the key to unlock the door, well what then?
-- "Go ahead, you have its permission to break down the door -- sorry, the key has been lost," it might say.
-- "Sorry, no can do," it expects would be His reply. "That would violate your free will and we cannot permit God to gain the reputation of being a rapist" (one that forcibly inserts themselves into you in violation of your free will).
-- "But it bes no such violation; daimonizomai wants You to break in!! It begs You to do so!!"
-- "Scripture cannot be broken, though, and it has already been declared that only the thief -- who comes only to steal, kill, and destroy -- breaks into houses. Not the righteous God."
-- "But if You refuse to break in, Moriah will perish!!"
-- "Yes but that would be entirely your fault. I knocked and you refused to let Me in. What more could I do? I cannot violate Myself and behave like a rogue instead of a 'gentleman', forcing Myself into you. That's too much like what Satan would do; what would the others think? We must avoid all appearances of evil, after all."
*plonk*-- "Sorry, no can do," it expects would be His reply. "That would violate your free will and we cannot permit God to gain the reputation of being a rapist" (one that forcibly inserts themselves into you in violation of your free will).
-- "But it bes no such violation; daimonizomai wants You to break in!! It begs You to do so!!"
-- "Scripture cannot be broken, though, and it has already been declared that only the thief -- who comes only to steal, kill, and destroy -- breaks into houses. Not the righteous God."
-- "But if You refuse to break in, Moriah will perish!!"
-- "Yes but that would be entirely your fault. I knocked and you refused to let Me in. What more could I do? I cannot violate Myself and behave like a rogue instead of a 'gentleman', forcing Myself into you. That's too much like what Satan would do; what would the others think? We must avoid all appearances of evil, after all."
