(Re: Do Muslims deny YHWH, saying that the Bible has been corrupted?)
Muslims mistakenly think that the Bible has been corrupted, but they do not think that the (YHWH) God of the Bible Himself is corrupt. For they affirm that the God of the Biblical personages of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, etc. is the true God. They just always call Him by the Arabic name of "Allah" (which simply means "God"), instead of by the Hebrew name of "YHWH" God.
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(Re: Do Muslims worship Lucifer because they believe in *terrorism?)
Most Muslims are not terrorists, but moderates. Also, moderate Muslims would say that terrorism is not truly taught by Islam per se. So the future Antichrist's False Prophet, as part of an initial campaign to gain moderate Muslims as his followers, could appeal to their rejection of terrorism.
(See Revelation 13:11 below)
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(Re: Don't all that Lucifer and the Antichrist care about is that people deny the true God?)
No, for Lucifer and the Antichrist also care about being worshipped, and as themselves, not as someone else (Luke 4:7; 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Revelation 13:4-18).
(See section 1 of Revelation 13:4 above)
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(Re: The *12th Imam / *Mahdi)
The Twelfth Imam is also called the Mahdi.
Regarding the Muslim "Mahdi", during the future Antichrist's rise to power, before he declares himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36) and begins his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:4-18), if he greatly increases the military and political power of the Arab world, which is mostly Muslim, many Muslims could declare him to be the Mahdi. They could do this even though he will not fulfill most of the detailed Muslim prophecies regarding the Mahdi. For the Muslim prophecies regarding the Mahdi are not Biblical, and so nothing requires that they will all be fulfilled. Also, the Antichrist could reject the solely-human title of the "Mahdi", in his own mind, as being far beneath what he sees as his divinity. And before he declares himself God, if he rejects the title of "Mahdi" publicly, he could pretend to do so for humble reasons, saying something like: "Oh, no, I am not the great Mahdi, but a humble peacemaker who wants the best for all Arabs, and for all mankind, no matter what religion they may presently follow", etc.
Also, the first person whom Muslims will declare to be the Mahdi may not even be the Antichrist. For before the Antichrist arises on the world stage (Daniel 11:21-45), an Iraqi Baathist General could lead an all-out war against Israel which will result in its total defeat and occupation (Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17, the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath"). This Iraqi Baathist General could then be hailed by Muslims worldwide as the Mahdi. But he will subsequently suffer a defeat (perhaps in Algeria), and then he will mysteriously disappear (Daniel 11:18-19). So the Muslims could say that they were mistaken in thinking that he was the Mahdi.
Similarly, years later, when the Antichrist claims to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36) and starts forcing the world to worship him (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") and Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) (Revelation 13:4-8, Revelation 12:9) and an image of the Antichrist (Revelation 13:15), if many Muslims had said that he was the Mahdi, some of them could say that they were mistaken. Also, these actions by the Antichrist will result in a fatwa death sentence being issued against him by radical Muslim clerics, which fatwa Islamic terrorists could then try to carry out by waging all-out jihad ("holy war") against the Antichrist. For they hold most strongly to Islam's tenets that no man can be God, that Lucifer/Satan is evil, and that no image can be worshipped. But the terrorist part of Islam (just as even the moderate part of Islam, and just as even public, Biblical Christianity) will eventually be wiped out during the future Antichrist's literal 3.5-year worldwide reign, when everyone (not in hiding) will be forced to convert to the Antichrist's religion of Gnostic Luciferianism, also called Satanism, or they will be executed (Revelation 13:4-18; 1 John 2:22; 2 John 1:7).
Also, even though Jews today do not go around killing people for religious reasons, by the time that the Antichrist declares himself God, some ultra-Orthodox Jews led by a miracle-working false "Messiah" in Israel might also feel inspired to try to kill the Antichrist for blasphemy, especially when he will commit it (at least one time) even within their own (future) temple (2 Thessalonians 2:4) in Jerusalem, and he will defile that temple (Daniel 11:31,36, Matthew 24:15). The Antichrist could also sit in every other religion's holiest shrine and declare himself God there as well. For example, he could also sit (at least one time) in Islam's Kaaba in Mecca, in the Sikhs' Golden Temple in Amritsar, in Catholicism's St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican, etc. This could result in the radical adherents of every religion becoming so enraged at the Antichrist that they will all attempt to assassinate him. But they will all fail to defeat him, for he will not be defeated until he is cast alive into the lake of fire and brimstone at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming (2 Thessalonians 2:8-9, Revelation 19:20).
(See also the "Dajjal" section below)
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(Re: During the future Tribulation, if the Antichrist is killed and comes back to life and says that he is God, could the Muslims think that the Koran is wrong in saying that no man can be God?)
Many moderate Muslims could become convinced by the future Antichrist's miracle-working False Prophet (of Revelation 19:20) that the early manuscripts of the Koran were partially corrupted by men, so that many Muslims will accept whatever the False Prophet tells them is correct and incorrect in the Koran. He could do the same thing with many Christians regarding the Bible.
(See Revelation 13:11 below)
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(Re: The *Dajjal)
In Muslim prophecy, besides the Mahdi there is also "The Masih ad-Dajjal", or "The False Messiah", whom Muslims say will appear in the end times. While Bible prophecy shows that in our future there will be multiple false Messiahs who will be able to perform amazing miracles (Matthew 24:24), Muslims could focus on one of these, a miracle-working, ultra-Orthodox Jewish false "Messiah" in Israel as being "The Masih ad-Dajjal", after he declares himself to be the Messiah, but then (with his ultra-Orthodox Jewish followers) destroys the Muslim Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque (the third-holiest sites in Islam) on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, to clear the site for the building of a third Jewish temple.
It could be this destruction of the Muslim Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque, by a man whom the Muslims could declare to be "The Masih ad-Dajjal", which will give rise to the all-out war in which another man, an Arab who could be the first man whom the Muslims will declare to be the Mahdi, will completely defeat and occupy Israel (Daniel 11:15-17).
(See the "War" section of Revelation 13:5 below. Also, see Daniel 9:26 above)
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(Re: *Not RCC) / (*RCC)
The future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast"), during his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5-18), will not support Catholicism in its past and current form, insofar as Catholicism affirms that Jesus is the Christ, while the Antichrist will deny that Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22). And Catholicism affirms that Jesus is the Son of God, while the Antichrist will deny that Jesus is the Son of God (1 John 2:22b). And Catholicism affirms that Christ is in the flesh, while the Antichrist (like the Gnostics) will deny that Christ is in the flesh (2 John 1:7). And Catholicism affirms that the God of the Bible (YHWH) is the true God, while the Antichrist (like the Gnostics) will utterly revile YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36). And Catholicism affirms that the only man who is God is Jesus Christ of Nazareth, while the Antichrist will say that he (the Antichrist) is God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). And Catholicism affirms that Lucifer (Satan) is evil, while the Antichrist will bring the world into the conscious and open worship of Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9). So the future Antichrist's religion, during his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign, will not be Catholicism in its past and current form, but a blend of Gnosticism and Luciferianism, also called Satanism.
Nonetheless, before Lucifer gives the Antichrist power over all nations (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9), the Antichrist, and the man who will be his False Prophet (Revelation 19:20) (who could be a secretly apostate pope), could at first pretend to support Catholicism (as well as Christianity generally, and also Islam), in order to start gaining a worldwide following.
(See Revelation 13:11 below. Also, see section 1 of Revelation 13:4 above)
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(Re: Have you fallen for *Jesuit futurism?)
Note that no Jesuit says that a pope could be secretly apostate and become the future Antichrist's False Prophet of Revelation 19:20, or that the RCC (like all other churches) has corrupt aspects which are included in what the symbolic harlot "Babylon" of Revelation chapters 17-18 represents.
The fact remains that the future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") will not support Catholicism in its past and current form, during his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (of Revelation 13:5-18), for all of the Biblical (not Jesuitical) reasons given in the section above.
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(Re: The death toll attributable to the Reformers, while indefensible, is an infinitesimal fraction of the fifty million or more slaughtered over more than 1,200 years by the papacy)
Can you quote the original historical records which support the claim of fifty million deaths, so we can see what they say?
Also, how many people does the RCC claim that it killed, and how has this claim been proven too low from original historical records?
Also, what is the RCC's current view regarding the Wars and Inquisitions of the Reformation and Counter-Reformation?
Also, why is not the papacy killing anyone today if it is the Antichrist, as the Reformers mistakenly thought?
Or did the papacy stop being the Antichrist at some point, according to current Reformed doctrine?
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(Re: The argument that "Protestantism is no different than the Inquisition" is dead on departure)
Note that it is not, insofar as both employed (in your own words) "indefensible" killings of people who disagreed with them doctrinally (e.g. Servetus).
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(Re: The last known explicit public affirmation that the papacy is Christ/God was by John Paul II back in the 1990s: "Have no fear when people call me the 'Vicar of Christ,' when they say to me 'Holy Father,' or 'Your Holiness,' or use titles similar to these, which seem even inimical to the Gospel.")
While those three titles are each inimical to specific teachings in the Bible (1 Timothy 2:5, Matthew 23:9, Luke 18:19), none of those titles is claiming that the papacy is Christ/God. Nor do any of those titles contradict the Gospel by which Christians are saved from hell (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).
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(Re: Pope Pius XI, 1922: "You know that I am the Holy Father, the representative of God on earth, the Vicar of Christ, which means that I am God on the earth.")
Note that he had just finished saying that he was only "the representative" of God on the earth. So he was not claiming equality with God, but meant that his authority was the same as God's on the earth. While this claim was absurd, it is different than the claim of the future Antichrist, who will say that he is God Himself (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36).
(See 2 Thessalonians 2:4 above)
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(Re: If the Reformers had not checked the papacy, we would still be under its tyranny today)
Not necessarily, for the RCC on its own could have eventually given rise to a Gorbachev-like pope, that is, one who instituted reforms which ultimately led to the withering-away of the papacy, like how Gorbachev's reforms in the USSR ultimately led to its withering away.
Also, your argument is like that of non-pacifists who say that America would still be under the tyranny of Britain if the Founding Fathers had not become violent in the American Revolution.
(See "the U.S.'s Founding Fathers rebelled against YHWH" under Revelation 13:5 below)
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(Re: The *Druze)
The future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") could have grown up as a Druze Arab, in Lebanon, in the modern city of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:4). So he could at first present himself to the world as being of the (quasi-Islamic) Druze religion, which is waiting for the second coming of a God-man named Hakim. The Antichrist's last name could be Hakim, and he could at first present himself to the Druze people as the second coming of this God-man. In this way, he could get the Druze people to support him without question during an initial rise to power among the Arabs. The Druze Arabs could be the numerically "small people" of Daniel 11:23. The Antichrist could make them his completely devoted bodyguard, and buy them many key positions of power within a future, United Arab States (which the Antichrist could become the leader of in the first stage of his world takeover), and employ Druze people as loyal spies and assassins at every level of his United Arab government and military.
The Druze religion is very secretive. What it teaches to its higher-level initiates is not even taught to its lower-level initiates. What it could teach to its higher-level initiates could basically be Gnosticism mixed in with the Hakim God-man idea. The Antichrist himself, while outwardly a Druze, could inwardly be a Gnostic Luciferian, that is, a Satanist. He could be a highest-level initiate of a worldwide secret society which ultimately teaches Satanism, but keeps this a secret even from its own members who have not yet been initiated into its highest level.
(See also the "Cabal" section of Revelation 13:5 below)
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(Re: *Not Judaism) / (*Not Jew) / (*Dan - tribe)
The future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast"), during his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5-18), will not support Judaism in its past and current form, insofar as Judaism worships YHWH (Deuteronomy 6:4-5), while the Antichrist will utterly revile YHWH (Daniel 11:36, Revelation 13:5). And Judaism rejects Lucifer/Satan as being evil (Zechariah 3:2, Isaiah 14:12), while the Antichrist will bring the world into the conscious and open worship of Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9). And Judaism forbids the worship of any images (Leviticus 26:1), while the Antichrist will have an image made of himself to be worshipped (Revelation 13:15).
Regarding the idea of the Antichrist being Jewish by blood, both of his parents could be Arabs (if his mother was not impregnated by Satan himself). But from some long-ago ancestor, the Antichrist could also have some Jewish blood in him, from the tribe of Dan (Genesis 49:17), which could be the reason that the tribe of Dan is not included in the twelve tribes of the 144,000 (Revelation 7:4-8; there, "Joseph" stands for Ephraim: Numbers 1:32, Psalms 78:67, Ezekiel 37:16b,19).
(See the "Druze" section above. Also, see Revelation 7:4 above)
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(Re: How can Satan himself impregnate anyone? Are you accrediting him with God's power?)
It is possible that God could have let Satan himself wrongly employ his free will to impregnate a woman, who then gave birth to the Antichrist, just as God lets unmarried men wrongly employ their free will to impregnate unmarried women, who then give birth to children out of wedlock, and just as Genesis 6:2,4 could mean that God let some fallen angels wrongly employ their free will to impregnate some women, who then gave birth to hybrid human/angelic children who grew up to be mighty giants.
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(Re: Is the tribe of Dan excluded from the 144,000 because Dan was steeped in idolatry, and was one of the two tribes that was, and so both are not in the 144,000?)
Note that all of the tribes of Israel became steeped in idolatry (Ezekiel 6:5, Ezekiel 8:10, Ezekiel 14:5). And Dan is the only tribe not in the list of Revelation 7:5-8. There, "Joseph" stands for Ephraim (Numbers 1:32, Psalms 78:67, Ezekiel 37:16b,19).
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(Re: *Not Christ)
Note that "anti"-Christ can simply mean anyone who is "against" the true Christ, as in any "opponent of the Messiah" (Strong's Greek Dictionary, Word #500: antichristos), as in anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22), or denies that Jesus is the human/divine Son of God (1 John 2:22b), or denies that Christ is in the flesh (2 John 1:7). The spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:3) has been working since the first century AD (2 Thessalonians 2:7), animating many antichrists since that time (1 John 2:18; 2 John 1:7).
And note that nothing requires that the future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") will ever claim to be the Messiah/Christ. For his antichrist denial that Christ is in the flesh (1 John 4:3) will disqualify him as a mortal-flesh human (under his Gnostic doctrine) from being Christ. Instead, the non-mortal-flesh Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) could be the false Christ (that is, the "Lucifer" Christ, and not the "Jesus" Christ: 1 John 2:22) during the future Antichrist's literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9), which will be in the latter half of the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24.
But none of this means that there will not also be multiple, human false Christs who will arise during the future Tribulation (Matthew 24:24), including one who will be an ultra-Orthodox Jewish false Christ/Messiah. For shortly after the start of the Tribulation the Antichrist could "cut" a peace treaty with an ultra-Orthodox Jewish false "Messiah" (Daniel 9:26a, Daniel 11:22-23a) in Israel, promising this false Messiah and his ultra-Orthodox Jewish followers that they can keep for at least seven years (Daniel 9:27a) a third Jewish temple (Revelation 11:1) which they will have built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
(See also Daniel 9:26 above)
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(Re: *Not Jesus)
When Satan (Lucifer, the dragon) is cast down to the earth permanently at the midpoint of the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Revelation 12:9,12), he will not claim to be "Jesus" Christ, just as the separate Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast", the man of sin: 2 Thessalonians 2:3b-4,9, Revelation 13:4-18) will not claim that Lucifer (or claim that he, the Antichrist) is "Jesus" Christ. For "anti"-Christ means someone who denies that Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22).
(See also the first "not Satan" section of Revelation 13:5 below)
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(Re: *Not YHWH)
The Antichrist will not say that he is YHWH, but will utterly revile YHWH (Daniel 11:36, Revelation 13:6). For the Antichrist will be a Gnostic (1 John 4:3), and Gnostics revile YHWH. At the same time, the Antichrist will be a Luciferian, a Satanist, for he will bring the world into the conscious and open worship of Lucifer/Satan the dragon (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9). Luciferians mistakenly revile YHWH as being evil, while YHWH rightly rebukes Lucifer/Satan as being evil (Zechariah 3:2, Isaiah 14:12-15).
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(Re: *Not all religions)
It is sometimes said that the future Antichrist will manage to serve all non-Christians' desires about religion. But the truth is that during the literal 3.5-year worldwide reign of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast"), in the power of Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9), Lucifer and the Antichrist will not use their power to serve all non-Christians' desires about religion. For example, some non-Christians, atheists, desire no religion, no God. But atheists (just as everyone else) will be forced to worship Lucifer, the Antichrist, and an image of the Antichrist on the pain of death (Revelation 13:4-17). Also, Muslims desire to worship only Allah, and desire to reject Lucifer/Satan, and desire not to worship any images. But they (just as everyone else) will be forced to worship Lucifer, the Antichrist, and his image. Also, religious Jews desire to worship only YHWH, and desire to reject Lucifer/Satan, and desire not to worship any images. But they (just as everyone else) will be forced to worship Lucifer, the Antichrist, and his image. And so on, through all of the other religions which have tenets directly opposed to the Antichrist's religion of Gnostic Luciferianism, also called Satanism.
But Buddhism and Hinduism have some core tenets which are in full accord with the Antichrist's religion.
(See the "Buddhism" and "Gnosticism" sections of 1 John 4:3 above)
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(*42 months)
Regarding the 42 months, 1,260 days, and "a time, and times, and half a time", they are all the same time period in the prophecies of Revelation 13:5, Revelation 11:2-3, Revelation 12:6,14, Daniel 7:25, and Daniel 12:7. They will be 1,260 literal days, just as, for example, the three days in the fulfilled prophecies of Luke 9:22 and Luke 18:33 were literal days, and the three days in the fulfilled prophecies of Genesis 40:13 and Genesis 40:19 were literal days. Similarly, the seventy years in the fulfilled prophecy of Jeremiah 29:10 (Daniel 9:2) were literal years (Zechariah 7:5), and the 400 years in the fulfilled prophecy of Genesis 15:13 were literal years.
The literal 1,260-day time period will be the time of the Antichrist's Luciferian/Satanic worldwide reign of terror (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9), which time period is shown from four different angles in Revelation chapters 11 to 14 (Revelation 11:2b-3, Revelation 12:6,14, Revelation 13:5,7, Revelation 14:9-13). The myriad details of these chapters have never been fulfilled, not even during a past time period of 1,260 years, as historicism mistakenly claims. But these details must be fulfilled (Revelation 1:1). So they will be fulfilled in our future, after the also-never-fulfilled details of Revelation chapters 6 to 10 are fulfilled in our future.
(See the "Details" section of Revelation chapters 6 to 22 (Overview) above)
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(Re: The Antichrist's *Career)
The Antichrist may not appear on the world stage until after the future, horrible, Tribulation-starting war of Revelation 6:4-8 and Daniel 11:15-17 has resulted in the total defeat and occupation of Israel, and Egypt, and the death of one-fourth of the world (Revelation 6:8). It could be this war which will help open the way for the Antichrist to arise on the world stage as a great man of peace and antitypically fulfill the "vile person" of Daniel 11:21-45.
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Muslims mistakenly think that the Bible has been corrupted, but they do not think that the (YHWH) God of the Bible Himself is corrupt. For they affirm that the God of the Biblical personages of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, etc. is the true God. They just always call Him by the Arabic name of "Allah" (which simply means "God"), instead of by the Hebrew name of "YHWH" God.
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(Re: Do Muslims worship Lucifer because they believe in *terrorism?)
Most Muslims are not terrorists, but moderates. Also, moderate Muslims would say that terrorism is not truly taught by Islam per se. So the future Antichrist's False Prophet, as part of an initial campaign to gain moderate Muslims as his followers, could appeal to their rejection of terrorism.
(See Revelation 13:11 below)
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(Re: Don't all that Lucifer and the Antichrist care about is that people deny the true God?)
No, for Lucifer and the Antichrist also care about being worshipped, and as themselves, not as someone else (Luke 4:7; 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Revelation 13:4-18).
(See section 1 of Revelation 13:4 above)
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(Re: The *12th Imam / *Mahdi)
The Twelfth Imam is also called the Mahdi.
Regarding the Muslim "Mahdi", during the future Antichrist's rise to power, before he declares himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36) and begins his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:4-18), if he greatly increases the military and political power of the Arab world, which is mostly Muslim, many Muslims could declare him to be the Mahdi. They could do this even though he will not fulfill most of the detailed Muslim prophecies regarding the Mahdi. For the Muslim prophecies regarding the Mahdi are not Biblical, and so nothing requires that they will all be fulfilled. Also, the Antichrist could reject the solely-human title of the "Mahdi", in his own mind, as being far beneath what he sees as his divinity. And before he declares himself God, if he rejects the title of "Mahdi" publicly, he could pretend to do so for humble reasons, saying something like: "Oh, no, I am not the great Mahdi, but a humble peacemaker who wants the best for all Arabs, and for all mankind, no matter what religion they may presently follow", etc.
Also, the first person whom Muslims will declare to be the Mahdi may not even be the Antichrist. For before the Antichrist arises on the world stage (Daniel 11:21-45), an Iraqi Baathist General could lead an all-out war against Israel which will result in its total defeat and occupation (Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17, the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath"). This Iraqi Baathist General could then be hailed by Muslims worldwide as the Mahdi. But he will subsequently suffer a defeat (perhaps in Algeria), and then he will mysteriously disappear (Daniel 11:18-19). So the Muslims could say that they were mistaken in thinking that he was the Mahdi.
Similarly, years later, when the Antichrist claims to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36) and starts forcing the world to worship him (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") and Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) (Revelation 13:4-8, Revelation 12:9) and an image of the Antichrist (Revelation 13:15), if many Muslims had said that he was the Mahdi, some of them could say that they were mistaken. Also, these actions by the Antichrist will result in a fatwa death sentence being issued against him by radical Muslim clerics, which fatwa Islamic terrorists could then try to carry out by waging all-out jihad ("holy war") against the Antichrist. For they hold most strongly to Islam's tenets that no man can be God, that Lucifer/Satan is evil, and that no image can be worshipped. But the terrorist part of Islam (just as even the moderate part of Islam, and just as even public, Biblical Christianity) will eventually be wiped out during the future Antichrist's literal 3.5-year worldwide reign, when everyone (not in hiding) will be forced to convert to the Antichrist's religion of Gnostic Luciferianism, also called Satanism, or they will be executed (Revelation 13:4-18; 1 John 2:22; 2 John 1:7).
Also, even though Jews today do not go around killing people for religious reasons, by the time that the Antichrist declares himself God, some ultra-Orthodox Jews led by a miracle-working false "Messiah" in Israel might also feel inspired to try to kill the Antichrist for blasphemy, especially when he will commit it (at least one time) even within their own (future) temple (2 Thessalonians 2:4) in Jerusalem, and he will defile that temple (Daniel 11:31,36, Matthew 24:15). The Antichrist could also sit in every other religion's holiest shrine and declare himself God there as well. For example, he could also sit (at least one time) in Islam's Kaaba in Mecca, in the Sikhs' Golden Temple in Amritsar, in Catholicism's St. Peter's Basilica in the Vatican, etc. This could result in the radical adherents of every religion becoming so enraged at the Antichrist that they will all attempt to assassinate him. But they will all fail to defeat him, for he will not be defeated until he is cast alive into the lake of fire and brimstone at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming (2 Thessalonians 2:8-9, Revelation 19:20).
(See also the "Dajjal" section below)
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(Re: During the future Tribulation, if the Antichrist is killed and comes back to life and says that he is God, could the Muslims think that the Koran is wrong in saying that no man can be God?)
Many moderate Muslims could become convinced by the future Antichrist's miracle-working False Prophet (of Revelation 19:20) that the early manuscripts of the Koran were partially corrupted by men, so that many Muslims will accept whatever the False Prophet tells them is correct and incorrect in the Koran. He could do the same thing with many Christians regarding the Bible.
(See Revelation 13:11 below)
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(Re: The *Dajjal)
In Muslim prophecy, besides the Mahdi there is also "The Masih ad-Dajjal", or "The False Messiah", whom Muslims say will appear in the end times. While Bible prophecy shows that in our future there will be multiple false Messiahs who will be able to perform amazing miracles (Matthew 24:24), Muslims could focus on one of these, a miracle-working, ultra-Orthodox Jewish false "Messiah" in Israel as being "The Masih ad-Dajjal", after he declares himself to be the Messiah, but then (with his ultra-Orthodox Jewish followers) destroys the Muslim Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque (the third-holiest sites in Islam) on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, to clear the site for the building of a third Jewish temple.
It could be this destruction of the Muslim Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque, by a man whom the Muslims could declare to be "The Masih ad-Dajjal", which will give rise to the all-out war in which another man, an Arab who could be the first man whom the Muslims will declare to be the Mahdi, will completely defeat and occupy Israel (Daniel 11:15-17).
(See the "War" section of Revelation 13:5 below. Also, see Daniel 9:26 above)
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(Re: *Not RCC) / (*RCC)
The future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast"), during his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5-18), will not support Catholicism in its past and current form, insofar as Catholicism affirms that Jesus is the Christ, while the Antichrist will deny that Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22). And Catholicism affirms that Jesus is the Son of God, while the Antichrist will deny that Jesus is the Son of God (1 John 2:22b). And Catholicism affirms that Christ is in the flesh, while the Antichrist (like the Gnostics) will deny that Christ is in the flesh (2 John 1:7). And Catholicism affirms that the God of the Bible (YHWH) is the true God, while the Antichrist (like the Gnostics) will utterly revile YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36). And Catholicism affirms that the only man who is God is Jesus Christ of Nazareth, while the Antichrist will say that he (the Antichrist) is God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). And Catholicism affirms that Lucifer (Satan) is evil, while the Antichrist will bring the world into the conscious and open worship of Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9). So the future Antichrist's religion, during his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign, will not be Catholicism in its past and current form, but a blend of Gnosticism and Luciferianism, also called Satanism.
Nonetheless, before Lucifer gives the Antichrist power over all nations (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9), the Antichrist, and the man who will be his False Prophet (Revelation 19:20) (who could be a secretly apostate pope), could at first pretend to support Catholicism (as well as Christianity generally, and also Islam), in order to start gaining a worldwide following.
(See Revelation 13:11 below. Also, see section 1 of Revelation 13:4 above)
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(Re: Have you fallen for *Jesuit futurism?)
Note that no Jesuit says that a pope could be secretly apostate and become the future Antichrist's False Prophet of Revelation 19:20, or that the RCC (like all other churches) has corrupt aspects which are included in what the symbolic harlot "Babylon" of Revelation chapters 17-18 represents.
The fact remains that the future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") will not support Catholicism in its past and current form, during his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (of Revelation 13:5-18), for all of the Biblical (not Jesuitical) reasons given in the section above.
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(Re: The death toll attributable to the Reformers, while indefensible, is an infinitesimal fraction of the fifty million or more slaughtered over more than 1,200 years by the papacy)
Can you quote the original historical records which support the claim of fifty million deaths, so we can see what they say?
Also, how many people does the RCC claim that it killed, and how has this claim been proven too low from original historical records?
Also, what is the RCC's current view regarding the Wars and Inquisitions of the Reformation and Counter-Reformation?
Also, why is not the papacy killing anyone today if it is the Antichrist, as the Reformers mistakenly thought?
Or did the papacy stop being the Antichrist at some point, according to current Reformed doctrine?
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(Re: The argument that "Protestantism is no different than the Inquisition" is dead on departure)
Note that it is not, insofar as both employed (in your own words) "indefensible" killings of people who disagreed with them doctrinally (e.g. Servetus).
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(Re: The last known explicit public affirmation that the papacy is Christ/God was by John Paul II back in the 1990s: "Have no fear when people call me the 'Vicar of Christ,' when they say to me 'Holy Father,' or 'Your Holiness,' or use titles similar to these, which seem even inimical to the Gospel.")
While those three titles are each inimical to specific teachings in the Bible (1 Timothy 2:5, Matthew 23:9, Luke 18:19), none of those titles is claiming that the papacy is Christ/God. Nor do any of those titles contradict the Gospel by which Christians are saved from hell (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).
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(Re: Pope Pius XI, 1922: "You know that I am the Holy Father, the representative of God on earth, the Vicar of Christ, which means that I am God on the earth.")
Note that he had just finished saying that he was only "the representative" of God on the earth. So he was not claiming equality with God, but meant that his authority was the same as God's on the earth. While this claim was absurd, it is different than the claim of the future Antichrist, who will say that he is God Himself (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36).
(See 2 Thessalonians 2:4 above)
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(Re: If the Reformers had not checked the papacy, we would still be under its tyranny today)
Not necessarily, for the RCC on its own could have eventually given rise to a Gorbachev-like pope, that is, one who instituted reforms which ultimately led to the withering-away of the papacy, like how Gorbachev's reforms in the USSR ultimately led to its withering away.
Also, your argument is like that of non-pacifists who say that America would still be under the tyranny of Britain if the Founding Fathers had not become violent in the American Revolution.
(See "the U.S.'s Founding Fathers rebelled against YHWH" under Revelation 13:5 below)
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(Re: The *Druze)
The future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") could have grown up as a Druze Arab, in Lebanon, in the modern city of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:4). So he could at first present himself to the world as being of the (quasi-Islamic) Druze religion, which is waiting for the second coming of a God-man named Hakim. The Antichrist's last name could be Hakim, and he could at first present himself to the Druze people as the second coming of this God-man. In this way, he could get the Druze people to support him without question during an initial rise to power among the Arabs. The Druze Arabs could be the numerically "small people" of Daniel 11:23. The Antichrist could make them his completely devoted bodyguard, and buy them many key positions of power within a future, United Arab States (which the Antichrist could become the leader of in the first stage of his world takeover), and employ Druze people as loyal spies and assassins at every level of his United Arab government and military.
The Druze religion is very secretive. What it teaches to its higher-level initiates is not even taught to its lower-level initiates. What it could teach to its higher-level initiates could basically be Gnosticism mixed in with the Hakim God-man idea. The Antichrist himself, while outwardly a Druze, could inwardly be a Gnostic Luciferian, that is, a Satanist. He could be a highest-level initiate of a worldwide secret society which ultimately teaches Satanism, but keeps this a secret even from its own members who have not yet been initiated into its highest level.
(See also the "Cabal" section of Revelation 13:5 below)
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(Re: *Not Judaism) / (*Not Jew) / (*Dan - tribe)
The future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast"), during his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5-18), will not support Judaism in its past and current form, insofar as Judaism worships YHWH (Deuteronomy 6:4-5), while the Antichrist will utterly revile YHWH (Daniel 11:36, Revelation 13:5). And Judaism rejects Lucifer/Satan as being evil (Zechariah 3:2, Isaiah 14:12), while the Antichrist will bring the world into the conscious and open worship of Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9). And Judaism forbids the worship of any images (Leviticus 26:1), while the Antichrist will have an image made of himself to be worshipped (Revelation 13:15).
Regarding the idea of the Antichrist being Jewish by blood, both of his parents could be Arabs (if his mother was not impregnated by Satan himself). But from some long-ago ancestor, the Antichrist could also have some Jewish blood in him, from the tribe of Dan (Genesis 49:17), which could be the reason that the tribe of Dan is not included in the twelve tribes of the 144,000 (Revelation 7:4-8; there, "Joseph" stands for Ephraim: Numbers 1:32, Psalms 78:67, Ezekiel 37:16b,19).
(See the "Druze" section above. Also, see Revelation 7:4 above)
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(Re: How can Satan himself impregnate anyone? Are you accrediting him with God's power?)
It is possible that God could have let Satan himself wrongly employ his free will to impregnate a woman, who then gave birth to the Antichrist, just as God lets unmarried men wrongly employ their free will to impregnate unmarried women, who then give birth to children out of wedlock, and just as Genesis 6:2,4 could mean that God let some fallen angels wrongly employ their free will to impregnate some women, who then gave birth to hybrid human/angelic children who grew up to be mighty giants.
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(Re: Is the tribe of Dan excluded from the 144,000 because Dan was steeped in idolatry, and was one of the two tribes that was, and so both are not in the 144,000?)
Note that all of the tribes of Israel became steeped in idolatry (Ezekiel 6:5, Ezekiel 8:10, Ezekiel 14:5). And Dan is the only tribe not in the list of Revelation 7:5-8. There, "Joseph" stands for Ephraim (Numbers 1:32, Psalms 78:67, Ezekiel 37:16b,19).
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(Re: *Not Christ)
Note that "anti"-Christ can simply mean anyone who is "against" the true Christ, as in any "opponent of the Messiah" (Strong's Greek Dictionary, Word #500: antichristos), as in anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22), or denies that Jesus is the human/divine Son of God (1 John 2:22b), or denies that Christ is in the flesh (2 John 1:7). The spirit of antichrist (1 John 4:3) has been working since the first century AD (2 Thessalonians 2:7), animating many antichrists since that time (1 John 2:18; 2 John 1:7).
And note that nothing requires that the future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") will ever claim to be the Messiah/Christ. For his antichrist denial that Christ is in the flesh (1 John 4:3) will disqualify him as a mortal-flesh human (under his Gnostic doctrine) from being Christ. Instead, the non-mortal-flesh Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) could be the false Christ (that is, the "Lucifer" Christ, and not the "Jesus" Christ: 1 John 2:22) during the future Antichrist's literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9), which will be in the latter half of the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24.
But none of this means that there will not also be multiple, human false Christs who will arise during the future Tribulation (Matthew 24:24), including one who will be an ultra-Orthodox Jewish false Christ/Messiah. For shortly after the start of the Tribulation the Antichrist could "cut" a peace treaty with an ultra-Orthodox Jewish false "Messiah" (Daniel 9:26a, Daniel 11:22-23a) in Israel, promising this false Messiah and his ultra-Orthodox Jewish followers that they can keep for at least seven years (Daniel 9:27a) a third Jewish temple (Revelation 11:1) which they will have built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
(See also Daniel 9:26 above)
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(Re: *Not Jesus)
When Satan (Lucifer, the dragon) is cast down to the earth permanently at the midpoint of the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Revelation 12:9,12), he will not claim to be "Jesus" Christ, just as the separate Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast", the man of sin: 2 Thessalonians 2:3b-4,9, Revelation 13:4-18) will not claim that Lucifer (or claim that he, the Antichrist) is "Jesus" Christ. For "anti"-Christ means someone who denies that Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22).
(See also the first "not Satan" section of Revelation 13:5 below)
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(Re: *Not YHWH)
The Antichrist will not say that he is YHWH, but will utterly revile YHWH (Daniel 11:36, Revelation 13:6). For the Antichrist will be a Gnostic (1 John 4:3), and Gnostics revile YHWH. At the same time, the Antichrist will be a Luciferian, a Satanist, for he will bring the world into the conscious and open worship of Lucifer/Satan the dragon (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9). Luciferians mistakenly revile YHWH as being evil, while YHWH rightly rebukes Lucifer/Satan as being evil (Zechariah 3:2, Isaiah 14:12-15).
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(Re: *Not all religions)
It is sometimes said that the future Antichrist will manage to serve all non-Christians' desires about religion. But the truth is that during the literal 3.5-year worldwide reign of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast"), in the power of Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9), Lucifer and the Antichrist will not use their power to serve all non-Christians' desires about religion. For example, some non-Christians, atheists, desire no religion, no God. But atheists (just as everyone else) will be forced to worship Lucifer, the Antichrist, and an image of the Antichrist on the pain of death (Revelation 13:4-17). Also, Muslims desire to worship only Allah, and desire to reject Lucifer/Satan, and desire not to worship any images. But they (just as everyone else) will be forced to worship Lucifer, the Antichrist, and his image. Also, religious Jews desire to worship only YHWH, and desire to reject Lucifer/Satan, and desire not to worship any images. But they (just as everyone else) will be forced to worship Lucifer, the Antichrist, and his image. And so on, through all of the other religions which have tenets directly opposed to the Antichrist's religion of Gnostic Luciferianism, also called Satanism.
But Buddhism and Hinduism have some core tenets which are in full accord with the Antichrist's religion.
(See the "Buddhism" and "Gnosticism" sections of 1 John 4:3 above)
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(*42 months)
Regarding the 42 months, 1,260 days, and "a time, and times, and half a time", they are all the same time period in the prophecies of Revelation 13:5, Revelation 11:2-3, Revelation 12:6,14, Daniel 7:25, and Daniel 12:7. They will be 1,260 literal days, just as, for example, the three days in the fulfilled prophecies of Luke 9:22 and Luke 18:33 were literal days, and the three days in the fulfilled prophecies of Genesis 40:13 and Genesis 40:19 were literal days. Similarly, the seventy years in the fulfilled prophecy of Jeremiah 29:10 (Daniel 9:2) were literal years (Zechariah 7:5), and the 400 years in the fulfilled prophecy of Genesis 15:13 were literal years.
The literal 1,260-day time period will be the time of the Antichrist's Luciferian/Satanic worldwide reign of terror (Revelation 13:4-18, Revelation 12:9), which time period is shown from four different angles in Revelation chapters 11 to 14 (Revelation 11:2b-3, Revelation 12:6,14, Revelation 13:5,7, Revelation 14:9-13). The myriad details of these chapters have never been fulfilled, not even during a past time period of 1,260 years, as historicism mistakenly claims. But these details must be fulfilled (Revelation 1:1). So they will be fulfilled in our future, after the also-never-fulfilled details of Revelation chapters 6 to 10 are fulfilled in our future.
(See the "Details" section of Revelation chapters 6 to 22 (Overview) above)
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(Re: The Antichrist's *Career)
The Antichrist may not appear on the world stage until after the future, horrible, Tribulation-starting war of Revelation 6:4-8 and Daniel 11:15-17 has resulted in the total defeat and occupation of Israel, and Egypt, and the death of one-fourth of the world (Revelation 6:8). It could be this war which will help open the way for the Antichrist to arise on the world stage as a great man of peace and antitypically fulfill the "vile person" of Daniel 11:21-45.
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