Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote

[brinny]

Hillary doesn't deserve anyone's vote.

This.

 

[stamperben]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/11/polit...ressional-black-caucus-endorsement/index.html

Congressional Black Caucus PAC stands behind Clinton

Noting that this is NOT the Congressional Black Caucus.

 

[JustOneWay]

Noting that this is NOT the Congressional Black Caucus.

Congressional Black Caucus to formally endorse Clinton on Thursday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ucus-to-formally-endorse-clinton-on-thursday/

On Thursday morning, the CBC’s leaders said they will appear at a club adjacent to the Democratic National Committee to formally endorse Clinton for president, through the CBC political action committee

You were saying?

 

[stamperben]

Congressional Black Caucus to formally endorse Clinton on Thursday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ucus-to-formally-endorse-clinton-on-thursday/


You were saying?

This is Friday. What happened?

 

[JustOneWay]

This is Friday. What happened?

On Thursday morning, the CBC’s leaders said they will appear at a club adjacent to the Democratic National Committee to formally endorse Clinton for president, through the CBC political action committee

 

[stamperben]

REP. BARBARA LEE: Amy, first of all, I want to make it clear there’s a clear distinction between the Congressional Black Caucus and the Congressional Black Caucus PAC. We actually have a Republican in the Congressional Black Caucus. I don’t want the viewers, your viewers, to believe that the Congressional Black Caucus and the Congressional Black Caucus PAC are one and the same.​

As Congressional Black Caucus PAC Prepares to Back Clinton, Barbara Lee Withholds Endorsement

 

[stamperben]

On Thursday morning, the CBC’s leaders said they will appear at a club adjacent to the Democratic National Committee to formally endorse Clinton for president, through the CBC political action committee

It's really disingenuous to try to conflate the two groups as being the same, especially after you posted this:

Congressional Black Caucus to formally endorse Clinton on Thursday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ucus-to-formally-endorse-clinton-on-thursday/


You were saying?

It is clear that the CBC did not endorse her.

 

[Thursday]

http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-does-not-deserve-black-peoples-votes/

.............Black voters have been remarkably loyal to the Clintons for more than 25 years. It’s true that we eventually lined up behind Barack Obama in 2008, but it’s a measure of the Clinton allure that Hillary led Obama among black voters until he started winning caucuses and primaries. Now Hillary is running again. This time she’s facing a democratic socialist who promises a political revolution that will bring universal healthcare, a living wage, an end to rampant Wall Street greed, and the dismantling of the vast prison state—many of the same goals that Martin Luther King Jr. championed at the end of his life. Even so, black folks are sticking with the Clinton brand.

What have the Clintons done to earn such devotion? Did they take extreme political risks to defend the rights of African Americans? Did they courageously stand up to right-wing demagoguery about black communities? Did they help usher in a new era of hope and prosperity for neighborhoods devastated by deindustrialization, globalization, and the disappearance of work?

No. Quite the opposite.

* * *

When Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, urban black communities across America were suffering from economic collapse. Hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs had vanished as factories moved overseas in search of cheaper labor, a new plantation. Globalization and deindustrialization affected workers of all colors but hit African Americans particularly hard. Unemployment rates among young black men had quadrupled as the rate of industrial employment plummeted. Crime rates spiked in inner-city communities that had been dependent on factory jobs, while hopelessness, despair, and crack addiction swept neighborhoods that had once been solidly working-class. Millions of black folks—many of whom had fled Jim Crow segregation in the South with the hope of obtaining decent work in Northern factories—were suddenly trapped in racially segregated, jobless ghettos. ....................................

No democrat deserves the black vote. Blacks have done terrible under Democrat administrations.

Democrats have allowed millions of illegal immigrants to take jobs and suppress the wages of black Americans.

 

[JustOneWay]

It's really disingenuous to try to conflate the two groups as being the same, especially after you posted this:
It is clear that the CBC did not endorse her.

Clear? It is as clear as day that the CBC endorsed Clinton, through the PAC....

On Thursday morning, the CBC’s leaders said they will appear at a club adjacent to the Democratic National Committee to formally endorse Clinton for president, through the CBC political action committee

 

[JustOneWay]

No democrat deserves the black vote. Blacks have done terrible under Democrat administrations.

Democrats have allowed millions of illegal immigrants to take jobs and suppress the wages of black Americans.

False.

 

[JustOneWay]

Sorry, stamperben, but the CBC is rejecting Sanders.

 

[Thursday]

False.

By every key economic measurement, blacks are worse off under Obama. In some cases, far worse off.

What about poverty? In 2009, when Obama took office, the black poverty rate was 25.8 percent. As of 2014, according to Pew Research Center, the black poverty rate was 27.2 percent.

What about income? CNNMoney says, "Minority households' median income fell 9 percent between 2010 and 2013, compared to a drop of only 1 percent for whites." The Financial Times wrote last October: "Since 2009, median non-white household income has dropped by almost a 10th to $33,000 a year, according to the U.S. Federal Reserve's survey of consumer finances. As a whole, median incomes fell by 5 percent. But by the more telling measure of net wealth -- assets minus liabilities -- the numbers offer a more troubling story."


What about net worth and the black-white "wealth gap"? The Financial Times said: "The median non-white family today has a net worth of just $18,100 -- almost a fifth lower than it was when Mr. Obama took office. White median wealth, on the other hand, has inched up by 1 percent to $142,000. In 2009, white households were seven times richer than their black counterparts. That gap is now eightfold. Both in relative and absolute terms, blacks are doing worse under Mr. Obama." Remember, these numbers apply to all "non-whites." For blacks, it's worse.

http://townhall.com/columnists/larr...s-are-worse-off--far-worse-n2028985/page/full

 

[stamperben]

Clear? It is as clear as day that the CBC endorsed Clinton, through the PAC....

On Thursday morning, the CBC’s leaders said they will appear at a club adjacent to the Democratic National Committee to formally endorse Clinton for president, through the CBC political action committee

Look, I'm not going to get into a urination match with you, I'll just point out the link above where Congressman Lee tells of the difference between the two groups. If you wish to have any credibility on what you report as "fact" I would encourage you to educate yourself on the matter.

Enjoy the day - It's Friday after all.

 

[JustOneWay]

By every key economic measurement, blacks are worse off under Obama. In some cases, far worse off.

What about poverty? In 2009, when Obama took office, the black poverty rate was 25.8 percent. As of 2014, according to Pew Research Center, the black poverty rate was 27.2 percent.

What about income? CNNMoney says, "Minority households' median income fell 9 percent between 2010 and 2013, compared to a drop of only 1 percent for whites." The Financial Times wrote last October: "Since 2009, median non-white household income has dropped by almost a 10th to $33,000 a year, according to the U.S. Federal Reserve's survey of consumer finances. As a whole, median incomes fell by 5 percent. But by the more telling measure of net wealth -- assets minus liabilities -- the numbers offer a more troubling story."


What about net worth and the black-white "wealth gap"? The Financial Times said: "The median non-white family today has a net worth of just $18,100 -- almost a fifth lower than it was when Mr. Obama took office. White median wealth, on the other hand, has inched up by 1 percent to $142,000. In 2009, white households were seven times richer than their black counterparts. That gap is now eightfold. Both in relative and absolute terms, blacks are doing worse under Mr. Obama." Remember, these numbers apply to all "non-whites." For blacks, it's worse.

http://townhall.com/columnists/larr...s-are-worse-off--far-worse-n2028985/page/full

Other than simply saying Obama, do you know of the specific reasons the black community has done worse?

 

[stamperben]

Other than simply saying Obama, do you know of the specific reasons the black community has done worse?

Rising income inequality might have something to do with it.

but then, all the conservatives have is Obama. Noticed how they are not running against each other, but seem to want to run against him?

 

[Thursday]

Other than simply saying Obama, do you know of the specific reasons the black community has done worse?

As I already mentioned, illegal immigration has played a role.

In addition, Obama has consistently attacked manufacturing jobs with increasing regulations, Obamacare, and taxes.

 

[JustOneWay]

Look, I'm not going to get into a urination match with you, I'll just point out the link above where Congressman Lee tells of the difference between the two groups. If you wish to have any credibility on what you report as "fact" I would encourage you to educate yourself on the matter.

Enjoy the day - It's Friday after all.

LOL It is too bad you went there with the credibility. I have defended you time and again, and this is how you treat me?

The Congressional Black Caucus (CBC), minus influential
Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC), will reportedly rush to Hillary Clinton’s defense on Thursday when its leaders will endorse Clinton at the Democratic National Committee through its political action committee.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/10/3001148/

Have a good life

 

[JustOneWay]

As I already mentioned, illegal immigration has played a role.

In addition, Obama has consistently attacked manufacturing jobs with increasing regulations, Obamacare, and taxes.

No it has not. If an American wants a job they can get one. This blaming illegals for American laziness is so misinformed.

BTW, illegal immigration has decreased under Obama....because of the terrible economy....
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politics/fact-check-immigration/

 

[Thursday]

No it has not. If an American wants a job they can get one. This blaming illegals for American laziness is so misinformed.

BTW, illegal immigration has decreased under Obama....because of the terrible economy....
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politics/fact-check-immigration/

Illegal immigration depresses wages and increase unemployment for citizens. That's a reality you can't spin away.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Black voters have been loyal to Democrats for 50 years, and that includes the Clintons.

Black people will continue to vote for Democrats because Democrats are the party of minorities in America.

After seeing 8 years that republicans called Obama every name in the book, the republicans have a very slim chance of getting the black vote.

...but even among democrats:

The Clintons seem to do much better than other Democratic candidates...I think that's what the other posters were making reference to...