Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote

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http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-does-not-deserve-black-peoples-votes/

.............Black voters have been remarkably loyal to the Clintons for more than 25 years. It’s true that we eventually lined up behind Barack Obama in 2008, but it’s a measure of the Clinton allure that Hillary led Obama among black voters until he started winning caucuses and primaries. Now Hillary is running again. This time she’s facing a democratic socialist who promises a political revolution that will bring universal healthcare, a living wage, an end to rampant Wall Street greed, and the dismantling of the vast prison state—many of the same goals that Martin Luther King Jr. championed at the end of his life. Even so, black folks are sticking with the Clinton brand.

What have the Clintons done to earn such devotion? Did they take extreme political risks to defend the rights of African Americans? Did they courageously stand up to right-wing demagoguery about black communities? Did they help usher in a new era of hope and prosperity for neighborhoods devastated by deindustrialization, globalization, and the disappearance of work?

No. Quite the opposite.

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When Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, urban black communities across America were suffering from economic collapse. Hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs had vanished as factories moved overseas in search of cheaper labor, a new plantation. Globalization and deindustrialization affected workers of all colors but hit African Americans particularly hard. Unemployment rates among young black men had quadrupled as the rate of industrial employment plummeted. Crime rates spiked in inner-city communities that had been dependent on factory jobs, while hopelessness, despair, and crack addiction swept neighborhoods that had once been solidly working-class. Millions of black folks—many of whom had fled Jim Crow segregation in the South with the hope of obtaining decent work in Northern factories—were suddenly trapped in racially segregated, jobless ghettos. ....................................
 
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Black voters have been loyal to Democrats for 50 years, and that includes the Clintons.

Black people will continue to vote for Democrats because Democrats are the party of minorities in America.

After seeing 8 years that republicans called Obama every name in the book, the republicans have a very slim chance of getting the black vote.
 
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Black voters have been loyal to Democrats for 50 years, and that includes the Clintons.

Black people will continue to vote for Democrats because Democrats are the party of minorities in America.

After seeing 8 years that republicans called Obama every name in the book, the republicans have a very slim chance of getting the black vote.
Sanders is ALSO a democrat, soooooooo..........again just what has HRC done to deserve the black vote?
 
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Sanders is ALSO a democrat, soooooooo..........again just what has HRC done to deserve the black vote?
Your topic is about Clinton, not Sanders. However, I am sure the black vote will still go to Sanders if Clinton is not the nominee.

The point is not what Clinton has done to deserve the black vote, the issue is that has the republican party done to deserve the black vote? If you really want to discuss this issue, then we need to analyze the differences between the democrats and republicans which has led black voters to vote mostly democrat.
 
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Your topic is about Clinton, not Sanders. However, I am sure the black vote will still go to Sanders if Clinton is not the nominee.

The point is not what Clinton has done to deserve the black vote, the issue is that has the republican party done to deserve the black vote? If you really want to discuss this issue, then we need to analyze the differences between the democrats and republicans which has led black voters to vote mostly democrat.
No... The issue really is what Clinton and her husband have done to the black community and just how that translates to the Dem primaries. Take her support from the private prison industry for example... Or any of the issues Ms. Alexander wrote of in the piece. Did you even read it?
 
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No... The issue really is what Clinton and her husband have done to the black community and just how that translates to the Dem primaries. Take her support from the private prison industry for example... Or any of the issues Ms. Alexander wrote of in the piece. Did you even read it?
Yes I did. Bill Clinton admitted that his policies made things worse, and Hillary has distanced herself from those days.

I prefer to discuss what the Clinton's want to do today, not what Bill did twenty years ago.

Which brings me back to the real issue of what do the republicans have to offer? Tough love and a prayer....
 
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Yes I did. Bill Clinton admitted that his policies made things worse, and Hillary has distanced herself from those days.

I prefer to discuss what the Clinton's want to do today, not what Bill did twenty years ago.

Which brings me back to the real issue of what do the republicans have to offer? Tough love and a prayer....
You may not want to discuss history, and you seem to not want to discuss Hillary's comfort with taking money from the prison industry TODAY, but history DOES count. Much.

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You may not want to discuss history, and you seem to not want to discuss Hillary's comfort with taking money from the prison industry TODAY, but history DOES count. Much.

Then I suggest you don't vote for Hillary Clinton.

Plus she killed 4 people in Benghazi and gave away above top secrets to the highest bidder.... only because ghosts of First Ladies past told he to do these things. Oh and she is a lousy wife for staying with her husband.
 
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I quote from the piece...
But what about a larger agenda that would not just reverse some of the policies adopted during the Clinton era, but would rebuild the communities decimated by them? If you listen closely here, you’ll notice that Hillary Clinton is still singing the same old tune in a slightly different key. She is arguing that we ought not be seduced by Bernie’s rhetoric because we must be “pragmatic,” “face political realities,” and not get tempted to believe that we can fight for economic justice and win. When politicians start telling you that it is “unrealistic” to support candidates who want to build a movement for greater equality, fair wages, universal healthcare, and an end to corporate control of our political system, it’s probably best to leave the room.
 
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You may not want to discuss history, and you seem to not want to discuss Hillary's comfort with taking money from the prison industry TODAY, but history DOES count. Much.

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This is so awesome. Pointing out a republican presidential candidate was AGAINST the Civil Rights Act is ok as long as it makes a Clinton look bad. (Or was it a Rodham that was the Goldwater Girl?)
 
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This is so awesome. Pointing out a republican presidential candidate was AGAINST the Civil Rights Act is ok as long as it makes a Clinton look bad. (Or was it a Rodham that was the Goldwater Girl?)
It is what it is.
 
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It is what it is.
I always hear Republicans talking about how much they supported the Act and it was the Democrats that were the bad people during the Civil Right Era
 
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I always hear Republicans talking about how much they supported the Act and it was the Democrats that were the bad people during the Civil Right Era
Sadly, I have to post once again that it was not a repub vs dem issue, it was a north vs south issue. Virtually all repubs and dems in the north voted for Civil Rights Act while virtually all repubs and dems in the south voted against Civil Rights Act.
 
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Sadly, I have to post once again that it was not a repub vs dem issue, it was a north vs south issue. Virtually all repubs and dems in the north voted for Civil Rights Act while virtually all repubs and dems in the south voted against Civil Rights Act.

Is that why if you go to where I lived in Alabama as a teenager and scrape the Trump bumper sticker off my old neighbors pick-em-up truck you will find Bush sticker over a Dole sticker over a Bush sticker over a Reagan sticker over a Mondale sticker over a Carter sticker? The trailer, truck and confederate flag are all the same, only the sticker has changed.
 
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/11/polit...ressional-black-caucus-endorsement/index.html

Congressional Black Caucus PAC stands behind Clinton


"One of the individuals that has been with us time and time again has been Hillary Clinton," New York Rep. Gregory Meeks, chair of the Congressional Black Caucus Political Action Committee, told CNN's Carol Costello on "Newsroom." "She has been, her whole career, an individual that has been fighting for issues that are important to the African-American community."

Meeks called endorsing Clinton "the right thing to do."

"Black folks are not dumb. They come out for individuals that have their best interest at heart," he said.
 
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