Awakened Sin
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Well, I'm Christian and I believe in evolution. We all don't fit on that boat.
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I think i know some key ideas. Its because it undermines the creation story and that people will become irreligious?
Well wouldnt that be an issue about the idea of the earth is flat if the bible is literal on that part i mean?
What i mean is that science explains our physicial world. The main point i am making is that Creation Story had two interpretations in medieval ages. Allegory" basically a deeper meaning than it is. Or "Literally" like just like it is written.
So basically allegory seems to be the key point then. Since that can be used. Since God is outside our understanding. Science is a method just to understand the world we live in more or less.
So i dont see the problem with evolution, because it doesnt undermine the scripture in the sense of it not being true?
Although i do believe its a shame that more people who lack understanding go away because of ignorance and just dont bother trying to understand why Christianity is a religion to help your life.
But i am curious to what you think?
This is very true, which is hard for me to understand how followers of Jesus could disagree so vehemently with what Jesus taught.3) Jesus was a creationist. In fact, he was a young earth creationist. He not only believed that Adam and Eve were created and didn't evolve, he also believed Adam and Eve were created in the "beginning of creation." This doesn't work with modern scientific models which have human beings appearing on the scene very late in world history.
Well, I'm Christian and I believe in evolution. We all don't fit on that boat.
I think there are a lot of Christians who believe in Evolution. And I think they are true Christians. But think about this. What effect will this have on the next generation? What affect will it have on kids growing up in the Church?
Statistics show that as belief in evolution increases, belief in essential doctrines, like he resurrection, decrease. This was found in a couple of Harris polls done over 10 years. They're noting that the youth are turning away from the Church in huge numbers, and I believe it's because their parents are compromising on the Bible. The parents are telling there kids they don't believe most of the Bible, and then are wondering why their kids don't believe any of it.
So yes, you might be a Christian, but what message are you sending to others when you tell them you don't believe your Bible?
I don't think it is because it undermines creation but undermines the character of God. I believe that a perfect God would use His creation perfectly, allowing His laws to dictate creation on certain levels. This doesn't imply that He isn't a part of every aspect of every part of His creation but that He is a part of every aspect of every part of His creation. Many "Christians" take issue with "time" in the bible. For example, Gap Theory believes that there are two creation events in Genesis and that creation days are literally 24 hour days. Young Earth theory also says that each of the six days of creation were literally 24 hour days yet the seventh day is not a 24 hour day. Very contradictory, especially when you understand God's basic laws, particularly the speed of light and the expansion. Also, there is the fact that scripture says a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day. I guess my question to someone who believes in Gap or Young Earth theory would be how do you reconcile literal 24 hour days when a literal 24 hour day wasn't "literally" defined as 24 hours...and then to turn it around and say that the seventh day is thousands of years, the same day we are living in now. These theories were introduced between the 18th and 20th centuries. Were these "theorists" more intelligent than those writing scripture thousands of years ago? Maybe in their arrogant heads they were and of course in our technologically advanced age our societal narcissism dictates our false sense of truth. We celebrate a computer beating a chess champion and then say "see we are gods and there is no God above us!" yet all God had to do was breath one breath into the nostrils of man for him to exist in the first place.I think i know some key ideas. Its because it undermines the creation story and that people will become irreligious?
Well wouldnt that be an issue about the idea of the earth is flat if the bible is literal on that part i mean?
What i mean is that science explains our physicial world. The main point i am making is that Creation Story had two interpretations in medieval ages. Allegory" basically a deeper meaning than it is. Or "Literally" like just like it is written.
So basically allegory seems to be the key point then. Since that can be used. Since God is outside our understanding. Science is a method just to understand the world we live in more or less.
So i dont see the problem with evolution, because it doesnt undermine the scripture in the sense of it not being true?
Although i do believe its a shame that more people who lack understanding go away because of ignorance and just dont bother trying to understand why Christianity is a religion to help your life.
But i am curious to what you think?
It doesn't just undermine the creation "story", it undermines the reason for creating us. It undermines God's purpose, and it's inconsistent with what God would do. Therefore, your conclusion that it's simply a matter of allegory is incorrect. If we're just another evolved species, then we're just like any other animal, but it takes vary little observation to see that isn't the case.I think i know some key ideas. Its because it undermines the creation story and that people will become irreligious?
Well wouldnt that be an issue about the idea of the earth is flat if the bible is literal on that part i mean?
What i mean is that science explains our physicial world. The main point i am making is that Creation Story had two interpretations in medieval ages. Allegory" basically a deeper meaning than it is. Or "Literally" like just like it is written.
So basically allegory seems to be the key point then. Since that can be used. Since God is outside our understanding. Science is a method just to understand the world we live in more or less.
So i dont see the problem with evolution, because it doesnt undermine the scripture in the sense of it not being true?
Although i do believe its a shame that more people who lack understanding go away because of ignorance and just dont bother trying to understand why Christianity is a religion to help your life.
But i am curious to what you think?
That's just their bluff.
You can not test speciation over millions of years.
The fossil record doesn't help the idea either.
You're entitled to believe what you want, but why do you believe evolution?Well, I'm Christian and I believe in evolution. We all don't fit on that boat.
Evolution NEEDS millions of years, just to work in 'theory'. Millions of years don't fit anywhere in Genesis 1. You basically just have to reject the entire creation account in Genesis in order to accept evolution, including God creating the universe at all for that matter.
Are you suggesting God revealed evolution?I think a lot of wise things are been said on this forum on this topic. To me many Christians reject evolution because they haven't thought through the greatest self-revelation we have of God.
...let's not forget though, that even in the churches (from within the organisation, not necessarily the flock) evolution is accepted as truth.Amen!
The spirit of rebellion reigns supreme in men's hearts...
...let's not forget though, that even in the churches (from within the organisation, not necessarily the flock) evolution is accepted as truth.
Teachers take responsibility for the convictions of their students, you see.
I have no denomination.Maybe in your denomination, but not where I attend.
Past me had issues with accepting evolution but I.....evolved
But now I am glad I don't have conflict between my Christian faith and the scientific world.
Evolution believers not only refuse to believe the creation, they reject the story of Noah as well. Jesus mentioned Noah by name as well as the flood that carried them all away. Jesus taught that the flood was real. Evolution believers discount His teaching. Evolution, then, is a rejection of the Scriptures as much as it is an acceptance of scientific theory.