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This thread is to prove your case for or against Conditional Salvation (Which would include the understanding that Justification is wiping the slate clean of one's past sins when a person repents and receives Christ or when they (the believer) confesses and forsakes their sin) (This would also include the acceptance that the word "works" (In certain cases) and the word "Law" in other occasions in the Bible is in reference to the Law of Moses, too).
Personally, I believe in the Biblical View of "Conditional Salvation" that teaches that a true believer who is saved will naturally bring forth a life full of holiness and fruitful works. Now, do not misunderstand me, works are not done to be saved, but they are merely the evidence that you have been saved when one repents and accepts Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior. If a believer sins, they need to immediately confess that sin and forsake it and continue to walk uprightly with their Lord. If a believer continues to abide in unrepentant sin that leads unto death (lying cheating murder etc.) then they are not saved.
So seeing I hold to the Biblical View of "Conditional Salvation", I am naturally against all forms of OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) (or Eternal Security).
OSAS Type #1:
Classic OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) which says you can practice unrepentant sin that leads unto death (Such as lying, murder, hate, fornication, etc.) and yet you can somehow still be saved.
OSAS Type #2:
Mid Range OSAS says that you cannot practice sin otherwise you do not know God. However, abiding in an occasional or small unrepentant sin and then dying in that sin will not necessarily send you to Hell.
OSAS Type #3:
OSAS Lite teaches that you if you practice or continually abide in unrepentant sin then you were never saved to begin with. Meaning that a true believer is characterized by them living righteously. So falling away from the faith would be impossible (Despite the many verses that talk about such a thing). However, another problem with this version of OSAS is that it denies Sinless Perfectionism, too (Like all other forms of OSAS). Meaning, those who hold to this view generally deny that one can stop sinning (or stop in committing those grevious sins or sins that lead unto death like murder, hate, adultery, lying, etc.) in this life. But this is merely an excuse to hold onto the old man and their sin. True repentance is confessing and forsaking one's sin. God does not want us to remain enslave to our sins. Yes, there are people who honestly struggle with sin. But we will not be slaves to our sin in this life if we trust in Christ and allow Him to do the good work in our lives.
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Personally, I believe in the Biblical View of "Conditional Salvation" that teaches that a true believer who is saved will naturally bring forth a life full of holiness and fruitful works. Now, do not misunderstand me, works are not done to be saved, but they are merely the evidence that you have been saved when one repents and accepts Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior. If a believer sins, they need to immediately confess that sin and forsake it and continue to walk uprightly with their Lord. If a believer continues to abide in unrepentant sin that leads unto death (lying cheating murder etc.) then they are not saved.
So seeing I hold to the Biblical View of "Conditional Salvation", I am naturally against all forms of OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) (or Eternal Security).
OSAS Type #1:
Classic OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) which says you can practice unrepentant sin that leads unto death (Such as lying, murder, hate, fornication, etc.) and yet you can somehow still be saved.
OSAS Type #2:
Mid Range OSAS says that you cannot practice sin otherwise you do not know God. However, abiding in an occasional or small unrepentant sin and then dying in that sin will not necessarily send you to Hell.
OSAS Type #3:
OSAS Lite teaches that you if you practice or continually abide in unrepentant sin then you were never saved to begin with. Meaning that a true believer is characterized by them living righteously. So falling away from the faith would be impossible (Despite the many verses that talk about such a thing). However, another problem with this version of OSAS is that it denies Sinless Perfectionism, too (Like all other forms of OSAS). Meaning, those who hold to this view generally deny that one can stop sinning (or stop in committing those grevious sins or sins that lead unto death like murder, hate, adultery, lying, etc.) in this life. But this is merely an excuse to hold onto the old man and their sin. True repentance is confessing and forsaking one's sin. God does not want us to remain enslave to our sins. Yes, there are people who honestly struggle with sin. But we will not be slaves to our sin in this life if we trust in Christ and allow Him to do the good work in our lives.
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