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Life from lifelessness?

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by Steezie, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. Loudmouth

    Loudmouth Contributor

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    I actually agree with you. Creationism has always been impervious to logic, evidence, and reason. The same goes for Moon Landing conspiracy theories, Holocaust denial, Geocentrism, and a whole host of other nonsense.
     
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  2. Naraoia

    Naraoia Apprentice Biologist

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    For once I have to agree with AV :D

    If the 150 years since Darwin haven't convinced creationists, I doubt anything ever will.
     
  3. thaumaturgy

    thaumaturgy New Member

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    Oh when I was a believer, I often thanked God for myself. I mean, I'm a great guy! I coulda done a whole lot worse as someone else.
     
  4. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET Galatians 3:26 Supporter

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    I do hold science up to a higher Standard, since God is the Author of science. And if it's science's job to explain how life began, they're taking too long. After all, why would God simultaneously give us the job of finding out how life began and tell us He is coming back soon? Does that make sense to you? So drop the Rodin Complex, it's working against you.

    p.s. God already explained to us, in writing, how life began.
     
  5. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET Galatians 3:26 Supporter

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    As it should.
     
  6. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET Galatians 3:26 Supporter

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    Well, you weren't alone in thanking yourself, I'm sure.
     
  7. NOTW

    NOTW Senior Member

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    Well, that depends on how you interpret the second-coming.

    Not if it was written metaphorically and in a poetic language. :thumbsup:
    [source]
     
  8. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET Galatians 3:26 Supporter

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    If you think it's written metaphorically, that's your problem; but it does not give you the right to accuse those who don't as "throwing their brains in a trash can." FYI, Jesus didn't interpret Genesis 1 metaphorically, and neither do I, "brother."
     
  9. Nathan Poe

    Nathan Poe New Member

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    Jesus also never once visited a dentist -- did you?
     
  10. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET Galatians 3:26 Supporter

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    No, but I'm sure dentists visit Him regularly --- and He doesn't charge.
     
  11. tanzanos

    tanzanos Guest

    In this forum we have all witnessed what it means when we say: "An exercise in futility".

    Debating with Creationists is like knocking on a deaf man's door. The funny thing is that they also interpret the Bible as they see fit. They go so far as to actually change the bible. They usually give forth their ideas as coming from the lips of God. Frankly speaking ; they would be considered heretics in times past.

    Creationists should stop trying to change the Bible. They should write their own holly book and leave the others book alone; as it should be!

    I side with the Christians against creationists. :D:D:D
     
  12. tanzanos

    tanzanos Guest

    That is the silliest remark I have ever heard. First you state that you hold science to a higher standard then you dismiss science! Once again you show how oxymoron your statements are.

    Science IS feeding this world!

    A few examples of how science helps in securing abundant food:

    Refrigeration
    Weather satellites
    modern agriculture
    fertilizers
    transportation
    Pest control
    Disease control
    irrigation machinery
    etc. etc. Ad infinitum!

    Now go home and write "I SHALL NOT BLASPHEME" 1,000,000 times. You naughty boy:preach:
     
  13. NOTW

    NOTW Senior Member

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    You mean Theistic Evolutionists ? ;)

    :wave:
     
  14. tanzanos

    tanzanos Guest

    No I mean All the Christians worldwide who do not have a problem with science and do not take the Bible in literal terms like the Evangelists in America do.

    Salaam aleikum!
    :wave:
     
  15. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET Galatians 3:26 Supporter

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    If you want to play the "scientists gives us..." trumpcard, start with this list.

    Creationists have given us:

    1. Antiseptic Surgery
    2. Bacteriology
    3. Calculus
    4. Celestial Mechanics
    5. Chemistry
    6. Comparative Anatomy
    7. Computer Science
    8. Dimensional Analysis
    9. Dynamics
    10. Electrodynamics
    11. Electromagnetics
    12. Electronics
    13. Energetics
    14. Entomology of LivingInsects
    15. Field Theory
    16. Fluid Mechanics
    17. Galactic Astronomy
    18. Gas Dynamics
    19. Genetics
    20. Glacial Geology
    21. Gynecology
    22. Hydraulics
    23. Hydrography
    24. Hydrostatics
    25. Ichtyology
    26. Isotopic Chemistry
    27. Model Analysis
    28. Natural History
    29. Non-Euclidean Geometry
    30. Oceanography
    31. Optical Mineralogy
    32. Paleontology
    33. Pathology
    34. Physical Astronomy
    35. ReversibleThermodynamics
    36. Statistical Thermodynamics
    37. Stratigraphy
    38. Systematic Biology
    39. Thermodynamics
    40. Thermokinetics
    41. Vertebrate Paleontology

    In addition, they have given us:

    1. Absolute Temperature Scale
    2. Actuarial Tables
    3. Barometer
    4. Biogenesis Law
    5. Calculating Machine
    6. Chloroform
    7. Classification System
    8. Double Stars
    9. Electric Generator
    10. Electric Motor
    11. Ephemeris Tables
    12. Fermentation Control
    13. Galvanometer
    14. Global Star Catalog
    15. Inert Gases
    16. Kaleidoscope
    17. Law of Gravity
    18. Mine Safety Lamp
    19. Pasteurization
    20. Reflecting Telescope
    21. Scientific Method
    22. Self-Induction
    23. Telegraph
    24. Thermionic Valve
    25. Trans-Atlantic Cable
    26. Vaccination and Immunization

    Is this what you meant by "Etc, etc, ad infinitum"?
     
  16. MoonLancer

    MoonLancer The Moon is a reflection of the MorningStar

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    Thats very tricky word play.

    You realize Tanzanos said "Science" not "Scientist". How is Creation (in your case Genesis 1:1) used to discover or develop any of these things on your list? this should be interesting.

    Science does not switch with Creationist. A Creationist can use science for anything, and they might have in some cases. Its just that they they abandon Science with it conflicts with their belief. Your post proves only your ignorance.

    If you could, I would like you to back up your claims, and go down the list and explain how each is attributed to creationist. I'm going to guess that you did not research this yourself so you will not be able to justify the list itself, but instead you grabbed it from someplace. I could be pleasely surprised though. So do tell. If you do not back up your claim, then its rubbish, and your a lier.
     
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  17. tanzanos

    tanzanos Guest

    I did state that "science gave us". I said nothing of scientists. They could have been gay, blue, hairy, horned, or anything else for all science cares.
    Science gave us all of the above from your list. Creationism had absolutely nothing to do with the above.

    Perhaps we should converse in Greek since you show a poor understanding of the English language.
     
  18. MissionFM

    MissionFM Regular Member

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    Ignorance-you were saying.
     
  19. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET Galatians 3:26 Supporter

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    And who gave us science?
     
  20. MissionFM

    MissionFM Regular Member

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    Maybe you should converse in daycare language, since name calling is what kids do, and I believe you understand that quite well. :thumbsup:
     
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