http://www.tim-taylor.com/papers/twin_studies/studies.html
I'm rather puzzled at the posts. I attended the University of Minnesota that did a lot of the Twin Studies in regards to homosexuality. The research does not "clearly" show that there is no natural link, but rather, through showing the probability that if one twin is gay, the other is 50% like to also be gay. They have researched this with twins raised apart AND raised separately.
Does that prove that homosexuality is genetic. No. That would be 100%. However, 50% does indicate that there is SOME genetic element.
What I don't quite understand about the posts is people insistance to be told over and over again about people like Cameron (still? Really?) that his research has been disproven, and yet, insist on believing it fact. Maybe that would be a good research project itself: why people insist on believing untruths or blantant lies, while claiming to be against the Father of Lies himself.
Back in the 80s, when the research began, most gay people were saying that they were simply born that way, while the conservatives in the churches were in that it was a choice. Once again, they have been proven wrong.
So, then they said, "It's unnatural! It doesn't happen in nature. 'Male and female he made them.' " Research was then done in 1990 that discovered many species that have showed a large number of species that have homosexual behavior. It was "natural." Central Park had two gay penguins.
The response? "But we aren't animals!!" So, we aren't a part of nature? What of the animals? Do some "choose" to become homosexual?
Then they argue: Homosexual parents will create homosexaul children!!!
Really? My parents were straight. My partners parents were straight. I don't think I know of any gay person who had gay parents. So, "The sky is falling! Heterosexual parents raise gay children!"
THEN, they have to link them with pedophiles, or murderers, or rapists.
You can be heterosexual AND a pedophile, murderer, or rapist.
In fast, most are.
However, although I am a homosexual, alas, I can tell the difference between kissing my boyfriend of 40 goodnight, and a person that has sex with a 5 year old. It's very different, and very inappropriate, and usually very damaging for the child. I can tell the difference between making dinner for my partner, and stabbing someone in the chest. Go figur. I can also tell the difference between having consensual sex, and forced sex.
Are anti-gay heterosexuals simply unable to discern the difference between harming a victim, and loving another? Why else would they insist on comparing apples to machine guns?
The will say: God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. That was God's plan!
But it's not a well thought out plan for God. That means that A&E have kids, and then the next generation is reproduced by incest. "Uncle Cain - I mean, Dad..."
They will say: God CLEARRRRLY says that Homosexuality is wrong.
The Bible says nothing about Homosexuality, because "homosexuality" didn't exist - not the way that we define it.
I'm disgusted how many Christians still believe that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by homosexuality (and not a list of other things in the bible. Of the list of sins, "sexual immorality" is listed, and that is not CLEAR about anything.) They won't even acknowledge that the men of the town wanted to rape the angels.
They ingore all of Leviticus except for two verses. They won't look at research on translation, which has already been done for them, and laid out before them on the internet, and then, meditate on it with God, and ask for understanding.
Romans talks of idol worshippers, and even that passage has been turned into mainly about "homosexuality" rather than sexual worship rites.
Greeks had bathhouses for men, and were usually married to women. They didn't even understand the concept of "heterosexual" or "homosexaul" but saw heterosexaul sex as procreation, and homosexual sex as recreation. It was all what men did.
Even looking at history, one can see that in the 1600s, someone who had gay sex was "committing a crime against nature", because they assumed everyone heterosexual, but committed homosexual acts out of perversion. This, in a time of "bloodletting" and using "leeches" to cure people. In the 1800s, "homosexual" was first coined (so, one has to ask how such a word was able to be translated 1800 years prior to its conception.) Prior to 1972, homosexaulity was seen as a mental illness, and subjects were often given shock therapy, etc, with no results, other than harming the subject.
Today, most people understand that homosexuality is an orientation - not an action. It is how one is attracted.
One certainly must choose whether they want to acknowledge that they are gay, and be in a gay relationship, which harms no one, or be abstinant, which only a very, very small minority of the heterosexual population take on (although Paul wishes they all were), or you can be one of those guys I often hear about, who is married, and has sex with men, BUT ISN'T GAY! You will benefit from public approval, and become skillful at being deceitful.
Straight people will often try to guess whether someone is gay or straight. "You can tell", they claim. You can tell a person's actions? Or does "gay" mean someone who is attracted to the same sex, and much better understood now?
So, when I see someone say, "Homosexuality is clearly a choice. The bible clearly says...", all I can think is, "really? Does anyone STILL believe that? Do you still believe that a tan is really good for you, so slather on the Crisco and bake out in the sun? Do you think that bright green shag is a good way to decorate? You have internet, so I'm a bit confused."
One would have to purposely ignore a population (most people know at least one friend, family member or coworker who is gay), ignore relevant research, ignore Scriptural study and translation, and basically seek not the truth at all, but be so dedicated to a lie so as to support ones own hatred for gay people, and think that it is not only justified, but serves God in some way.
So, to that, I say, I'm done. I'm not throwing my pearls before swine.