Daniel's 70 Weeks: a lecture by Steve Gregg

[random person]

If the abomination happens during the 70th week, and Christ was crucified at the end of the 69th week, then you are saying the abomination happened 30 years before 70ad.

That is impossible, a week is only 7 years.

Jesus was crucified after the 69th week. During the 70th week.

The abomination of desolation occurred roughly 33-37 years later. During the disciples' generation.

Premillennialists and dispensationalists believe the 70th week has been suspended now for 1,981 years.

 

[Old Timer]

Premillennialists and dispensationalists believe the 70th week has been suspended now for 1,981 years.

Probably........ because... and this is just a maybe.....

Maybe.. just maybe..

Because it's true that the Lord has not yet come again..

Now I know that might sound absolutely crazy..

But.. maybe there is just a slight possibility that the Deliverer has not yet come to turn away ungodliness from JACOB..?

Maybe.. just maybe.. that's what the Apostle to the Gentiles meant when he warned the church to not be ignorant of that lest they become wise in their own conceits..

Now I could be completely off my rocker here..

Just a thought.. if you folks ever consider anything besides 70AD being the end etc..

 

[random person]

Probably........ because... and this is just a maybe.....

Maybe.. just maybe..

Because it's true that the Lord has not yet come again..

Now I know that might sound absolutely crazy..

But.. maybe there is just a slight possibility that the Deliverer has not yet come to turn away ungodliness from JACOB..?

Maybe.. just maybe.. that's what the Apostle to the Gentiles meant when he warned the church to not be ignorant of that lest they become wise in their own conceits..

Now I could be completely off my rocker here..

Just a thought.. if you folks ever consider anything besides 70AD being the end etc..

70AD was the end of the Jewish age, Old Covenant age.

Remember when God comes in a swift cloud of judgment it is usually in the form of foreign nation coming to deal God's judgment on another nation. You can not deny that the Romans
qualify.

 

[Old Timer]

70AD was the end of the Jewish age, Old Covenant age.

Remember when God comes in swift cloud of judgment it is usually in the form of foreign nation coming to deal God's judgment on that nation. You can not deny that the Romans
qualify.

I said maybe..

Just something to consider.. if you're willing.. if not, then you'll continue to believe that everything ended in 70AD..

 

[Bible2]

random person said in post 23:

70AD was the end of the Jewish age, Old Covenant age.

The time of the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law ended not at the destruction of the temple in 70 AD, but decades earlier, at the moment Jesus died on the Cross (Matthew 27:50-51a) and abolished the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law (Ephesians 2:15-16, Colossians 2:14-17, Romans 7:6; 2 Corinthians 3:6-18, Hebrews 7:18-19), which was the same moment he brought the New Covenant into effect (Matthew 26:28, Hebrews 9:15-17, Hebrews 10:19-20, Matthew 27:51a). So there was no transition period, no overlap at all (Hebrews 10:9b, Hebrews 7:12), between the time of the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law and the time of the New Covenant.

Also, while the apostles asked Jesus about the end of the age (Matthew 24:3), he didn't tell them the end of the age would occur at the destruction of the 2nd temple, or (as is sometimes claimed) before the future tribulation, or even at the end of the future tribulation, i.e. at his (post-tribulation) 2nd coming (Matthew 24:29-31), or when the end of the age would occur, just as Jesus didn't tell the apostles many other things during his ministry (John 16:12). It wouldn't be until much later that Jesus would show the apostle John through the vision in the book of Revelation (given about 95 AD: Irenaeus, Against Heresies 5:30:3c) that the end of the age, when all the unsaved will be cast into the lake of fire (Matthew 13:40, Matthew 25:41, Revelation 20:15), won't occur until over 1,000 years after Jesus' (never fulfilled) 2nd coming (Revelation 19:7 to 20:15).

random person said in post 23:

Remember when God comes in a swift cloud of judgment it is usually in the form of foreign nation coming to deal God's judgment on another nation.

Isaiah 19 hasn't been fulfilled yet. For Isaiah 19:5,17-25 has never happened, but will happen during the future millennium, when the returned Jesus will bring judgments on Egypt for its refusal, at first, to come up to worship him in Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:16-21). Jesus travelling on a cloud in the sky in Isaiah 19:1 can be literal and physical, just as Jesus ascending into a cloud in the sky in Acts 1:9 was literal and physical.

 

[Douggg]

Jesus was crucified after the 69th week. During the 70th week.

The abomination of desolation occurred roughly 33-37 years later. During the disciples' generation.

Premillennialists and dispensationalists believe the 70th week has been suspended now for 1,981 years.

Jesus arrived in Jerusalem that last Passover week as the messiah, King of Israel, son of David anointed, riding the donkey fulfilling Zechariah 9. 4 days later, he was crucified ending the 69th week.

9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

 

[Shocker]

Jesus was crucified after the 69th week. During the 70th week.

The abomination of desolation occurred roughly 33-37 years later. During the disciples' generation.

Premillennialists and dispensationalists believe the 70th week has been suspended now for 1,981 years.

According to you, it was suspended for at least 30 years..

It will pick back up with the Jews shortly... just be patient..

 

[Interplanner]

The 70th week was not suspended if you look at the utter chaos being described. It was the entire last generation of Israel of that time; or even more, counting the arrival of the popularity of Judas the Galilean the same time Jesus was born.

And there is almost nothing today that the 70th week could apply to.

There is no reason for Christ and the apostles to speak about the crisis in Israel as forcefully as they did and then whimsically say afterwards that it was 'all X000' years later--sorry we didn't mention that when we started' etc.

 

[Shocker]

The 70th week was not suspended if you look at the utter chaos being described. It was the entire last generation of Israel of that time; or even more, counting the arrival of the popularity of Judas the Galilean the same time Jesus was born.

And there is almost nothing today that the 70th week could apply to.

There is no reason for Christ and the apostles to speak about the crisis in Israel as forcefully as they did and then whimsically say afterwards that it was 'all X000' years later--sorry we didn't mention that when we started' etc.

So you think the abomination of desolation, which happens during the 70th week, actually happened 3/1/2 years after Christ died????

 

[vinsight4u]

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