Baptist Church Hires Lesbian pastors

[redleghunter]

Calvary Baptist Church in Northwest Washington DC, the U.S. capitol has hired a married lesbian couple as co-pastors. Sally Sarratt and Maria Swearingen were presented to the congregation and approved on January 8, 2017 during morning worship.

Your thoughts on this please

Here are mine,
Apparently, gay friendly, progressive churches have given up on the Bible’s authority and historical conditions for pastoral leadership. As the nations become more like Sodom and Gomorrah, many religiously inclined liberals are enthusiastic about their churches following in the same track. This is one more sign that the second coming of Christ is near.

“Likewise also, as it was in the days of Lot…” Luke 17:28.

That's interesting. Not to be confused with Cavalry Chapel.

 

[redleghunter]

Good luck to both of them and the church. I just hope the church was doing so because they felt they were the most qualified, and not to make headlines.

Yet another church succumbing to post modern heresies.

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

 

[John Hyperspace]

2 John 1:6
And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

John 15:12, 1 John 3:11, 1 John 3:23, 2 John 1:5

 

[Wolfe]

Nobody is saved by keeping God's commandments. I mean, that's what justification by faith alone really means.

In my church the Bible is not a weapon to bludgeon sinners and make people feel ashamed of who they are. As my pastor says, Jesus came for the least, the lost, and the last.

You should be ashamed of your sin, anybody who says otherwise is not following biblical doctrine.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Hebrews 10:26
For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins

 

[Wolfe]

You should be ashamed of your sin, anybody who says otherwise is not following biblical doctrine.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Hebrews 10:26
For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins

That being said, no you shouldn't brow beat them, but you also should point out their sin, in a loving manner.

Proverbs 27:6

 

[dhh712]

Calvary Baptist Church in Northwest Washington DC, the U.S. capitol has hired a married lesbian couple as co-pastors. Sally Sarratt and Maria Swearingen were presented to the congregation and approved on January 8, 2017 during morning worship.

Your thoughts on this please

Mine are Isaiah 5:20, that they will call good evil and evil good. Now it is seen as a good thing to be encouraging of homosexual behaviour, even in the churches. It is evil now (heard some stories of it even being termed as hate speech which can get people arrested) to say that homosexuality is a sin, which it is.

No, I don't think this is a sign that Jesus' second coming is near. He said it would come at a time least expected and that there will be no signs as a warning. Just goes to show forth more and ever more of how corrupt we are without God's restraining hand.

It's just sad, very very sad to see good-meaning Christians really coming around to buy into that propaganda of homosexuality to the point where they no longer believe it is against God's revealed will. Very sad to see such willing blindness to corruption.

 

[dhh712]

That being said, no you shouldn't brow beat them, but you also should point out their sin, in a loving manner.

Proverbs 27:6

This is the problem, I feel. There seems to be no understanding of a middle ground here. People have come to believe you must either brow-beat the sinner or encourage him in his sin.

Judge not lest ye be judged has turned into, "Well, we all sin so let's not talk to anyone at all about their sins since we all do it anyway." All the while no one is being corrected on their walk with Christ and egregious sins such as homosexuality become an accepted way of life even in the church.

 

[dhh712]

2 John 1:6
And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

Yes, love isn't some gushy feeling we exude toward others like "Oh, you're such a nice person, I love you so much." It involves correction as needed. Has not any of the other opinion heard of "tough love"? If you love someone, sometimes you have to stand upon biblical ground and say, "Look, you're in error here." It makes you out to be the bad person and it creates an awkward feeling, but that's really loving someone. Just leaving them alone and feeding them words such as,"Oh, you're just fine brother; I love you just the way you are," isn't showing love to them.

 

[Wolfe]

This is the problem, I feel. There seems to be no understanding of a middle ground here. People have come to believe you must either brow-beat the sinner or encourage him in his sin.

Judge not lest ye be judged has turned into, "Well, we all sin so let's not talk to anyone at all about their sins since we all do it anyway." All the while no one is being corrected on their walk with Christ and egregious sins such as homosexuality become an accepted way of life even in the church.

You can clear the, judge not lest ye be judged.
It does not say to not judge, it says do not judge hypocritically.

I know you didn't say that it means to not judge ever at all.
This is what you would say to someone who does say that, if you ever encounter someone who does say that is what it says, when it is not what it says.

Nice, short, video to sum it up.

 

[Sheep4Christ]

Scandalous!!! And I refuse to explain myself.

 

[Rajni]

2 John 1:6
And this is love, that we walk after his commandments.

There are a lot of commandments (613, to be exact). I'm assuming there are no shrimp-eaters, for example, condemning what this church did, because that would be awkward.

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[JacksBratt]

I'm glad so-called liberal churches don't use the Bible as a weapon to bludgeon minorities.

If you read about the Israelite's in the history of their people, it goes something like this:

Follow God's way... blessings and prosperity
Slowly fall away and push God to the curb...... get pounded.
Come back to the ways of God...
Repeat.

It matters not that every human sins and that homosexuality is a sin and thus, these people are no worse than us. However, you cannot accept them into a pastorate any more than you could a man in common law relationship with a woman, a man who frequents strip clubs as a customer, a man who repeatedly is paying for hookers, a man who is visibly involved as a drug dealer, a man who is known to cheat on his wife, continually..

People who accept roles of leadership must be of a certain quality and their behavior must be, at the minimum, up to the standards of moral and legal law.

Any leader in our church who may be found to be outside the boundaries of pure Christian moral living, would be asked to step down, change their ways or be relieved of their position.

 

[1John2:4]

Nobody is saved by keeping God's commandments. I mean, that's what justification by faith alone really means.

In my church the Bible is not a weapon to bludgeon sinners and make people feel ashamed of who they are. As my pastor says, Jesus came for the least, the lost, and the last.

No such thing as faith alone in Romans 3:28 alone was added by Martin Luther.

Matthew 19:17 So he said to them "Why do you call Me good? No one is good by One, that is God. But if you want to enter into life keep the commandments.

Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments, for that is man's all.

 

[Sheep4Christ]

That's like putting a rebellious reprobated sinner over the church.Someone who is a determined sinner. People need to repent and get right with God.

 

[Sheep4Christ]

Jesus wept....

 

[Sheep4Christ]

I might do a little weeping myself. Over this situation.

 

[1John2:4]

Yes, love isn't some gushy feeling we exude toward others like "Oh, you're such a nice person, I love you so much." It involves correction as needed. Has not any of the other opinion heard of "tough love"? If you love someone, sometimes you have to stand upon biblical ground and say, "Look, you're in error here." It makes you out to be the bad person and it creates an awkward feeling, but that's really loving someone. Just leaving them alone and feeding them words such as,"Oh, you're just fine brother; I love you just the way you are," isn't showing love to them.

Agreed, according to all that happened to people during the time of Noah, the nations that Isreal drove out because of disobedience, and to Isreal itself when she disobeyed it looks as if God is an advocate of tough love

 

[Original Happy Camper]

You can clear the, judge not lest ye be judged.
It does not say to not judge, it says do not judge hypocritically.

I know you didn't say that it means to not judge ever at all.
This is what you would say to someone who does say that, if you ever encounter someone who does say that is what it says, when it is not what it says.

Nice, short, video to sum it up.

Watched it Right on.

 

[Paul Yohannan]

I might do a little weeping myself. Over this situation.

Note that, alas, this is par for the course in mainline denominations like the ABC. If the SBC had done this that would be more dismaying.