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Are homosexuals more at risk for STI and HIV ?

Discussion in 'One Bread, One Body - Catholic' started by GutenbergPrintPress1454, Apr 26, 2013.

Are homosexuals more at risk for STI and HIV ?

  1. More at risk

  2. Equally at risk

  3. Less at risk

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  2. audiologic

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    I can't remember where I read the stats, but I DO agree with what you're saying - either way if you're sleeping around you're gonna get yourself in trouble.

    However, monogamy works the other way too - if neither person has HIV or any other STD, and the two remain loyal to each other, then neither of them get it. This is REGARDLESS of whether they are hetero/homosexual. STDs don't just pop up out of nowhere due to sexual preference, you have to pick them up somewhere.

    And while I've met many gays who have had sex with many people (same with straight friends), I've also met gays who have much less problems with monogamy. One guy I used to work for had been with his current partner for over 20 years - something that, unfortunately, can't be said of most of the straight people I know (including Christian friends).
     
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    stone Senior Contributor Supporter

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    I didn't vote because "Duh" was not an option.
     
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    Keep in mind that monogamy is the determining factor, sexual preference is not.

    HIV, contrary to popular belief, is more prevalent among heterosexuals. If you sleep with someone who has HIV, whether you're gay or not, you're going to get it.
     
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    I think only gay people believe what your trying to sell.
     
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    I guess my question is, what are the OP motivations by posting an "either Or" fallacious Poll ?
     
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    Then explain the problem of HIV/AIDS in Africa. The women who have it and the children they pass it onto.

    I can assure you that not every African is gay, and in many places in Africa Homosexuality is legal and in a few countries you can be put to death for being gay.
     
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    Uh, do some research - plus it's common sense.

    If ONE person has no STDs, and their PARTNER has no STDs, and neither of them sleep with anyone else, guess what? No STDs!

    HIV does not magically appear out of thin air because of homosexual sex. It comes from sleeping around and PICKING IT UP SOMEWHERE.
     
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    :thumbsup::amen::clap:
     
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    OOPS - false info alert! This was on my end. According to various sources, the gay community is still the most affected.

    HOWEVER, my original post still stands - along with the fact that it doesn't appear out of thin air.

    The truth of the matter is you still have to have sexual contact with someone who is infected to BECOME infected.

    Most Christians look at the numbers and say "See? God's punishing the gays!" as they quietly overlook the fact that it's not homosexuality that causes the illness (or any STD) but running around having sex with everybody.
     
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    Oh yeah, and FYI, to date there are no documented cases of female-to-female HIV transmission. Putting two and two together means that there are thousands more "straight" women who do have it. Generally, women are much more likely to report as "bisexual" than men, though. Still.

    Just saying.
     
  12. First of all, where are your sources and statistics? And most importantly what are the proportions? You can't just make a claim like that without providing a source. It makes you lose your credibility. Here are some well backed up stats:


    “Disparities in HIV infection also exist between gay and bisexual men and heterosexual populations. Recently, the CDC announced that gay and bisexual men in the United States are 44 to 86 times more likely to become infected with HIV than heterosexual men, and 40 to 77 times more likely to become infected than women.” – Obama

    "Gay and bisexual men have comprised the largest proportion of the HIV epidemic in the United States since the first cases were reported in the 1980s, and that has not changed. They still comprise the greatest proportion of infections nationally." - Obama

    “Given the starkness and the enduring nature of the disparate impact on gay and bisexual men, it is important to significantly reprioritize resources and attention on this community. The United States cannot reduce the number of HIV infections nationally without better addressing HIV among gay and bisexual men…Even though gay and bisexual men comprise only two percent of the U.S. population (4 percent of men)” – Obama (bold emphasis given in Obama’s 2010 Whitehouse report)

    “Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, MSM accounted for 63% of all new HIV infections” – CDC

    “1 in 5 Gay/Bi Men Have HIV, Nearly Half Don't Know” - WebMD

    Sources:
    President Obama's National HIV/AIDS Strategy for the the the United States 2010 White House Report
    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    WebMD
     
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    How Many People are Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender? | Williams Institute

    ^This is where I gathered the information that women tend to report as bisexual more often than men do.

    Fact Sheet: HIV/AIDS among Women Who Have Sex With Women | Factsheets | CDC HIV/AIDS

    ^this is where I gathered the information that there have been no reported cases of female-to-female HIV transmission in the US.


    You show me where HIV is generated out of thin air due to homosexual contact between two partners who don't have it, and I'll definitely revise my current stance.

    Once again, it comes down to monogamy.

    You go out and find someone you don't know, you have unprotected sex, you get sick. Doesn't matter whether it's a man or a woman. But being gay does not put you at more risk - sleeping around does.
     
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    Are gay men more promiscuous than straight men? (Analyzing research results) | Hummings of a Bumbershoot

    This is also interesting. While the "average" of partners of gay men is only slightly higher - 6 instead of 5 - the higher the number of partners get (after a certain point), the more likely the man is to be gay.

    That's a scary thought...sleeping with 100+ people. Much more likely to happen, according to this, among gay people. I don't believe that having that sexual preference "makes" you do those things, but surely it contributes to the prevalence of STDs.

    Long story short, whatever you choose, better know the person you're with.
     
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    Until I read this thread, I had no idea that there still existed people who were unaware that AIDS is primarily heterosexually transmitted in Africa, the continent on which it is most common.
     
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    +1

    It's hard for me to believe that if God is punishing the gays with HIV, He's not punishing Africa for being...African?
     
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    ...and if God is punishing homosexual men because He disapproves of their sexual activities, why does He reward homosexual women with the lowest rates of transmission?

    Africans have been seemingly punished for being African for a loooong time.
     
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  19. Wikipedia? Really? The other website only talks about numbers who have had AIDS. But numbers without proportions are meaningless when it comes to the scientific question of who's more likely to get AIDS and who isn't. Provide some percentages. For example, the following proportion tells us that actively bisexual and homosexual men are far more likely to get AIDS than anyone else:

    “Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) represent approximately 2% of the US population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. In 2010, MSM accounted for 63% of all new HIV infections” – CDC

    Also, I think homosexual and bisexual Africans have a high probability of being in the closet and therefore reporting as heterosexual because of Africa's extreme intolerance of homosexuals. Many countries in Africa are Muslim and have Sharia Law which punishes homosexuals with the death penalty. Homosexuality is also very much rejected by African tribal cultures. Therefore, the fear of severe punishment for being homosexual in Africa most likely skews the data. But anyway, according to the CDC, the first reported case of AIDS was in the actively homosexual community in 1981.

    AIDS Timeline:

    "1981 -CDC reports first cases of rare pneumonia in young gay men – later determined to be
    AIDS-related – in June 5 Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR). This marks
    the official beginning of the HIV/AIDS epidemic
    ."

    CDC HIV/AIDS Global Epidemic Timeline
    http://www.cdc.gov/globalaids/Global-HIV-AIDS-at-CDC/pdf/DGHA_Timeline.pdf

    CDC - CDC Global HIV/AIDS Milestones - Global HIV/AIDS at CDC - Global HIV/AIDS
     
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    Yes, they are more at risk. Here are some sources which discuss the issue.

    CDC - Sexually Transmitted Diseases - Gay and Bisexual Men's Health - This first link is related to men who engage in homosexual practices.

    Primary System - Ten Things For Gay Men - This link is the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association. Its mission statement is:

    So clearly this is not a site that is biased against LGBT people.

    On the page linked to above it says this:



    It clearly says in the first sentence that sexually active gay men have a higher rate of STD infection.

    I have provided two links: one from an unbiased website the Centers for Disease Control which is a government agency or organization. The other is from a biased website and it is biased towards homosexuals. Both clearly state that sexually active gay men are at an increased risk of disease.
     
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