So...someone walking out on Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, etc, would receive the same response from you?
If it was relevant to a career in which opposing viewpoints must be dealt with and looked at with neutrality yes.
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So...someone walking out on Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, etc, would receive the same response from you?
I think Savage should have ignored them, but I don't see that he cursed anyone in particular. Dan Savage addressed his feelings on Christians who are offended by his distaste for anti gay Christians.. he doesn't care - he feels it more important that children who are broken down by those Christians who are cruel have support because too many are choosing not to live rather than wait for it to get better.
No, since I'm not attacking the whole of Christianity, or Jesus.
Merely criticizing many of his self-righteous followers. Christianity is a religion invented by humans.
Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian.
Another ad hominem.
Just as Fundamentalists continue to twist the entire Bible to sue their own bigotry, ignorance, and prejudice.
Thanks for proving my point.
Homosexuals aren't the only group being "bullied". The mainstream media bullies conservatives all the time. There have also been studies done, such as studies in the Netherlands, where homosexual marriage has been legal for over a decade, along with same-sex unions for 33 years, and there was no statistically significant difference in suicide rates.You've got to admire a mindset like this. Create a society where gays are vilified and prevented from settling down, then blame them for the inevitable psychological problems that causes.
Try retaking your data in a society where gays haven't been systematically oppressed for the last few decades, then we'll talk.
Of course, to provide a comparison to get that data gays will need equal rights.
Homosexuals aren't the only group being "bullied". The mainstream media bullies conservatives all the time.
There have also been studies done, such as studies in the Netherlands, where homosexual marriage has been legal for over a decade, along with same-sex unions for 33 years, and there was no statistically significant difference in suicide rates.
Suicidality and sexual orientation: differenc... [Arch Sex Behav. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI
And I think that's the crux of the argument here. I have far less sympathy for a bunch of mildly offended conservative Christians being "insulted" by Dan Savage, than I do for the gay kids who are being bullied into suicide by those so called "Christians".
Did that hurt to hear? Good. But hearing it couldn't have hurt nearly as much as what the boys in the photo above had to listen today-in, day-out, for yearsat schools filled with bigoted little monsters created not in the image of a loving God, but in the images of the hateful and false "followers of Christ" they call "mom and dad."
Feel free to keep reading:Riiiiight. Have they been killing themselves over it?
But again, whatever you have to do to try and force parity. I'm sure a minor who wants to change schools can do so as easily as turning off a television.
"Among homosexual men, perceived discrimination was associated with suicidality."
The solution therefore is to ignore the conservatives regardless, who just want to make things even worse for them.
Feel free to keep reading:
"This study suggests that even in a country with a comparatively tolerant climate regarding homosexuality, homosexual men were at much higher risk for suicidality than heterosexual men."
Moreover there is another group in America that also has higher rates a depression, suicide, and STD transmission than average: African Americans. Racists like to suggest this is because African Americans are "inferior" to Caucasians. However most reasonable people understand that societal bigotry and discrimination (however subtle) contributes a great deal to the emotional/social problems African Americans face.
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Feel free to keep reading:
"This study suggests that even in a country with a comparatively tolerant climate regarding homosexuality, homosexual men were at much higher risk for suicidality than heterosexual men."
Maybe. What's that have to do with homosexuality?
whites are about 2.5x more likely to commit suicide than blacks or hispanics.
Depression is also more common in whites than hispanics or blacks.
Do you always just make stuff up that seems convienant for you?
because then bullying is immaterial to suicide.
But there will be no real martyrs for homo rights; only invented ones.
because then bullying is immaterial to suicide.
But there will be no real martyrs for homo rights; only invented ones.
this statement isn't technically correct either. The way of saying it correctly would be the risk is higher for those who engage in anal sex. That is the biggest danger for transmission of STI's (STD's is no longer the correct terminology!). Skin is more likely to break and that increases the chances of infection occouring in the first place and also being transmitted if one person has an STI.It isn't any riskier than heterosexual sex,
If they have twisted it then how about you provide some actual evidence of that? oh and don't just repost what you have put in another thread as that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.Just as Fundamentalists continue to twist the entire Bible to sue their own bigotry, ignorance, and prejudice.
Thanks for proving my point.
So the solution is to ban and silence anything that might cause suicide is it? Well then it should be illegal for people to consider changing kids from one school to another. uh-oh look out defence force kids. That is going to make a very different looking society. no schools for a start! hey that will solve the problem. They can't be bullied at school if there are none! if your wondering why I am saying no school it is because kids have committed suicide after overhearing a discussion between their parents about moving the child from one school to another.Riiiiight. Have they been killing themselves over it?
But again, whatever you have to do to try and force parity. I'm sure a minor who wants to change schools can do so as easily as turning off a television
well you probably didn't need to as it has already been mentioned in this thread!Ok, so I was going to try and avoid saying this, but what the heck...
Anyone find the notion of a bunch of prospective journalists walking out of an event because they don't like what's being said hilarious?
Talk about career suicide....
And I think that's the crux of the argument here. I have far less sympathy for a bunch of mildly offended conservative Christians being "insulted" by Dan Savage, than I do for the gay kids who are being bullied into suicide by those so called "Christians".