Satan and his angels in Revelation 12:7-9 will be cast down to earth from the second heaven, by Michael and his angels. It will happen after 1260 days of Revelation 12:6 which are the testimony period of the two witnesses.
My replies will gravitate towards my OP. Whether from the 3rd heaven or 2nd heaven there is no more place
for him because rhe overcomers who are the
man-child have been caught up to God's throne.
The connection between what the good angels do and what has happened to the man-child must be realized.
Verse 5 is the catalyst causing
verse 7.
Verse 5 - . . . and her child was caught up to God and to His throne.
Verse 7 -
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels went to war with the dragon. . . .
The church's battle is a spiritual one and not against flesh and blood.
For our wrestling is not against blood and flesh but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenlies. (Eph. 6:12)
And as Micahel and Gabriel assisted the godly Daniel so the good angels serve the stronger part of the woman - the
man-child
in spritual warfare.
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth for service for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation? (Heb. 1:14)
When the overcomers as the
man-child arrive to God's throne they will no doubt give the command upon which the
good angels will then respond. Perhaps the speaking of the overcomers will be like this -
"Satan, we overcame you on earth. Through God's grace we overcame everything you did to stop God's konghdom.
Now we have been resurrecred and raptured up here. What are you doing here. In the name of Jesus the Lord and Victor
we bind you and command you now leave this heavenly realm. Your accusations against God's people have been nullified.
Now the kingdom has come to us and we command you to leave."
We should sometimes speak to Satan this way and let him know that Jesus has overcome for us.
And we overcome in Jesus.
At any rate since
"Now has come the salvation and the power and the kingdom . . . "
the good angels who are ministering spirits "
sent forth for service for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation"
do their assigned part to assist the raptired saints.
The last straw, as you put it, is when the beast-king in Revelation 11 kills the two witnesses, once their 1260 days ends. Three and half days later, the two witnesses come back to life and are called up to heaven.
The two witnesses will not be killed if there is no Antichrist to kill them.
There is no Antichrist to kill them if he is not summoned up by Satan.
Satan will not summon him up intil he is cast down from his heavenly activity of accusatio,
And he will be cast down because the good angels drive him out.
And the good angels do so because of the corporate man-child's rapture to the throne of God.
That is what I am attempting to show you.
Also it is at the rapture of the overcomers that the1,260 days commence. And those are the same as the two
witness have their testimonyy.
Imediately following the rapture of the man-child:
. . . and her child was caught up to God and to His throne.
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place there
prepared by God so that they might nourish her there a thousand two hundred and sixty days. (Rev. 12:5c,6)
The testimony of the two witnesses during those same days:
And I will cause My two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth. (Rev.11:3)
Then after a great earthquake in Jerusalem, the 7th angel sounds his trumpet, which in the days of , the mystery of God will be finished, Revelation 10:7.
I understand that. But leaning towards my OP the strategic advantage gained by the overcomers is the catalyst of the last days.
We as Christians should graduate now at just considering outward things. It is time we see the inward advancement of Christ
in or beings - saturating, permeating, and causing us to overcome which beings abour this things.
Towards the beginning of this thread I emphasizd the the prophecy of Jeremiah was half the cause of the return from Babylon.
The other essential half was the godly Daniel's living and petitions for God to do what He had promised.
And this Daniel did risking his life.
Now this is a good time for me to say the
man-child in Revelation 12 just represents overcomers who have died.
. . . they loved not their soul-life even unto death. (v.11)
The same principle of a rapture of
LIVING overcomers will apply around that same time.
At that time two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left.
Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left.
Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord comes. (Matt. 24:40-42)
So a remnant of deceased overcomers will be raptured pre-tribulation.
And a remnant of living overcomers will also be raptured pre-tribulation around the same time.
Without such raptures, of the deceased overomers and the living overcomers, the great tribulation
will not have a cuase to start. Christ is not waiting for the beast as much as He is waiting for His saints to
preparesd themselves and be ready - overcoming through His sufficuent grace,
It is not the lives of righteous persons who bring about the great tribulation, but that of wicked. Just as Noah was found righteous was not the cause of the flood, but the acts of the wicked.
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You are not completely correct here.
This herald of righteousness also condemned the world according to Hebrews
By faith Noah, having been divinely instructed concerning things not yet seen and being moved by pious fear, prepared an ark for the salvation of his house, through which he condemned the world, , , , (Heb 11:7)
Yes he did hve God's warning of empending judgment.
But we should not underestimate that Noah's righteousness caused God to act upon His word.
You see the ark saved Noah from the flood.
But the water saved Noah from that evil generation.
The ark saved Noah from the flood of water.
The flood of water saved Noah from that evil hopeless generation.
God could point to Noah and say in essence
"You see it is possible or a manto live godly in this age. Therefore judgment
woll; fall upon the rest of you."
I did not ignore your comment after this. But I cut short this post here.