Trump won't say he will accept election results--Anarchy? Revolution?

[tickingclocker]

Google is your friend. Well, maybe not Google, but there are good search engines out there. You seem to be living in your own little bubble of reality. Everything I said can be confirmed in videos and emails of the perps.

These aren't one person issues, but primarily DNC-controlled and planned. I'm sorry you've attached yourself to such a corrupt group of people, but that was your decision to make.

Look at the big picture, not just the myopic one. It's not me living in a bubble. I'm not the one desperately trying to defend someone who doesn't deserve an inch of the effort.

I'm deeply sorry some people are unable to see past their own bent noses. Maybe they should remember the old, wise saying, "believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see."

 

[tickingclocker]

The reaction of Trump's opponents to his statement speaks volumes more than the statement itself. If Trump isn't on to something, what is anyone so bothered about?

“Experience had taught me that innocence seldom utters outraged shrikes. Guilt does. Innocence is a mighty shield, and the man or woman covered by it, is much more likely to answer calmly: 'My life is blameless. Look into it, if you like, for you will find nothing.' That is the tone of innocence.”
― Whittaker Chambers, Witness

Exactly. I would have laughed in Trump's face if he had said what he did in front of me. Say what? The election is only rigged if you "lose", Donny??? LOL!! What a complete joke he is. He's trying to BULLY the country into fearing if we don't elect him, he will start a civil war. Bullies should be laughed down for what they are, never feared for what they are not.

Much more sensible to bring on the sock puppet pundits.... They at least would keep the "civil war" in real-time perspective.

 

[tickingclocker]

It was pretty bad.
But I guess we should keep in mind that those who could be whipped up into a revolutionary fervour probably are a fraction of Trump voters, probably a minority, hopefully a tiny one.

Unfortunately the GOP(or at least some of it's more paranoid elements) have been complaining about election fraud(and implying the Democrats as benefiting from it) for years now to justify vote suppressing measures, so there's plenty of fertile ground for the idea of this election being rigged to take root.

I seem to remember a poll suggesting around 47% of voters believe such, and 72% of Republican voters believe such...which is very disconcerting. I think it was YouGov...will look into it if requested.

There will be no post-revolutionary fervor. Have you ever wondered just why it was decided that elections would be held on a Tuesday, instead of a Friday night? The wise founders who understood folks still have to get up and go to work the next day, regardless of who wins. Those bills still need paying. Life goes on.

 

[tickingclocker]

Good News!!! He's met the critics halfway and declared today that he will fully accept the election results... IF HE WINS!!

See? He can compromise and find a favorable solution for his side somewhere in the middle. Just like he's promised to do with the botched-up trade deals. Everyone should be happy now.

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

Exactly. I would have laughed in Trump's face if he had said what he did in front of me. Say what? The election is only rigged if you "lose", Donny??? LOL!! What a complete joke he is. He's trying to BULLY the country into fearing if we don't elect him, he will start a civil war. Bullies should be laughed down for what they are, never feared for what they are not.

Much more sensible to bring on the sock puppet pundits.... They at least would keep the "civil war" in real-time perspective.

Are you a democrat? You must be. Because if you were caring about the fairness of rigged elections you would know there is a 2 part video from former DEMOCRATS who say how they rig the elections. Not as in "We make sure someone wins", but as in "We illegaly get people to vote for who we want!". I posted the link to the video before but it was taken down because it had swearing.

Actually just go to youtube and search "Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Fraud". Its been trending for days now near the top. They say they have been doing this for about 50 years now. Shipping TONS of people in from across state borders to vote for a democrat. Using fake ids, names in other places. Paying people who aren't of sound mind to vote for a democrat.

You still say theres no tampering going on?

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Exactly. I would have laughed in Trump's face if he had said what he did in front of me. Say what? The election is only rigged if you "lose", Donny??? LOL!!

He said that he'll hold off on commenting on whether the elections were free and fair until after they happen. That's all.

What a complete joke he is. He's trying to BULLY the country into fearing if we don't elect him, he will start a civil war.

His critics are the only ones talking about a civil war. Anybody who thinks that a civil war will happen just because Trump won't concede the election are afraid of their own shadows. It would seem that some people are though, like for example the OP and much of the media.

 

[tickingclocker]

Are you a democrat? You must be. Because if you were caring about the fairness of rigged elections you would know there is a 2 part video from former DEMOCRATS who say how they rig the elections. Not as in "We make sure someone wins", but as in "We illegaly get people to vote for who we want!". I posted the link to the video before but it was taken down because it had swearing.

Actually just go to youtube and search "Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Fraud". Its been trending for days now near the top. They say they have been doing this for about 50 years now. Shipping TONS of people in from across state borders to vote for a democrat. Using fake ids, names in other places. Paying people who aren't of sound mind to vote for a democrat.

You still say theres no tampering going on?

I'm sure there are just as many "videos" of former Repubs "claiming" they rigged elections just as often, swearing or no swearing included. You just haven't had the nerve to go looking for them. We have the best voting system in the world. Why is it people believed that, and were proud of it, until Trump whines "the system is only rigged if he is NOT elected"? Yet it won't be "rigged" if he... wins? Howzat work? Will it have been "rigged" in his favor, if he wins?? I'll bet you a Krispy Kream donut that there will be people caught trying to vote for Trump more than once--and getting caught, than there ever will be for Hillary. She has nothing to lose. HE does.

In other words, anyone can "claim" anything. Do you realize that most states are now quietly and carefully going over their voter roles before the election? Who wants to become the nasty focus of someone like Trump?? Once they are tidied up, and the latest dead people who haven't even had time to cool down yet are removed from the voting rolls, those books will be 100% pristine for election day. So, thank you Donald Trump for forcing all 50 states to do a bit of light housekeeping a bit earlier than they expected. It will make Hillary's landslide victory all that much sweeter, knowing there could not possibly be any "widespread voter fraud" happening. And there never has been.

I'm not sorry that I can't bring myself to vote for a stunted juvenile posing as a thinking adult, and doing such a blatantly obvious, embarrassing job of it, too. There's been no evidence to the alternative possibility thus far.

We just started requiring ID's to vote a few short years ago. Ask yourself.... how exactly has it been "50 years that they have been using fake ID's" to vote with?

 

[SeventyOne]

Look at the big picture, not just the myopic one. It's not me living in a bubble. I'm not the one desperately trying to defend someone who doesn't deserve an inch of the effort.

I'm deeply sorry some people are unable to see past their own bent noses. Maybe they should remember the old, wise saying, "believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see."

That doesn't seem like a wise saying to me at all, as I prefer to observe my surroundings with both an analytical and critical viewpoint.

It sounds more like "keep your head in the sand", which could explain a lot.

 

[s_gunter]

Must of run out of words to describe Forrest Trump. He's not funny anymore, is he.

Haha! I almost berated you for insulting Forrest Gump (you know, that's the "first thought" when you see/hear the name Forrest), then I remembered General Nathan Bedford Forrest.

Good one, @bettercallpaul. Good one!

 

[tickingclocker]

That doesn't seem like a wise saying to me at all, as I prefer to observe my surroundings with both an analytical and critical viewpoint.

It sounds more like "keep your head in the sand", which could explain a lot.

No, I didn't think you would agree. Rabble rouse away, then. I am more than confident I won't end up spending my golden years in a Federal penitentiary for voter fraud. Neither candidate is worth such desperate measures.

 

[tickingclocker]

He said that he'll hold off on commenting on whether the elections were free and fair until after they happen. That's all.



His critics are the only ones talking about a civil war. Anybody who thinks that a civil war will happen just because Trump won't concede the election are afraid of their own shadows. It would seem that some people are though, like for example the OP and much of the media.

I'm a critic of Trump (and Hillary), and I'm not claiming there will be a "civil war". Quite the opposite. There will be conspiracy theories galore instead. Unfortunately, the current, carefully cultivated climate isn't going to dissipate for quite some time. Four more years, in fact, and beyond--if the perpetraitors can keep their favorite conspiracy balls in the air that long... on Trump TV. The King of Conspiracies is merely cultivating a built-in following for his real intent, as owner, producer, director, and star reporter. Trump doesn't have the attention span or substance to face being president. (He's simply not a detail person. Face it.) He also thrives on his own popularity, but can't stand being criticized. We ALL know no president has ever escaped those two reality shifts. He's not THAT stupid.

After he loses the election Trump will gradually sell out his supporters to save a buck, you will see. He will have to. Don't take it personally. With him, its just business. Wait for it.

 

[Fantine]

It seems as if the only kind of voter fraud Americans realistically need to be afraid of during this election is the possibility of voter machine hacking from the outside forces (suspected of being Russian) who brought us wikileaks.

Manipulation of our vote by hostile foreign powers is certainly a concern, and I hope that states do everything possible to secure their voting systems. Pennsylvania's is most vulnerable because its machines lack a paper trail for recounts.

28 states are working with Homeland Security to correct any possible weaknesses in their cyber voting systems.

The department has offered states two kinds of help, both for free: a remote cyber “hygiene” scan of their servers by department officials who look for known vulnerabilities and can recommend patches, and a more intensive on-site analysis by a team of computer security specialists.

The department’s emphasis on voluntary measures has met with mixed success: So far, 28 states have accepted that offer, the department said, but it declined to name them. Officials with election agencies in the large swing states of Ohio, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania said they were participating. (Pennsylvania is particularly important because its electronic voting machines lack a paper audit trail for recounts.)

Florida, another large swing state, is not participating in this program, but officials in the office of its secretary of state said they had already been working with federal partners.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/politics/us-formally-accuses-russia-of-stealing-dnc-emails.html

Will Trump blame our Homeland Security for "rigging elections" because they are trying to prevent hacks by enemy Russian cyberhackers?

 

[Armoured]

He said that he'll hold off on commenting on whether the elections were free and fair until after they happen. That's all.



His critics are the only ones talking about a civil war. Anybody who thinks that a civil war will happen just because Trump won't concede the election are afraid of their own shadows. It would seem that some people are though, like for example the OP and much of the media.

Ive heard plenty of Trumpettes talking about taking violence to the streets if Trump looses. As I've said elsewhere, I doubt many actually WILL, but I don't know why anyone would deny that these people are making these sorts of armchair commando claims.

 

[Armoured]

It seems as if the only kind of voter fraud Americans realistically need to be afraid of during this election is the possibility of voter machine hacking from the outside forces (suspected of being Russian) who brought us wikileaks.

Manipulation of our vote by hostile foreign powers is certainly a concern, and I hope that states do everything possible to secure their voting systems. Pennsylvania's is most vulnerable because its machines lack a paper trail for recounts.

28 states are working with Homeland Security to correct any possible weaknesses in their cyber voting systems.



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/politics/us-formally-accuses-russia-of-stealing-dnc-emails.html

Will Trump blame our Homeland Security for "rigging elections" because they are trying to prevent hacks by enemy Russian cyberhackers?

I think the list of who he WON'T blame is probably shorter. Let's see, there'll be HIM, obviously, aaaaaand... that's probably about it, actually.

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

I think maybe we should focus less on who the candidates are and more on the supreme court. Because thats honestly more important and what as stake here.

If Hillary wins the people she has chose to pick will reinforce and make new laws in favor of unchrsitian things. Trumps picks will not only keep things more like they used to be when america was formed, but he wants them to overturn Roe vs Wade.

In other words whoever is picked will determine how things go for the next few decades. Which is really the main reason I am picking Trump. Because Hillary means we christian we lose a ton more rights with her picks.

 

[Armoured]

I think maybe we should focus less on who the candidates are and more on the supreme court. Because thats honestly more important and what as stake here.

If Hillary wins the people she has chose to pick will reinforce and make new laws in favor of unchrsitian things. Trumps picks will not only keep things more like they used to be when america was formed, but he wants them to overturn Roe vs Wade.

In other words whoever is picked will determine how things go for the next few decades. Which is really the main reason I am picking Trump. Because Hillary means we christian we lose a ton more rights with her picks.

What rights do you think you will "lose" under a Hillary appointed High Court? Specifically, I mean?

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

Well Hillary is open about how she hates christians and catholics. Which tells me aside from keeping current laws in place that she could still (with the supreme court) make new ones is she wanted. Maybe restricting teaching of churches. Or, one thats talked about more is not allowing churchs to to be tax free if they teach things that are not politically correct. Labeling some as hate groups...etc.

The question is do we want to risk that and risk other laws they could come up with? Remember the bible says things will get worse for us in the end. We will be hated even more. Which tells me laws will change, I mean I know its inevitable since the bible says it happens. But I'd still like to avoid it for as long as possible.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

It seems as if the only kind of voter fraud Americans realistically need to be afraid of during this election is the possibility of voter machine hacking from the outside forces (suspected of being Russian) who brought us wikileaks.

Our voting machines couldn't be hacked by anybody else?

Anyway, we know who brought us Wikileaks. His name is Julian Assange.

 

[Armoured]

Well Hillary is open about how she hates christians and catholics. Which tells me aside from keeping current laws in place that she could still (with the supreme court) make new ones is she wanted. Maybe restricting teaching of churches. Or, one thats talked about more is not allowing churchs to to be tax free if they teach things that are not politically correct. Labeling some as hate groups...etc.

The question is do we want to risk that and risk other laws they could come up with? Remember the bible says things will get worse for us in the end. We will be hated even more. Which tells me laws will change, I mean I know its inevitable since the bible says it happens. But I'd still like to avoid it for as long as possible.

So nothing specific, just a bunch of conspiracy theorist alarmist speculation. Pardon me if I don't sound convinced.

 

[Armoured]

Our voting machines couldn't be hacked by anybody else?

Anyway, we know who brought us Wikileaks. His name is Julian Assange.

The same Julian Assange certain leading neocon demagouges wanted executed for treason against the US. Seriously, the way you guys flip flop between loving then hating then loving again different people and countries makes "we have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia" lose all impact.