Puppy taken from homeless man by animal rights activists

[Fireinfolding]

Homeless isn't a race. While the article indicated these thieves were racist against Roma, known as Gypsy, and that's why they stole the dog. Because the thieves opposed the Gypsy from using the dog as a tool to help with his begging.
Isn't that pathetic. A homeless dog is being fed along with his homeless owner because the owner works at begging for both their sakes. And that's just wrong!

Much better the dog be put in a cage on an adoption countdown clock that results in death should he not be adopted , than two homeless lives find one another and sustain one another together. That's activism!

Beautifully put!

I was thinking, "someone find the words to say what most of us our feeling"

Perfect, Lord bless you

 

[smaneck]

Me neither actually. We live rurally and take in whichever dogs stroll onto our property looking hungry and feed them and they have lived very long happy lives, and they didnt have their vaccines either.

Well, I do vaccinate my dog. I also give her heartworm medicine because where I live (Mississippi) a dog either has heartworm, will get heartworm or takes preventative medicine. But I wouldn't think of taking a dog away from someone who can't afford the $10 pill a month for the pill. And to be honest I only give it to my dog during the worst of the mosquito season. If someone is worried about the health of a homeless man's dog offer to vaccinate and have the animal neutered or spayed. Don't take it away and sell the animal for $200!

 

[smaneck]

Thanks, I havent really looked into that myself so I cant say I knew for sure

Some of the information I found was contradictory. The two states I named had laws that explicitly allowed euthanasia by inhalants. But it is possible other states allow it without explicitly saying so. But Alabama had apparently already changed the law to prohibit gas chambers and simply weren't following their own laws at the time this beagle was gassed. I know we closed ours down but there are a few states where the way they are euthanizing animals isn't clear. Still they are usually killed by injection which is humanly administered. According to the article I posted, the reason we aren't using the same protocol for humans is that it would require more direct involvement with the prisoner. We've set up our execution protocols so that no one feels as if they are the executioner. Seems like a poor excuse for needless suffering to me.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Well, I do vaccinate my dog. I also give her heartworm medicine because where I live (Mississippi) a dog either has heartworm, will get heartworm or takes preventative medicine. But I wouldn't think of taking a dog away from someone who can't afford the $10 pill a month for the pill. And to be honest I only give it to my dog during the worst of the mosquito season. If someone is worried about the health of a homeless man's dog offer to vaccinate and have the animal neutered or spayed. Don't take it away and sell the animal for $200!

We never vacinated our goats either, none have ever gotten anything. The only thing they did receive was frontline flea treatments. That was $70 a month (for all) and at the price of that pill would be another $70 (a month for all) not to mention the food, but they were all strays and we never did any of that, and God gave us good fortune with them that way.

They started doing all of that this past century that stuff was never done for thousands of years and people loved their animals without ever doing so.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Some of the information I found was contradictory. The two states I named had laws that explicitly allowed euthanasia by inhalants. But it is possible other states allow it without explicitly saying so. But Alabama had apparently already changed the law to prohibit gas chambers and simply weren't following their own laws at the time this beagle was gassed. I know we closed ours down but there are a few states where the way they are euthanizing animals isn't clear. Still they are usually killed by injection which is humanly administered. According to the article I posted, the reason we aren't using the same protocol for humans is that it would require more direct involvement with the prisoner. We've set up our execution protocols so that no one feels as if they are the executioner.

Yeah, I dont know what all goes on in these animal places, I just thought, how crazy is that. that a dog walks right out of there while no other survived, he was not to die that day. I never forgot that story.

 

[smaneck]

They started doing all of that this past century that stuff was never done for thousands of years and people loved their animals without ever doing so.

Yeah, but we went without vaccinations in those days too.

 

[heatedmonk]

I cant believe that a group exists which hates people and persecutes those who have nothing

You notice this man who had nothing was targeted by thieves who took the only thing he did have. His dog. But they didn't care at all about him. Sadly, no one watching this tragedy did either.

In contrast , in America, because PeTA is overseas as well, the Washington branch had a nifty idea. While trumpeting the obvious, that fur is dead, that's because trying to put your arms through the face of a live mink can get ugly, PeTA not that long ago started an ad campaign asking for fur coat donations!

Yes, fur coats! Bring them to PeTA so they can hand them out to the homeless who can then stay warm in winter while still homeless, no thanks to PeTA.

Homeless suffer abuse and robbery already. You can imagine a thief seeing a homeless woman in a full length sable coat pushing a cart in the winter, right? She'll beee fineee. Absurd pet activists. Gotta love 'em.

Because Jesus says it's morally wrong to duck tape them to a ceiling fan and turn it to high speed.

Drats Jesus! Really?

 

[Fireinfolding]

Yeah, but we went without vaccinations in those days too.

Some folks would actually prefer going without the same and so not all would think that is a negative thing.

 

[Fireinfolding]

You notice this man who had nothing was targeted by thieves who took the only thing he did have. His dog. But they didn't care at all about him. Sadly, no one watching this tragedy did either.

In contrast , in America, because PeTA is overseas as well, the Washington branch had a nifty idea. While trumpeting the obvious, that fur is dead, that's because trying to put your arms through the face of a live mink can get ugly, PeTA not that long ago started an ad campaign asking for fur coat donations!

Yes, fur coats! Bring them to PeTA so they can hand them out to the homeless who can then stay warm in winter while still homeless, no thanks to PeTA.

Homeless suffer abuse and robbery already. You can imagine a thief seeing a homeless woman in a full length sable coat pushing a cart in the winter, right? She'll beee fineee. Absurd pet activists. Gotta love 'em.

Because Jesus says it's morally wrong to duck tape them to a ceiling fan and turn it to high speed.

Drats Jesus! Really?

That was cute

You make too much sense to me to be on this forum
(where did you come from?) lol

 

[brinny]

You notice this man who had nothing was targeted by thieves who took the only thing he did have. His dog. But they didn't care at all about him. Sadly, no one watching this tragedy did either.

In contrast , in America, because PeTA is overseas as well, the Washington branch had a nifty idea. While trumpeting the obvious, that fur is dead, that's because trying to put your arms through the face of a live mink can get ugly, PeTA not that long ago started an ad campaign asking for fur coat donations!

Yes, fur coats! Bring them to PeTA so they can hand them out to the homeless who can then stay warm in winter while still homeless, no thanks to PeTA.

Homeless suffer abuse and robbery already. You can imagine a thief seeing a homeless woman in a full length sable coat pushing a cart in the winter, right? She'll beee fineee. Absurd pet activists. Gotta love 'em.

Because Jesus says it's morally wrong to duck tape them to a ceiling fan and turn it to high speed.

Drats Jesus! Really?

you're right...poor man...what a horrible thing to happen to him....

sad.

You're right about the duct tape.....we can always imagine it's not a duck there, that instead it's the lot of 'em that terrorized and stole from that man.

 

[heatedmonk]

I can't help but hear, "AFLAC!"

Some folks would actually prefer going without the same and so not all would think that is a negative thing.

I was at the store yesterday and the cashier was talking about vaccinations to a customer. Very passionate she was. Adamant that 'they' can't force you to have them and it's healthier. I admired her pluck.

I know families that wait till their newborn is at least 2 years old before they allow them a vaccination. And not a huge flush either but one dose per visit that are spread out over months so as to allow the precious new immune system to adapt to the antibodies.
Wise folks. I think they'll see their children grow up and can expect them to live a long while.
Meanwhile, folks I know that live to their 90's and beyond even in one case were like those you were talking about. No vaccinations. Backwoods folk were growing up. Barefoot, drinking well water, eating honey off the comb, berries off the bush, and fresh kill dad brought home to their off the grid cabin in the mountains.


I doubt with the families we have today that we'll see children who's parents follow protocol and get them vaccinated well before they're 2 living as long as that.

 

[brinny]

I can't help but hear, "AFLAC!"

I was listening to the radio a couple weeks ago and this dr of biology or some kind of expertise in vaccinations was saying how we are making our own selves weak and sick because we are are phobic about organisms, dirt, etc. and what he meant was that children used to play in the dirt, go barefoot, and because they were exposed to organisms, dirt, etc, their immune system was much stronger and thus they were much healthier.

i was surprised to hear him say that, but he raised a good point.



I was at the store yesterday and the cashier was talking about vaccinations to a customer. Very passionate she was. Adamant that 'they' can't force you to have them and it's healthier. I admired her pluck.

I know families that wait till their newborn is at least 2 years old before they allow them a vaccination. And not a huge flush either but one dose per visit that are spread out over months so as to allow the precious new immune system to adapt to the antibodies.
Wise folks. I think they'll see their children grow up and can expect them to live a long while.
Meanwhile, folks I know that live to their 90's and beyond even in one case were like those you were talking about. No vaccinations. Backwoods folk were growing up. Barefoot, drinking well water, eating honey off the comb, berries off the bush, and fresh kill dad brought home to their off the grid cabin in the mountains.


I doubt with the families we have today that we'll see children who's parents follow protocol and get them vaccinated well before they're 2 living as long as that.

 

[brinny]

I can't help but hear, "AFLAC!"




I was at the store yesterday and the cashier was talking about vaccinations to a customer. Very passionate she was. Adamant that 'they' can't force you to have them and it's healthier. I admired her pluck.

I know families that wait till their newborn is at least 2 years old before they allow them a vaccination. And not a huge flush either but one dose per visit that are spread out over months so as to allow the precious new immune system to adapt to the antibodies.
Wise folks. I think they'll see their children grow up and can expect them to live a long while.
Meanwhile, folks I know that live to their 90's and beyond even in one case were like those you were talking about. No vaccinations. Backwoods folk were growing up. Barefoot, drinking well water, eating honey off the comb, berries off the bush, and fresh kill dad brought home to their off the grid cabin in the mountains.


I doubt with the families we have today that we'll see children who's parents follow protocol and get them vaccinated well before they're 2 living as long as that.

i thought i had responded but i can't see my post anywhere

i was listening to the radio a couple weeks ago and a Dr of biology or some kind of vaccinations expert said that we are weakening ourselves and our immune system. He said that children no longer play in the dirt making mud pies, and walking barefoot, etc. which builds their immune systems. He said that society now is phobic about dirt, and organisms, and as a result, our immune systems are not very strong and we get sick much easier.

i was surprised, but he had a point.

 

[keith99]

Why is it considered inhumane treatment of dogs to not vaccinate them and it is defended for humans?

Oh wait, I forgot I already have claimed we treat dogs better than people because of some other attitudes.

 

[keith99]

I can't help but hear, "AFLAC!"




I was at the store yesterday and the cashier was talking about vaccinations to a customer. Very passionate she was. Adamant that 'they' can't force you to have them and it's healthier. I admired her pluck.

I know families that wait till their newborn is at least 2 years old before they allow them a vaccination. And not a huge flush either but one dose per visit that are spread out over months so as to allow the precious new immune system to adapt to the antibodies.
Wise folks. I think they'll see their children grow up and can expect them to live a long while.
Meanwhile, folks I know that live to their 90's and beyond even in one case were like those you were talking about. No vaccinations. Backwoods folk were growing up. Barefoot, drinking well water, eating honey off the comb, berries off the bush, and fresh kill dad brought home to their off the grid cabin in the mountains.


I doubt with the families we have today that we'll see children who's parents follow protocol and get them vaccinated well before they're 2 living as long as that.

Well start doubting. Mom had all recommended vaccinations and still gets an annual flu vaccine. Already in her 90s.

Living in isolation has some huge advantages when it comes to disease, we generally catch things from other people, just as other animals generally catch diseases from other individuals of their species.

Oh and quite a few of those backwoods people actually die before they reach their 5th birthday, we just forget about it cuz they are not there to see.

 

[smaneck]

Some folks would actually prefer going without the same and so not all would think that is a negative thing.

They don't remember what it was like when diseases like polio and small pox ravaged the young. Then you have this silly pseudo-science spreading this nonsense about vaccinations causing autism.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Why is it considered inhumane treatment of dogs to not vaccinate them and it is defended for humans?

Oh wait, I forgot I already have claimed we treat dogs better than people because of some other attitudes.

It might depend on who you are conversaing with as some will use the same to equate that with it whereas others might not. And just as some might be against human vaccines 100% and yet others are not (at least not to that extent) yet others believe we really over vaccinate (and actually cause more harm) and more wont equate having everyone of them as either humane or inhumane given both that and given the whole vaccine idea is pretty new with many a thoussand years behind that without the same. At the same time we have all sorts of things some believe werent around before vaccines.

Mixed group.

 

[Fireinfolding]

They don't remember what it was like when diseases like polio and small pox ravaged the young. Then you have this silly pseudo-science spreading this nonsense about vaccinations causing autism.

You should fill us in with this on this thread here then, I opened it, would love some more information on this

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...-copy-of-destroyed-mmr-vaccine-files.7900346/

 

[smaneck]

Meanwhile, folks I know that live to their 90's and beyond even in one case were like those you were talking about. No vaccinations. Backwoods folk were growing up. Barefoot, drinking well water, eating honey off the comb, berries off the bush, and fresh kill dad brought home to their off the grid cabin in the mountains.

I know people like that too, most of them were African-Americans. The thing is that often half of their brothers and sisters were dead before they had the chance to grow up. And they lost half of their children as well.

I doubt with the families we have today that we'll see children who's parents follow protocol and get them vaccinated well before they're 2 living as long as that.

You realize that our life-expectancy is much higher today than it was in the days before vaccinations?

 

[Fireinfolding]

How old was Noah, Abraham, Moses?

They didnt have vaccines