Tools far pre date man, evolution theory kicked in face

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Al T

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Reading the article, I can see the material is the age they say it is, but other facts seem to be thin on the ground. It doesn't specify what made the authors think the tool was in that 'format' 3m years ago.
Simply speaking, the science of evolution is still a jigsaw puzzle that's been put together. Other creatures on Earth have used tools and have been observed doing so - including dolphins.
No matter what the case, this still doesn't disprove God in any possible way. It's just another interesting fact is all.
 
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Reading the article, I can see the material is the age they say it is, but other facts seem to be thin on the ground. It doesn't specify what made the authors think the tool was in that 'format' 3m years ago.
Simply speaking, the science of evolution is still a jigsaw puzzle that's been put together. Other creatures on Earth have used tools and have been observed doing so - including dolphins.
No matter what the case, this still doesn't disprove God in any possible way. It's just another interesting fact is all.
I mean do you really think all these, made with a sort of anvil and smash hammer,

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were made by these???
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By the end of the 2012 field season, excavations at the site, named Lomekwi 3, had uncovered 149 stone artifacts tied to tool-making, from stone cores and flakes to rocks used for hammering and others possibly used as anvils to strike on."

http://phys.org/news/2015-05-oldest-known-stone-tools-pre-date-homo.html
 
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With all due respect, I didn't say that did I?

I simply pointed out that whilst the rock itself can be dated (and in only general terms at that) there was no indication of how the 'tools' were shaped.

Clearly the chaps in your picture might have problems doing so as they're busy with other matters....
 
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With all due respect, I didn't say that did I?

I simply pointed out that whilst the rock itself can be dated (and in only general terms at that) there was no indication of how the 'tools' were shaped.

Clearly the chaps in your picture might have problems doing so as they're busy with other matters....
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By the end of the 2012 field season, excavations at the site, named Lomekwi 3, had uncovered 149 stone artifacts tied to tool-making, from stone cores and flakes to rocks used for hammering and others possibly used as anvils to strike on."

http://phys.org/news/2015-05-oldest-known-stone-tools-pre-date-homo.html
 
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Thank you dad, for the additional article.

Should I take it that since you are quite keen on proving that that the tools were made 3 million years ago that this is now your position and that the delightful pictures you included were indeed of the culprits?

Glad we cleared that up then! :oldthumbsup:
 
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Thank you dad, for the additional article.

Should I take it that since you are quite keen on proving that that the tools were made 3 million years ago that this is now your position and that the delightful pictures you included were indeed of the culprits?

Glad we cleared that up then! :oldthumbsup:

No. The tools, as I think about it may be post flood, which means less than 5000 years old. If they were pre flood, then maybe some of them were for violence to mankind. That period was noted for violence. They could be for opening dino eggs for all we know.

The reason I cited the dating was to show how the evolutionists are hoisted on their own petard. They have tools made a half million (imaginary) years before ever there was a man (by their own accounts).

I think it is obvious animals didn't do this.

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By the end of the 2012 field season, excavations at the site, named Lomekwi 3, had uncovered 149 stone artifacts tied to tool-making, from stone cores and flakes to rocks used for hammering and others possibly used as anvils to strike on."

http://phys.org/news/2015-05-oldest-known-stone-tools-pre-date-homo.html
 
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Lol, as the photo seemed to show social grooming, admittedly of an unusual part of the anatomy, it wasn't a very successful choice.
I forgot there were some with sexual hang ups here. It just struck me as a pic of how stupid animals really are...not tool factory makers.
 
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I forgot there were some with sexual hang ups here. It just struck me as a pic of how stupid animals really are...not tool factory makers.
But chimpanzees are tool makers and tool users. They are not as stupid as you think that they are. You had pictures of young there. Human babies don't make or use tools either so that photo was not a fair representation.
 
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But chimpanzees are tool makers and tool users.

Yah right..

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They are not as stupid as you think that they are. You had pictures of young there. Human babies don't make or use tools either so that photo was not a fair representation.

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Come on now. You really think some dumb chimp is going to make an anvil and hammer and start making tools?
 
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There is one statement that always comes up that I find amusing as it is repeated over and over on these threads but never with the scientific explanation that is supposedly lacking. "You know shockingly little about science."
 
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