Ive been wondering where or what Jesus did when He was dead for three days. Where was His Spirit? Does the bible truly tell us?
Ive been wondering where or what Jesus did when He was dead for three days. Where was His Spirit? Does the bible truly tell us?
....Jesus’ soul was in hell..
Absolute deceptive comment!!!
In reference to 1 Peter 3:18-20, first of all, notice how Christ preached to those spirits in prison. He did it by the Spirit, and that word is capitalized in your Bible. It actually refers to the Holy Spirit. So whatever Christ did in preaching during this period of time, He did it through or by the Holy Spirit.
With that in view, let's ask this: When was the preaching done? The answer is plainly given in verse 20, "When once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing." So the preaching was actually done while the ark was being built-- during the preaching of Noah to that antediluvian world.
Now, one more question: To whom was the preaching done? The text says here "to the spirits in prison." Throughout the Bible we find this terminology used in describing those who are bound in the prison house of sin. David prayed "Bring my soul out of prison." Psalm 142:7. Paul spoke of his experience in these words, "bringing me into captivity to the law of sin." Romans 7:23.
What Peter is telling us here is simply that Christ through the Holy Spirit was present while Noah preached; Christ was there through the Holy Spirit to speak conviction to their hearts and appeal to them to come into the ark. There is absolutely nothing here which indicates that Jesus departed from the body during the time He was dead to go to any subterranean place to minister to wicked spirits. The three questions are clearly answered in the text itself, that He preached by the Holy Spirit, He did it while the ark was preparing, and He did it to the spirits in prison or to those individuals whose sinful lives were bound in the prison house of sin.
BESIDES, the Scripture is clear. Read Luke 23:46
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost
WHERE was the Heavenly Father? In Heaven of course. Surely you don't claim Father God is in hell too?
The Scriptures indicate that Christ by the Holy Spirit was preaching through Noah to the spirits of those sin-bound people in Noahs day.
The Spirit preached through Noah just as the HS has preached to every generation to whom God sent his human messengers. And it is Christ through the Spirit who done this. Noah was a 'preacher of righteousness"(2Peter 2:5) Christ's humanity truly DIED and Jesus slept in the grave in the death of sleep.
The preaching was done "by the Spirit" (verse 18) in Noah's day to people who were then living (verses 19, 20). The "spirits in prison" refers to people whose lives were in bondage to Satan. (See Psalm 142:7; Isaiah 42:6, 7; 61:1; and Luke 4:18.)
"All that are in the graves shall hear His voice, and shall come forth." John 5:28, 29. "David . . . is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day." "For David is not ascended into the heavens." Acts 2:29, 34. "If I wait, the grave is mine house." Job 17:13.
People do not go either to heaven or "hell" at death. They go to their graves to await the resurrection day.
Jesus was asleep in the grave until He was resurrected!
Jesus did go to hades though. The question would be what is hades?
Very well explained. I have nothing else to add.
The Greek word Hades is a word for the grave. Hades is the Greek equivalent of Sheol. Beyond any question, "sheol" or "hades" is a place of death, darkness & silence.
1 Samuel 2:9
He will guard the feet of his faithful servants,
but the wicked will be silenced in the place of darkness.
It is not by strength that one prevails;
In addition, neither the OT or NT ever speaks of "sheol" or "hades" as a realm of life. Only in the poetical imagery of Isaiah [14:4-11]and the Parable of the rich man and Lazarus are those committed to "sheol" or "hades" said to perform acts of the living. Purely and clearly figurative.
In the NT, 10 times from "Hades," which means "the grave".
An interesting point to note is that Hades cannot be the place of hell-fire since the KJV clearly says that hell itself (Hades) will be cast in to the lake of fire! How can this be so? If Hades (hell in the KJV) is fire how can it be cast into itself? See Rev 20:14. The obvious meaning of the text is that "death and hell [the grave, the place of the dead] were cast into the lake of fire", that is all that is a reminder of sin will be exterminated!
Thank you.
And I wonder why would God have a resurrection if people are already alive in heaven.
Makes no sense at all. So the thief on the cross would have been in heaven 2000+ years now. It would mean he would have already put on immortality but then the bible says the only one who is immortal is God and also that at the second coming this mortal shall put on immortality.
Well my Bible says that the thief didn't actually die that day. Read John 19:32-33. Why would they break his legs and stop him from getting away if he was already dead?
There was absolutely NO punctuation marks in the original Scriptures. They were not introduced until many centuries after the NT was written. Only the earliest manuscripts have only a occasional dot or point and sometimes a space.
English translations confuses it! Jesus said "I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise! Talking about future day.
If Jesus told the thief "verily I say unto thee To day, shalt thou be with me in paradise", then how come He three days later told Mary that He had not yet ascended to His Father?
Let me answer this for you. Our bodies, which are of this world, go to the grave. Our spirits don't. They either go to heaven or hell. In the resurrection, our bodies will be changed so that they will be immortal and will not die because our spirits already don't die.And I wonder why would God have a resurrection if people are already alive in heaven.
Let me answer this for you. Our bodies, which are of this world, go to the grave. Our spirits don't. They either go to heaven or hell. In the resurrection, our bodies will be changed so that they will be immortal and will not die because our spirits already don't die.
Lazarus died. His spirit returned to God. When one's spirit returns to God it does not mean another form of existence. Your spirit is not a conscious entity, that is why the bible says the dead knows nothing. When Lazarus was resurrected, he didn't tell of his awesome experience in heaven because he was dead. Jesus' spirit went back to God when he died as the bible says, yet Jesus said that he had not yet ascended into heaven showing that after his death he did not live on in another form of existence.
The spirit is not another form of existence. As humans, we are souls. That is how we are made. That is our form of existence. God is not a soul but a spirit. That is his existence. As we have borne the image of the earthly (Adam, living soul) so we shall bear the image of the heavenly (Jesus, quickening spirit). Until our bodies are changed, we cannot exist as a spirit entity like Jesus. The spirit we have that God gave to us is the breathe of life. The spirit is not another form of existence. As humans, we are souls. That is how we are made. That is our form of existence. God is not a soul but a spirit. That is his existence. As we have borne the image of the earthly (Adam, living soul) so we shall bear the image of the heavenly (Jesus, quickening spirit). Until our bodies are changed, we cannot exist as a spirit entity like Jesus. The spirit we have that God gave to us is the breathe of life.
Then explain this verse:
1 Thessalonians 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
If our spirits are not conscious entities, then how can it not be blameless. Paul included all three in that verse because all three have a possibility of not being blameless.
How can Jesus be a spirit entity when he has flesh?
Luke 24:39
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
I think you have forgotten that Jesus did not begin life on earth as a baby. He only came here and became human to die for us. After that he would have returned to his 100% divine nature.
No, I have not forgotten. I'm just showing you that Jesus is not a spirit entity as you said he was. He is flesh and bone. When our bodies are changed, we will also be flesh and bone instead of flesh and blood.
Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Because He said so Himself.I have shown you from scripture that Jesus is a quickening spirit. Why do you say that he is flesh and bone.
Because He said so Himself.
Luke 24:39
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.