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Democrats flip Miami mayor’s office, winning control for first time in nearly 30 years

Great, another American city will now turn into a hotbed of illegal drug activity, crime, and debauchery. I give it a week before communist Cuban flags are flying everywhere and Spanish in spoken openly in the streets and shops. Good job Democrats.
Shows you what perseverance can do.
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Archbishop performs rite of reparation at Annunciation Catholic Church after shooting

Three months after a deadly shooting in Minneapolis that left two students dead and injured 18 others as well as three adults, Archbishop Bernard Hebda, along with Auxiliary Bishops Kevin Kenney and Michael Izen, said a special Mass at Annunciation Catholic Church on Dec. 6 that included a rite of reparation to restore the church for worship.

On Aug. 27, Robin Westman — who was born “Robert” and identified as a woman –shot through the stained glass windowsof the church during a morning Mass filled with Annunciation school students in first through eighth grade, killing Fletcher Merkel, eight, and Harper Moyski, 10.

Westman, who had posted anti-Christian and explicit messages on social media before the attack, then killed himself at the scene.

"Our Blessed Mother lived this faith and cooperated with God's plan for her life, despite the difficulties it would occasion,” Hebda prayed outside the building just before the Dec. 6 Mass. “We profess that our souls now will rejoin hers in proclaiming the greatness of the Lord in this church, dedicated in her honor, and now reclaimed for the glory of God."

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Pope says Trump Ukraine plan would weaken U.S. alliance with Europe

Pope Leo XIV said President Donald Trump’s plan to end Russia’s war against Ukraine threatens to break apart the alliance between Europe and the United States.

Asked by reporters Dec. 9 to comment on the initiative's fairness, the pope said, “I would rather not comment on that. I haven’t read the whole thing. Unfortunately, some parts I have seen make a huge change in what was for many years a true alliance between the EU and U.S.”

The pope commented to reporters after meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at Castel Gandolfo.

Pope Leo said, “The remarks [by Trump] that were made about Europe recently are, I think, trying to break apart what I think is an important alliance today and in the future. It’s a program that President Trump and his advisers put together, and he’s the president of the U.S. And he has a right to do that.”

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Did angels really carry the Holy House of Mary to Loreto, Italy?

What do Galileo, Mozart, Descartes, Cervantes, and St. Thérèse of Lisieux have in common? They all traveled hundreds of miles to step inside the Virgin Mary’s house, which is preserved inside a basilica in the small Italian town of Loreto.

Catholic pilgrims have flocked to the Holy House of Loreto since the 14th century to stand inside the walls where tradition holds the Virgin Mary was born, raised, and greeted by the angel Gabriel.

In other words, if it is actually the house of Nazareth, it is where the “Word became flesh” at the Annunciation, a point on which the history of humanity turned.

There is an often-repeated story that angels carried the Holy House from Palestine to Italy and while modern listeners may doubt the legend’s veracity, historic documents have vindicated the beliefs of pious pilgrims over the centuries — with an ironic twist.

Tradition holds that the Holy House arrived in Loreto on Dec. 10, 1294, after a miraculous rescue from the Holy Land as the Crusaders were driven out of Palestine at the end of the 13th century.

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Disability advocates sue Delaware over allegedly ‘discriminatory’ assisted suicide law

Several disability and patient advocacy groups filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court in Delaware on Dec. 8 alleging that Delaware’s new physician-assisted suicide law discriminates against people with disabilities.

In May 2025, Delaware passed a bill legalizing physician-assisted suicide for terminally ill adults with a prognosis of six months or less to live. The law, which goes into effect Jan. 1, 2026, allows patients to self-administer lethal medication.

The 74-page complaint alleges that the new law is unconstitutional under both Delaware and federal law and violates the Americans with Disabilities Act as well as the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause, among other challenges.

Plaintiffs include the Institute for Patients’ Rights; The Freedom Center for Independent Living, Inc., in Middletown; the Delaware chapter of ADAPT; Not Dead Yet; United Spinal Association, the National Council on Independent Living; and disability advocate Sean Curran.

The lawsuit, which names Gov. Matthew Meyer and the Delaware Department of Health and Human Services as two of several defendants, said that “people with life-threatening disabilities” are at “imminent risk” because of Delaware's new law.

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‘Persecuted and thriving’: Catholic priest on resilience of Christians in Nigeria

Christians in Nigeria continue to demonstrate resilience and vitality amid violent assaults by extremist groups such as Boko Haram, a priest from the West African country has said.

In a recent interview with Christian Peschken of EWTN Germany, CNA’s news partner, Father Maurice Emelu, now a U.S. citizen and founder of Gratia Vobis Ministries, describes the extraordinary ability of faith in Nigeria to blossom “in harsh soil.”

“In Nigeria, faith grows in the very places where life tries to break it. Our people are not romanticizing pain; they are discovering Christ in it,” Emelu said. “The Church thrives not because our challenges are small but because grace is stubborn. Grace has a way of blooming in harsh soil.”

In an attempt to describe the persecution of Christians in Nigeria, he said, “Suffering here has a face… Violence and killings happen with such astonishing frequency that one feels it isn’t real. People tell me many killings never even reach the media. The pain is simply unbearable.”

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Will you let the bible ...

Why conjure the severe (or severest scenarios) to apply? None of us really can travel to a black hole, it is really more possible that a black hole would be traveling toward us. If so we could not escape. And from what is known with physics we could not survive that. Modern depictions of hell that I find from anyone are not what I would speak of as being reality. Fair judgment could be applied to all, of humans. Everyone would be without excuse for not looking, earlier people are included, There must be some from earlier times that we who would be saved will find have been saved too. The difference since the gospel of Christ has been revealed is that its message is available and being spread, for much more opportunity to all those reached to respond, along with all that is made known of Christ provided to them. Earlier individuals might have only responded for themselves without a message from them that would have others more likely to come to that than they already were. Abraham would have been pretty unique with effectively spreading faith of the one true God who should be trusted. A few others who were earlier were shown doing that too, still.

With fairness of justice in judgment from God it would be fairly applied to those apart from deliverance in Christ, who bore all of what is needed for any who come to him, that they are covered in him. As God he could bear all of that, which no mere human could do, so that deliverance is available. Conjuring the most extreme sentences imagined for others would not dispense the fairness in judgment that God can and will apply to any that remain apart from the deliverance provided. The fairness amounts to the different degrees any will suffer throughout the afterlife they come to, when there is the judgment for them, that will be with fair justice to them, for each.
Who knows, indeed? We can only speculate based on the paltry number of verses in the Bible. I, for one, hardly wish this fate on anyone, even the vilest person living. You did pose the apparent conundrum of an eternal fate of being in an outer darkness as well as in a lake of fire. The God of the universe is quite capable of doing anything, I believe, and to transport a soul to one of the vast number of black holes is hardly beyond His power. The only object in the universe of which I am aware which is intensely and infinitely dark, as well as incalculably hot at the same time is a black hole. Apart from His mercy and grace in Jesus Christ, we have no hope at all.
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Pew study: Religion holds steady in America

The number of American adults who identify with Christianity, with another religion, or with no religion have all remained steady, a new Pew Research Center report finds.

Surveys conducted since 2020 have generally found that about 70% of U.S. adults identify with a religion. The numbers have slightly fluctuated, but there has been no clear rise or fall in religious affiliation over the five-year period.

A Pew Research Center study, Religion Holds Steady in America, summarizes the latest trends in American religion and examines religion among young adults. The report is based on Pew’s National Public Opinion Reference Survey(NPORS), which has annually surveyed a random sample of U.S. adults since 2020. It also draws from the U.S. Religious Landscape Study (RLS), which surveyed 36,908 adults from July 17, 2023 to March 4, 2024.

The report also uses data from the General Social Survey and the American Time Use Survey.

The research revealed that after Pew found a decline in Christianity in the country from 2007 to 2020, the decline has halted and there is a stable presence of Christianty and religion in the nation.

Young women’s religiosity shifts​


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A look at how world’s 5 Communist countries are cracking down on Christians: report

Governments in the world’s five remaining Communist countries are intensifying control over Christian churches, according to an analysis by a persecution watchdog, which says churches are facing growing legal, financial and operational restrictions under regimes in China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea and Vietnam.

Authorities in China require churches to register with the state and operate under a system called Sinicization, which mandates that sermons and practices incorporate Chinese cultural elements and Communist Party ideology, according to an analysis by the U.S.-based group International Christian Concern.

Churches in China must also submit to financial audits by government officials and disclose all sources and uses of funding, it adds.

A 2022 regulation known as the Measures for the Financial Management of Venues for Religious Activities empowers Chinese religious affairs departments to inspect and audit church assets, the report explains. Article 43 of the regulation states that relevant government departments may conduct inspections of religious activity sites, it points out.

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To Speaker Mike Johnson: FACE Act needs a full repeal

This week marks a significant turning point in the national debate over political violence, free speech and federal overreach. AFA Action — joined by more than 50 pro-life, family-policy, and religious-liberty organizations — sent a sweeping coalition letter to Speaker Mike Johnson urging immediate and full repeal of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act.

The FACE Act makes it a federal crime to use physical force, threat of physical force, or physical obstruction to interfere with anyone seeking an abortion, or exercising their First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship.

The breadth of this coalition is itself newsworthy. It reflects a growing consensus across the conservative movement that this law is no longer a neutral safeguard but a deeply politicized weapon that undermines constitutional rights.

For decades, critics of the FACE Act have warned that its vague language and broad prosecutorial powers make it ripe for abuse. But the coalition letter represents a new level of urgency. These 50+ organizations are not merely raising concerns — they are sounding the alarm that the FACE Act has become a serious and escalating threat to peaceful citizens whose only “crime” is acting on their deeply held convictions.

The assault on Charlie Kirk underscores the urgency

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Review: Kevin Costner brings gritty, reverent lens to Nativity in 'The First Christmas'

I wish I had saw your thread sooner. I would've made sure to experience that unique angle of the nativity ordeal.
I thought it was very good. I recorded it. It’s a good description of the times and culture they lived in.
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Why Is It So Hard for Christians to Talk About Justice and Greed?

Yes, but we are called to preach the gospel, the solution to all problems. We are called to alieve suffering and injustice where we can. It is to be a personal private and direct hands on action. The problem for us is how do we define social Justice? For some it is paying restitution for slavery. For some it is vilifying a certain race or gender or both as oppressors. For some it is scapegoating other people for their own problems.

Once we identify true injustice we must ask what can I do for these people directly. And we should do it without public fanfare.
I absolutely agree that Christians are called to care about suffering and injustice—but always in a way that flows out of the gospel itself. Jesus sends us first and foremost to proclaim the good news that heals the human heart (Mark 16:15; Romans 1:16). The gospel is the root from which all true justice and mercy grow.

Scripture is clear that we are to relieve suffering whenever it is within our power to do so. Jesus praised the Samaritan who acted with practical compassion (Luke 10:33–37), and James reminds us that “pure and undefiled religion” includes caring for those in need (James 1:27). But the New Testament consistently portrays this as personal, humble, hands-on obedience—not public performance or moral grandstanding (Matthew 6:1–4).

And that leads to the real challenge: how do we even define “social justice”? The phrase means very different things to different people. For some, it means financial restitution for ancestral wrongs. For others, it involves vilifying whole groups as oppressors based on race or gender. Still others use it as a way to blame others for the problems of the world. These modern frameworks often go far beyond anything Scripture commands.

So the Christian question becomes simpler and more faithful: Where do I see real, biblical injustice—and what can I personally do for the person in front of me? When we discern a genuine wrong, our call is to act in love, quietly and sacrificially, just as Jesus taught. “Whatever you wished others would do to you, do also to them” (Matthew 7:12). And we do it without fanfare, because our Father “who sees in secret will reward you” (Matthew 6:4).

In short, the gospel is the solution, and compassion is our fruit. We preach Christ, relieve suffering where we can, and do it all with humility, sincerity, and love.
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With Respect...in Fellowship

I am a High Church Anglican, married for over twenty years to a man who survived severe mistreatment at a Catholic boarding school run by The Society of Jesus in the 1950's. My husband has been offerred an in person apology from the current Provincial Superior, and he is intending to travel to London to meet him on the 19th of December, in order to receive it.

My husband and I would both appreciate the prayers of any Catholic members of Christian Forums regarding this meeting, for his protection (and my own) as we prepare and travel, and especially for his first encounter with any Jesuit since he left school. I will be going to London with him, but he has said that he wishes to actually experience the meeting alone. This is the bravest thing I believe I have ever personally witnessed someone doing for the Christian faith, and I trust that some who are seeing this post can understand how I hope my life partner will feel Jesus' love and see true recognition of past wrongs.

No judgement of your Church is intended by this post, my own has as much to be ashamed of in terms of letting God down over children entrusted to it's care.
God bless you both and many prayers for you and for those representing the Catholic Church as well.
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Is skepticism even rational at this point?

The Christian God has always been defined as timeless, immaterial, and who caused matter into existence. Skeptics continue to claim, however, that there isn’t enough evidence to warrant reasonable belief in the existence of God. With modern science, I believe that denying the inferences to God can only be sustained by playing skeptical games. Let me explain why.

I am reading the currently released English translation of an international bestseller, originally written in French (2021) by Michel-Yves Bollore and Olivier Bonnassies. The research is comprehensive. Their purpose is not to defend a particular religious belief. The authors unpack how in the history of science inferential indicators of God were often discouraged, but not for scientific reasons. In God, the Science, the Evidence: the Dawn of a Revolution, they explained:

“Our ability to accept a claim, scientific or otherwise, depends on more than rational evidence. . . The phenomenon is particularly acute when one broaches the subject of the existence of God, because what is at stake is not just some point of scientific data but the very meaning of our life... For many people, the desire to be free and autonomous ... takes precedence over everything else. Their inmost-self recoils from this idea of God: to defend itself, it mobilizes all its intellectual resources to oppose the search for truth and to protect its own perceived independence and freedom.” [1]
“This phenomenon” of defending skepticism when challenged by the subject of God was also critiqued by the authors saying, “instead of stimulating thoughtful discussion, the subject often provokes reactions ranging from annoyed indifference to ridicule, contempt, and even violence.”[2] I am being convinced that a skeptic is suppressing inferential knowledge of God for personal reasons. Furthermore, it’s not difficult to discern how the rhetorical games of skepticism are necessary to keep denials going.

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Skillet's John Cooper talks legalism, absolute truth and ‘demonic’ label on new Christmas song

When a small, yet vocal group of critics labeled Skillet’s new Christmas single, a rock 'n’ roll version of “O Come, O Come Emmanuel,” as “demonic,” frontman John Cooper didn’t react defensively. Instead, he laughed. Because, in his words, the response felt familiar and something he's been navigating for almost his entire life.

The 50-year-old Grammy-nominated artist grew up in a deeply conservative Christian home where rock music — especially Christian rock — was viewed as a spiritual danger.

“I grew up in a very fundamentalist home,” he told The Christian Post. “I went to Bill Gothard seminars as a young person because my family was so into that stuff.”

His late mother, who died from cancer when he was 15, remains one of the most important figures in shaping his spiritual foundation. She was, in his words, a “Jesus fanatic” who taught him the Bible and helped him memorize Scripture.

“I've got nothing negative to say about my mom in the world. She was amazing,” he said.

But his upbringing, the singer shared, also included a strain of legalism.

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Is Gaza ceasefire line ‘a new border’?

The “yellow line” that divides Gaza under the ceasefire plan is now claimed as the “new border”. The IDF Chief Eyal Zamir, said Israel would hold to the current lines behind the yellow line would be held as the border of Israel and presumably defended as such. Here are the facts..

"Military chief says current division of Strip is a ‘forward defensive line for the communities and an offensive line,’ hours after PM says phase 2 of ceasefire deal is imminent
During a visit to the Gaza Strip on Sunday, IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir said that the Yellow Line, demarcating where the Israeli military withdrew to under the terms of the ongoing ceasefire, is “a new border line.”

“We will not allow Hamas to reestablish itself. We control large parts of the Gaza Strip and stand along [strategic] lines. The Yellow Line is a new border line, a forward defensive line for the communities and an offensive line,” Zamir said during a tour of Beit Hanoun and Jabalia, in remarks provided by the IDF." ... https://www.timesofisrael.com/touri...-zamir-says-gaza-ceasefire-line-a-new-border/

... IDF chief: Gaza's Yellow Line is Israel's new border line | The Jerusalem Post

Rising number of Brits leaving Christianity turning to paganism

Christianity has been declining in Britain & Continental Europe..
- for many years.
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Interesting to note:
'Protestant Missions' started in Britain..
- 18th century
- in English speaking world.
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William Carey
- Missionary from Britain to India..
- He has been called the father of
- 'Modern Mission Movement'.
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The Black Madonna on Pilgrimage

Poland cannot be fully understood without Mary. Without her, one cannot grasp what Poland truly is, nor discern its divine calling and ultimate mission. The Virgin Mary stands at the very heart of Poland’s history — a history in which, the destiny of a nation has become intertwined with the mystery of faith.

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