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Matthew Dowd Fired from MSNBC For Vile Comments Blaming Charlie Kirk For Assassination

Point of clarification - Dowd (the MSNBC commentator) is not one of the people who are alleging wrongful termination. MSNBC is well within its rights, as a private company, to fire him for his speech.
Shame on me for not checking again. Thanks for the correction.
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Is there a Biblical mandate on what the role of government should be?

Maybe not as a model, but to develop some governing principles. Unless you are suggesting we abstain from engaging in politics entirely, we cannot separate our voting conscience from our faith. This isn't about establishing a kingdom on Earth, but about conforming our political ideas to what God values in government.

There's no hot take answer to what "God values in government" in that manner. Anybody that tells you otherwise is attempting to manipulate you, and can be immediately discounted for that reason alone.
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Is Romans 3:25 in the Greek in ANY manuscript version the same? (Some who knows greek - help)

Thanks, that's not clear though - and seems to indicate the opposite of what I've found. KJV modifies nothing - unless I'm confused on your meaning of "modify" - it is a literal translation from greek - hence - no modification. Is this right?
"Modify" is just the grammatical way of saying that the question is what the prepositional phase "by/in His blood" goes with.

- Some think it goes with the verb "put forth", Usually this takes blood as signifying the death, and may take hilistarion as mercy seat, or a place of reconciliation.

- Some think with the noun propitiation/sacrifice, signifying it is a sacrice of propitiation by blood.

- Some think with faith, by faith in His blood.
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Morality without Absolute Morality

You claim it's just a subjective preference, but then you act as if it is an objective issue. You aren't consistent in maintaining that it's just your subjective preference, because you act as if it is well and truly wrong not just distasteful to you.
I act on it because it is distasteful to me.
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Do you believe a Christian can no longer be a believer?

  • A person can be "permanently lost" if they persistently reject the Holy Spirit's guidance, which is considered the unforgivable sin (blasphemy of the Holy Spirit). This is a deliberate, willful, and ongoing rejection of the path to salvation.
The lost can be found.

God does not passively wait for people to come to Him. Rather, He actively seeks out those who are lost until they are found. The shepherd leaves the 99 sheep to go after the one that is lost, demonstrating God's persistent and personal pursuit.

ALL have sinned ... all start out in a "lost condition" ... that can be changed by the power on the Holy Spirit.
You tried to dodge the question, but your answer cannot be hidden. You do know that promoting the doctrine of sinless perfection is not allowed on this site, right?
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Fr. Josiah On Pornography, and Nick Fuentes

Which, for me, begs the question; why would Fr Josiah give two hoots promoting him or his ilk? Why would any Orhodox Christian promote this?
I don't understand.
Awful people with large followings get large followings by being good at reaching out to people and getting them to say oh this is a decent conservative (or whatever) guy with a large following, sure, I'll collaborate with you.
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Uruguay gets 99% of their NRG...

This got me wondering if there are other nations with 100% or close to for renewable energy. There are a several as the following link demonstrates.

The first part of the article gives total renewable power, the second part is the national percentage provided by renewable sources.


China generates the greatest total followed by the USA, 2894 TWh and 965 TWh respectively. Compare this to Uruguay's total generation of 12 TWh.

But they drop to 31% and 22% respectively as a percentage of their total energy requirements, placed 101 and 119 in global ranking..

Most of the nations which have 100% renewable energy or near to it seem to have significant water reserves for hydroelectric generation.

My own country Australia is water poor, with our national average about 420mm per year, and that's unevenly spread. Tully in North Queensland averages over 4 metres of rain a year, whereas Alice Springs gets around 290mm (a bit less than a foot). We're the second driest continent after Antarctica, with about 70% considered arid or semi-arid, and 18% desert.

The smallest island state Tasmania generates all its power from hydroelectricity, but overall only 6% of the national consumption is hydroelectric.

Solar provides 16% and wind 12%. They'll both go up but it will take time. We've got the disadvantage of a big country with long power lines, and not a big population to pay for it.

Uruguay has a small population but they are also a small country, only about 2.6 times the size of our smallest state so they have some advantages.
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PTSD, TBI, Anxiety/Depression, Alcohol Abuse...

Prolonged Exposure started to work but then it became more harmful than good. It made every emotion associated with my trauma inaccessible except for the really intense ones (I'm guessing it was just too much to bury). Not only do I have multiple traumas, but each with a unique dynamic, and very different from each other. I've done (takes a deep breath in): prolonged exposure, CPT, CBT, EMDR, talk therapy, equine therapy, and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, as well as substance treatment. Psychedelic treatment is likely not an option due to the use of psychedelics during my worst trauma (witnessing a murder). Somatic Experiencing is literally my last option. I know nothing about it except what I've read online.
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What Jesus Said About Adam and Eve

He literally did:

Tell me, you who want to be under the law, do you not understand the law? For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. But one, the son by the slave woman, was born by natural descent, while the other, the son by the free woman, was born through the promise. These things may be treated as an allegory, for these women represent two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai bearing children for slavery; this is Hagar. Now Hagar represents Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. For it is written: "Rejoice, O barren woman who does not bear children; break forth and shout, you who have no birth pains, because the children of the desolate woman are more numerous than those of the woman who has a husband." But you, brothers and sisters, are children of the promise like Isaac. But just as at that time the one born by natural descent persecuted the one born according to the Spirit, so it is now. But what does the scripture say? "Throw out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman will not share the inheritance with the son" of the free woman. Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman but of the free woman. (Galatians 4:21-31)​

What translation are you using?
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Tucker Carlson’s interview with far-right antisemite Nick Fuentes divides conservatives over support for Israel

So you don't understand the connection that was being made between baking cookies and the krematorien of the Nazi concentration camps?
Well I thought I did, maybe I'm wrong. What do you think the connection is?
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What is currently on your mind?

I can see how it would feel like that in America. I think, from Australia, it's easier to have a little more hope.
Hope is nice, but depends on what our hope is based. This week I saw evidence of an expression of bias that wouldn't be allowed in most businesses and government organizations because it makes it appear that this view or that view is officially endorsed. For that reason you don't put political stickers on company vehicles, and you sure don't on a government vehicle.

The problem comes from what's displayed beneath our avatars. We can alter it or let the CF software generate it, and in some cases it displays an administrative tie to DF. The latter is like wearing a company uniform. Those of us who wear/have worn uniforms know that what we say and do while in uniform can be seen as official positions of the company or organization.The opinions we have while out of uniform don't necessarily have that same overtone and we are more free to express ourselves.

Just pointing that out is likely to get me in trouble here. At the moment can't say that I care all that much. CF does lean in a particular direction, some political, some moral. As Overton windows go, the shrubbery seems to have grown over part of it.

The question is whether I want to be a part of that. I know someone who frequents an online comic / blog and then reports on what he finds objectionable there. My take is why bother? If you know they are going to take such and such positions on things and denigrate yours, what's the point? Just get up and go. Fretting over it isn't worth it.
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“Most Holy Theotokos, Save Us!” – on the New Vatican Document about Marian Titles

“Most Holy Theotokos, Save Us!” This is the common refrain of the Byzantine liturgy. Ὑπεραγία Θεοτόκε, σῶσον ἡμᾶς. This is the cry of any soul who knows that he is punished justly for his sins and he has no merits by which to plead with the Just Judge. He also knows that the demons are so much more powerful than him. Therefore he cries out to his mother to save him.

Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

Verse 8 is not about the Sabbath rest as clearly shown in the Greek.https://www.christianforums.com/threads/are-professed-christians-that-worship-our-lord-on-sunday-instead-of-saturday-sinning.8337029/post-78305394

Verse 9 is about the Sabbath rest Heb4:9NIV which the Sabbath rest is according to the commandment. Luke23:56

Verse 10 shows clearly these two different rests this entire passage is referring to - the rest we enter in Christ through faith and the Sabbath rest, which is on the seventh day, the day God rested Heb4:4 Exo20:11 Gen2:1-3 we are told as well, for those who Also entered His rest.

Heb4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also (meaning they are doing something else in addition and it tells us plainly what that is) ceased from his works as God did from His.

This passage tells us when God ceased from His works, that one also does for those who has entered His rest through faith

Heb 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way:

When did God speak in a certain place of the seventh day in this way. What the writer of Hebrews is bringing us back to. There is only one...

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying:

8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.


Heb4:4“And God rested on the seventh day from all His works;

Exo 20: 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

There is no need to go outside what the Scriptures are saying.

We do not receive spiritual rest in Christ if we are being disobedient to one of His commandments.. What this passage is warning and why those before never entered because of disobedience during the trial of the wilderness Heb4:6 what David was referring the author is quoting Psa 95:7-13 and sadly what is being taught today is the exact reason many never entered into their promise land Eze20:13 that we are told not to follow in their path of disobedience Heb4:11 because its the same laws that guard the gates of heaven (our promise land) Rev22:14-15 Rev 11:18-19 rebelling against God's commandments is not the way back to reconciliation. He died for our sins, He will help us forsake our sins if we turn from them 1 John 1:9 Pro28:13 He will enable us to keep them through our love and cooperation John14:15-18 He will not force them on us and if we continue in that path, there remains no more sacrifice Heb10:26-30

Jesus never abrogated any of His commandments. He said come to Him He will give us rest Mat11:28 quoting Psa38:3 and still kept the Sabbath day holy Luke4:16, it was never one or the other. Christ rest does not delete our moral obligation to keep the 4th commandment or any of God's commandments that He defined as His Exo20:6 Deut4:13 Exo31:18 .

Isa 48:18 Oh, that you had heeded My commandments!
Then your peace would have been like a river,
And your righteousness like the waves of the sea.

Lets all enter Christ's rest through faith, allowing the God of the Universe to define His commandments and He did so plainly. Man can't change anything not a jot or tittle because we are not God and called to be servants Isa56:1-7 and a servant is not greater than their master.
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Prayers for the Departed

V Day within the Octave of All Saints

Editor’s note: reminder that anyone who devoutly visits a cemetery during the Octave (between November 1st and 8th), praying — even mentally — for the departed, may obtain one plenary indulgence per day, applicable only to the souls in Purgatory, under the usual conditions.

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God's Olive tree awaits all nations to rejoin and meet his Son

Thank you for your thoughts, it was a sonnet a call back to God's people to. I got that line about the Gentile's from Romans 11. I will paste more of it here, what capacity do you think it is written as the scripture is about calling people back to God's Olive tree. I have liked that one for decades. I have changed it though and thank you for pointing it out.

Romans 11- which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Great; Romans 11 (and the rest of Romans also actually) only makes sense if we understand 'Israel' and 'Jews' to actually refer to the physical Israel and the Jews living there or abroad. Spiritualising the term 'Israel' and basically redefining as referring to the whole church causes nonsensical readings in both NT and TNK/OT. But has happened since at least the 4th century AD in the history of the Church - only in the last 100 years or so do we see a change in that perspective.

Of course I'm aware there are multiple ways of 'reading'/interpreting Romans 11, but for me the most natural one is that Gentile believers are grafted into the tree of God's people - but Israel as a nation/people still do exist (Paul says 'theirs are the covenants' ..) - they're temporarily blinded as Paul says; but eventually all of Israel will come to the truth about their Messiah. Israel is not some kind of failed and abandoned experiment by God. The TNK/OT successively speaks of a remnant .. God's plan continues. The name of Yeshua as God's Messiah is spread online throughout Israel these days - that's a massive development.

Modern and orthodox Judaism now is quite different from Judaism as it existed in the days of Yeshua on earth. Talmud and many, many traditions have emerged later. I have learned a lot from looking at the Bible and my faith from a Jewish perspective - basically trying to understand the Gospel, Yeshua's words and Paul through the lens of those 1st century Jewish believers. At the same time Judaism in the 21st century reminds me also of the Roman Catholic or Orthodox churches - lots of traditions where the tradition itself seems to have become a purpose in itself.

Man-made tradition can be useful (~ best practices solidified in time) but should not be a law in itself.

My journey of discovery is still ongoing - yet my faith/leaning on God is not dependent on knowing it all with a precision of three decimals digits.

Be blessed !
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Embryo Jewelry? Catholics React to Frozen Children Encased in Necklaces and Rings

I know of a professor who's SIL had her brother's ashes in a necklace, IIRC.

It's not my personal preference. Maybe it helped her grieve?
Well,

I'm willing to roll with it, it just seems odd.

Sort of like when (a thousand years ago) Billy Bob Thornton and Angelia Jolie had small vials of each other blood on necklaces.

Romantic? Well, I can see it.

But odd?

Definitely.

(Upon reflection - that whole marriage was a little off)
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