Happy Thanksgiving! God bless you!

Andrewn said:

A hellish experience of some sort likely exists. The important question is whether it is endless / everlasting as commonly taught.

It is unlikely that a just God would punish limited people with unlimited torture.

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I hope you're right. That does seem more just to me.

rambot said:

Did your post MEAN anything to what I wrote? Were you trying to address it? I'm not sure if you're trying to obfuscate your point so I'll just play along.

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Sorry.

I was thinking of Kent Hovind's video as to where God came from.

Nevermind.

ChubbyCherub said:

Thank you, this makes sense.

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You're welcome, and I would appreciate if you continue to pray for/with me.

ChubbyCherub said:

My dad has never read the bible and goes off his understanding of what he's been told and his relationship with Jesus, as he puts it.

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A lot of the most respectable saints were illiterate, in fact it's very likely that Peter was illiterate and he very likely had strong influence over several books of the NT in Mark, and 1 and 2 Peter.

ChubbyCherub said:

I guess I always thought there was a danger in relying on others to read the bible to you, interpret it for you etc but he doesn't read above a third grade level (if that) so he tries his best.

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There can be a danger in that, but there's also a danger in someone without sufficient background reading things into the Bible that are contrary to what the original authors intended. God gives us teachers, and not everyone needs to be self-taught. It's good to verify if you have the time and academic acumen, but we all put faith in the leaders God puts in our paths in some way.

ChubbyCherub said:

People seem to read the same passages and still come to different conclusions. It's a minefield, really!

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Yeah, though there's usually more harmony than is often realized since most of the debates are over how to speak of mysteries rather than substantive differences that alter how we live as Christians. That is, of course, not counting people who twist verses to suit their agenda/theological position without concern for what is in the text. With sufficient negotiation, i've found that there are ways to foster agreements across many theological lines.

ChubbyCherub said:

I'm prone to research, overthinking, examination, analysis, questions, thinking, shifting in thinking, reassessing, reconfirming etc. So, I see both views. I appreciate your help here!

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I am a thought-tinkerer as well, which gets me into trouble from time to time. As a suggestion, to facilitate your research on Biblical topics there are a couple of books i'd recommend. First and foremost is Exegetical Fallacies by D.A. Carson. If you want more suggestions, let me know. That one should be a good starting point for thinking about Biblical interpretation and the various traps that we can fall into when we read and interpret the Bible.

Bobthebomb said:

Looks like I am lost.
I have been searching for a while subconsciously, which is how I found my way here.
Tonight was too much, I asked God and Jesus into my life.

Nothing. I feel more alone than ever.

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If you are lost, then brighten up, because you only have one thing to worry about.


Why brighten up?
A lost sheep is never abandoned by the shepherd.


How do we know that no lost sheep is ever abandoned?
Luke 15:3-5
3 And so He told them this parable, saying, 4 “What man among you, if he has a hundred sheep and has lost one of them, does not leave the other ninety-nine in the [a]open pasture and go after the one that is lost, until he finds it? 5 And when he has found it, he puts it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
Please read Ezekiel 34:6-16, and capture that beautiful word picture.

So, if you are a lost sheep, and you want to be found, don't bleat too loudly. Wolves have acute hearing.
Just do what sheep do... beside bleat loudly for their shepherd.
Yes, praying is important, but also, remember this...
John 10:27
Please read Jesus' beautiful illustration at John 10:2-30.

If you are one of Jesus sheep, you know his voice, so all you need to do, is listen out for it, and when you hear it, follow the sound.
When he calls, and you listen, and follow, then he will put you on his shoulders and carry you. Then lead you into the sheep pen.

So, three things to remember...

1. Don't be downhearted or panic.
2. Remember the shepherd is searching for you.
3. Pray silently, and listen for the call of the shepherd.

How does Jesus call though? "Sheep... Sheep... Where are you?"?
In the same way God searched for the lost sheep of Israel. Please read Matthew 10:5, 6
Compare Matthew 28:19, 20 and Romans 10:13-15

Aryeh Jay said:

Just because a illegitimate court appointed by socialists with an anti American bias refuses to hear the case dosen't make it frivolous.

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You might want to do a little homework before making statements like this one.

Say it aint so said:

The Trump admin doesn't even bother to hide their blatant intent of a coverup.

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You expect consistency?

Hey, 1 & 2 Peter with Kretzmann's commentary with added ESV tooltips, notes, and cross-references has been added to Luco!



Blessings!

It's not our fault that Pellew is too lazy to go out and get another job. If he can't get one that overpays him like the last, maybe he should get a second job as well. Happy Thanksgiving, Pellew. Get off your lazy butt and take another job--you're making MAGA look bad.

ChubbyCherub said:

Thank you. The little known fact was certainly not known by me so I appreciate you for telling me!

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Anglican here, we have a different format for confession to a Priest than Catholics, and we have the option of confession to any church member. We also have a similar prayer to the one concretecamper posted above, before ever service with Holy Communion.

This post is not intended to tell anyone how to confess correctly, or that their different way is wrong.

Belk said:

Like "Alligator Alcatraz"?

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Sure. Or some maximum security prison in El Salvador.

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bbbbbbb said:

Everybody who went outside to walk on the filthy streets and roads washed their feet when they returned home. If there were slaves or servants the job was done by the lowest servant. It was a job that everyone wanted to avoid if at all possible.

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He that is the greatest among you is the servant of all. What Jesus did by washing the feet of the disciples was demonstrating this very thing but ignorant people have turned into a repetitive ritual that is meaningless.

God bless you and Happy Thanksgiving!

ChubbyCherub said:

You've explained it well here but still..................I have to pray about it. It's a hard thing to understand

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Jesus said , “there is one who condemns you even Moses in who you trust” Moses brought the Ten Commandments to give to Israel. These Ten Commandments were written and engraved on stone and are the ministry of death. They kill everyone under them, there is no life in the Ten Commandments. These law keepers here are dead, the law Moses brought down from the mountain has condemned them to death. Jesus said, “search the scriptures for in them you think you have everlasting life but these are those which testify of me.” The Ten Commandments do not offer everlasting life but rather everlasting death. There is a new and living way through Jesus Christ that law keepers don’t know. Ten Commandment keepers are yet in the old covenant, deny the work of Christ, are condemned by Moses and have no life in them. Do a Bible study with key words like, mercy, righteousness, faith, justification and life with respect to the Ten Commandments and see that the Ten Commandments did not offer any of these things. Since the Ten Commandments cannot be altered in any way you cannot add these things to them. Sin is conquered by GODS love in us by HIS spirit. If we are empowered with this love then we can overcome sin. No one has ever overcome sin by keeping the Ten Commandments. John 1:17 grace and truth did not come by the Ten Commandments but through Jesus Christ.

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rambot said:

Really hey?
Well, it's probably silly to think they don't exist anywhere. I'm sure in 30 years there may still be a few Trump defenders too.

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I’ve been pretty disappointed with the lack of derision directed at jim. I kind of get not wanting to make Hillary collateral damage, but still… Given the attitudes levied towards other creeps, Bubba should have been run out of town on a rail. But he’s mostly just been allowed to fade into the background like a bunch of creepy famous musicians have.

"Undeniably, those who willfully shut out God from their hearts and try to dodge religious questions are not following the dictates of their consciences, and hence are not free of blame; yet believers themselves frequently bear some responsibility for this situation. For, taken as a whole, atheism is not a spontaneous development but stems from a variety of causes, including a critical reaction against religious beliefs, and in some places against the Christian religion in particular. Hence believers can have more than a little to do with the birth of atheism. To the extent that they neglect their own training in the faith, or teach erroneous doctrine, or are deficient in their religious, moral or social life, they must be said to conceal rather than reveal the authentic face of God and religion." #19

another_lost_guy said:

You may have read this thread title and thought "of course atheism exists, my coworker is an atheist" or something like that.

No, your coworker just calls himself an atheist, but in reality he just worships lower gods than Christ (such as video games, anime, porn, money, etc

Here is the scripture I see as backing this up:

“Their end is destruction, their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things.” - Philippians 3:19

In my opinion, as someone who is neither a priest or a theologian, this shows that all atheists worship their own god(s), which dismantles many pretentious atheist arguments such as "I just worship one less god than you do" and "religion is inherited", etc;

Scripture does not really define what atheism is aside from it being foolish so I wanted to make this thread to ask if we as Christians should even believe in such a thing as atheism

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Atheism is the non belief of any gods.

• The term "atheist" isn't used in the Bible, but the concept of practical atheism is described as "the fool says in his heart, 'There is no God'" (Psalm 14:1).

God's law is written on everyone's heart ... has to be .... because all are judged according to the law .... judgement is entirely up to Jesus and we are not privy to His judgements. The reality is we don't know who will or will not be in heaven. What I do know is that God knows everything and I trust His judgement completely.

The apostle Paul warns the Philippians in Philippians 3:18-19 about false Christians who are "enemies of the cross of Christ" because they live "earthly things" and "set their mind on earthly things". He describes these individuals with sadness, saying he tells them about this "even weeping". Their ultimate fate, Paul states, is "destruction".

biblelesson said:

Sometimes this is not possibly, however, God recognizes the abuse, and when the wife humbles herself to God and ask for help, God removes that man - sometimes to the detriment of the man to break the authority - God takes the man from this life.

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God took mine to people who could help him with his mental health, and the pair of us to a better church. Just saying....I entirely agree, no one has to remain unsafe.