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partinobodycular · 2025-12-09T23:54:09-0600

AV1611VET said:
Please don't make the same mistake they made.

Actually I'm just repeating what you already said.

AV1611VET said:
Had God not made Adam the federal head of the entire human race, then Jesus would have to come back and die on the Cross separately for each and every human being that was ever born, alive today, or will be alive tomorrow.

But by making the "first Adam" the federal head of the human race, He made the "last Adam" a one-time sacrifice for sins.

The only difference is that I'm suggesting that they're both allegorical. That Adam is representative of all of humanity, and likewise so is Christ.

Innsmuthbride · 2025-12-09T23:35:46-0600

Perry Mason, all seasons.

.Mikha'el. · 2025-12-09T23:12:48-0600

GodDoesListen55 said:
I wish this time of year was a little easier, but it never is...

No, and it's far more trouble and stress than any one day is worth.

com7fy8 · 2025-12-09T22:55:35-0600

good to evaluate . . .

"Test all things; hold fast what is good." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

"swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath" (in James 1:19)

"He who answers a matter before he hears it,
. It is folly and shame to him." (Proverbs 18:13)

Belk · 2025-12-09T22:50:22-0600

BPPLEE said:
Some will be on government assistance as @iluvatar5150 and I were discussing. He thinks more people on government assistance creates jobs and that we need them to come here and have lots of children

Every economic assessment of our situation I have seen agrees with him. More workers equals more GDP and greater revenue. That does not change that the underlying assumption that people will come and live off free handouts is biased and disproven by real world data. The vast majority that come here work hard to achieve heir dreams. That is the American dream, is it not?

com7fy8 · 2025-12-09T22:49:30-0600

Ave Maria said:
if you do, how do you go about it?

There are people who provide an occasion in their churches, where their youths can stay and have clean fun and fellowship.

Also, I know a pastor who would go out, right in the middle of the activities, with his children, in order to reach people for Jesus and contact ones he already was relating with. And his children dressed in more innocent things.

I might just have some candy ready where I was staying, and later donate it lolololololol And I have gone out by myself and mixed socially, sometimes meeting other Christians and enjoying being with one another.

Ave Maria said:
Anyway, I'm Catholic and technically Halloween is All Hallows Eve for us which is the same thing as the Eve of All Saints' Day.

I would say no day belongs to Satan. With God, we can use every day howsoever God pleases. So, use it for God.

So - - your son has gone from being a Seal, to Superman, to Jesus. This could be significant > starting as a soldier who can be so specialized for combat missions, then becoming Superman who can do more personal relating with people while stopping some evil and helping them. And Jesus is more obviously so powerful against evil, but also tender and compassionate and forgiving for family sharing and caring. So, he is possibly growing and developing in love as more of his interest. And, of course, you with God can discover how you develop in how you use any holiday; yes, and God uses days and any thing for His good purposes.

Nithavela · 2025-12-09T22:49:14-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Somebody asked Grok to grade the paper.

View attachment 374269

Not -3? How generous.

d taylor · 2025-12-09T22:48:08-0600

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Any person any age can receive God's free gift of Eternal Life and become a born again child of God.

The big problem is most are not being correctly taught or told how to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life.

But if a child (or any person ) is correctly taught how to receive God's free gift of Eternal Life. By belief in Jesus for Eternal Life, they receive Eternal Life, a pernamnet gift from God, at the very moment of their belief in Jesus for Eternal Life.

So it is not the age that is the problem, but the teaching.

I would say a child who can simply believe in promises. Has a better chance in believing in Jesus for Eternal Life, than many young aged people and adults. Because an older person can get hung up in the legalist garbage of baptism, repentance of sin, confessing, obedience to the Law (ten commandments, etc..), making Jesus Lord of their life. bearing fruit, etc.......

FaithT · 2025-12-09T22:46:10-0600

I only send cards to my daughter and her husband, my grandkids and father in law.

Multifavs · 2025-12-09T22:40:59-0600

My Christmas animation is over halfway done now. I finished the part where the characters decorate the tree and now I'm on the part where they go outside before playing in the snow.

It's amazing how much time it takes to animate some things. Kirby doesn't take too long since he's easy to draw, but the other characters can take a lot more time. It took me all day just to draw Magolor and Susie walking outside (and Magolor was already done except one of his hands needed to be redrawn). Today I spent all my time drawing Taranza's next animation. Drawing him getting tangled in Christmas lights will be fun...

(Of course, I'm not actually spending the entire day on this, just the time when I normally use the computer.)

I got a lot of chapter 13 of my story done, but I still have to figure out what happens in the rest of it.

d taylor · 2025-12-09T22:37:13-0600

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The only one that gives eternal life to people. Which is to believe in Jesus for Eternal Life, God's free gift.

lucypevensie · 2025-12-09T22:20:58-0600

Keep some essential foods frozen.

FROZN

Teofrastus · 2025-12-09T22:11:05-0600

Unqualified said:
I’m sorry

this seems over educated jargon, not for the common people whom the gospel was intended for. But since Christ has such depth it is definitely food for you. But where your faith lies I don’t know. It’s not clear if the ‘trickster’ is a respectful term. It might be a colloquial term that suits philosophers fancy.. it could be derogatory.

i accepted what for a long time I was to afraid to admit. I had to forsake my sin and admit Jesus made sense and that there was going to be blessing for following. But until I forsook my sin it was hard to bear. How is the truth’ a trickster?!

The trickster is among the most extensively studied figures in the comparative history of religion. He represents a divine mediator between heaven and earth, whose character bears the imprint of both realms. Consequently, the trickster embodies both animal and divine qualities, combining deception with nobility, good with evil—as exemplified by Coyote in Amerindian mythology. In early Christianity, the first theory of atonement embraced by the Church Fathers held that Christ tricked the devil.

It is a well‑known fact that to be truly evil, one must also be good. The most successful criminals are those who charm. Accordingly, to be truly good, one must also be evil. In myth, the trickster made enormous contributions to humanity through his cunning and his misdeeds.

If the “common people” do not engage with theology, they allow it to drift on its own, which may have detrimental consequences in the long run. Modern theologians have largely rejected the heavenly realm and angelic beings, and this is in part because ordinary people have not concerned themselves with their work.

ARBITER01 · 2025-12-09T22:10:48-0600

Mark Quayle said:
Fair enough. All of our notions should be updated.

Notice, though, that here you speak of works, which the conversation you spoke against, brought up as something we were predestined to. Might those be the same as the "greater works" you describe as the weightier matters according to Jesus?

Is it my works, or is it the works that The Father is able to do through me because of my relationship with GOD and His holiness?

We are to be partakers of His holiness, and that only comes from a continual closeness with GOD, not from the pages of our bible. A lot of people on this site have their priorities mixed up.

samaus123456789 · 2025-12-09T21:54:48-0600

Richard T said:
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I do use ai mainly as a reference tool though. On your topic I have to think more about what this means in relation to the mind of Christ. But the idea we know in part we prophecy in part, the call of us to seek and ask for wisdom, to meditate day and night on the word suggests the depper things of God are available if we make more effort.

There are books that are outside the protestant canon that are inspired only for the wise that seek them out. They are apocrypha which means hidden from the wise of the world.

Jesus talking to the Sadducees who asked about resurrection.

Mathew 22 29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

God talking to the fallen angels pre flood in 1 Enoch that left heaven, came down to earth, and married women

1 Enoch 15
But you originally existed as spirits, living forever,
and not dying for all the generations of eternity;
7 therefore I did not make women among you.’
The spirits of heaven, in heaven is their dwelling;

He calls 1 Enoch scripture, and Jude says "Enoch 7th from Adam" so Jude believed what he was quoting was written before Noahs flood, and not pseudepigrapha first written 300 BC, and backdated. Jude, and 1 Enoch
The Sadducees stuff up a story from Tobit about the woman being married then demons killing her 7 husbands each night before the marriage too. They forgot to add she married successfully the 8th time. So Jesus is calling Tobit scripture too. That was written in the 700s, and 600s BC, 1 Enoch was written 4400-4000 BC after creation 5500 BC but before Noahs flood 3300 BC. There are a lot of other texts inspired apocrypha that are not pseudepigrapha for the wise only too. My summary list of the most important ones are 1 Enoch, Life of Adam, and Eve, Assumption of Moses, 1/2 Maccabees. For the NT Gospel of Nicodemus, History of Joseph the Carpenter, Proto James. All on audiobook on youtube or annas archive and internet archive are two free e book websites.

camille70 · 2025-12-09T21:53:22-0600

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Dan Perez · 2025-12-09T21:44:20-0600

Dave... said:
"The Meaning of Foreknew in Romans 8:29"

You may ask why this is in the dispensationalism forum. It's because it has everything to do with the transition from the old Testament to the New Testament.

I copied this out of a book that I once owned called "The Five Points of Calvinism, Defined, Defended and documented" about twenty years ago. You'll still find it floating around the internet on some forums. I wanted to confront that interpretation that I once defended.

Amazon.com

To my surprise, I found it, but not by me, rather, it was on monergism.com. Perhaps they copied my copy, as it still has some mistakes pointed out in the spell checker, mostly with spacing that I just now fixed.

You should read it, as some of the points made in that article I'll be discussing and using for proof of my position. You can read it here if you like.

The Meaning of "FOREKNEW" in Romans 8:29 | Monergism
This is from the Appendix of the book "The Five Points of Calvinism: Defined, Defended, Documented" by David N. Steele and Curtis C. Thomas. THE MEANING OF
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Romans 8:29-30 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

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QUOTE from the book:
God has always possessed perfect knowledge of all creatures and of all events. There has never been a time when anything past, present, or future was not fully known to Him.* But it is not His knowledge of future events (of what people would do, etc.) which is referred to in Romans 8:29,30, for Paul clearly states that those whom He foreknew He predestined, He called, He justified, etc. Since all men are not predestined, called, and justified, it follows that all men were not foreknown by God in the sense spoken of in verse 29.

It is for this reason that the Arminians are forced to add some qualifying notion. They read into the passage some idea not contained in the language itself such as those whom He foreknew would believe etc., He predestined, called and justified. But according to the Biblical usage of the words “know,” “knew,” and “foreknew” there is not the least need to make such an addition, and since it is unnecessary, it is improper. When the Bible speaks of God knowing particular individuals, it often means that He has special regard for them, that they are the objects of His affection and concern. For example in Amos 3:2, God, speaking to Israel says, “You only have I known of all the families of the earth; therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.” The Lord knows about all the families of the earth, but He knew Israel in a special way.* They were His chosen people whom He had set His heart upon. See Deuteronomy 7:7,8; 10:15. Because Israel was His in a special sense He chastised them, cf. Hebrews 12:5,6.*God, speaking to Jeremiah, said, “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you,” (Jeremiah 1:5). The meaning here is not that God knew about Jeremiah but that He had a special regard for the prophet before He formed him in his mother’s womb. Jesus also used the word “knew” in the sense of personal, intimate awareness. “On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers’ “ (Matt. 7:22,23). Our Lord cannot be understood here as saying, I knew nothing about you, for it is quite evident that He knew all too much about them – their evil character and evil works; hence, His meaning must be, I never knew you intimately nor personally, I never regarded you as the objects of my favor or love. Paul uses the word in the same way in I Corinthians 8:3, “But if one loves God, one is known by him,” and also II Timothy 2:19, “the Lord knows those who are His.” The Lord knows about all men but He only knows those “who love Him, who are called according to His purpose” (Rom 8:28) – those who are His! ...END QUOTE

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I would add that Calvinism is also adding a qualifying notion. That being, Whom He foreknew [from the foundations of the world]. That simply is assumed into the text. If that was what was meant, it would be easy to just say it, as Peter did in 1 Peter 1:20

1 Peter 1:2 He indeed was foreordained [foreknew] before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you (Also see 1 Peter 1:2)

(ESV) "He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you"

The same Greek word for "foreordained" in 1 Peter 1:20 and "foreknew" in Romans 8:29. Also see John 17:24.

John 17:24 Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.

So foreknown [from the foundations of the world] "Foundations of the world" is assumed by the Calvinist interpretation. It sounds reasonable, right? There is predestination right after that.

Let me offer some context that Calvinism doesn't use because their understanding of Scripture limits that context. In Romans 8:28-29, Paul is speaking of true OT believers. That's the flow of the whole book in context, and the more immediate context is the same. They were foreknown as believers already, and were given to the Son by the Father, so that He would not lose one of them, thus predestined to be what? Conformed to the the image of His Son. These were already appointed to eternal life as true OT believers, and were thus foreknown by God, but would need to make the transition to the Gospel message as believers. These He also called (with the Gospel), His Sheep will hear His voice. Those He called, He also justified [in Christ, Pentecost and beyond] also see Romans 3:25. And those He justified, He glorified.

It's actually fits perfectly. If you think that sounds wrong, consider that Paul tells us who is foreknown in Romans 11:2.

Romans 11:1-5 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, "Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life"? But what does the divine response say to him? "I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal." Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

It's Israel. That's the same point that the five points of Calvinism was making, they just didn't examine that Scripture with the entire context, since most Calvinists believe that there is no transition from the Old Testament to the New Testament. That there is no difference in the way God deals with people from one to the other. That OT believers were saved and already had all the benefits of being in Christ. I disagree with that. Listen to the argument made in that article, it actually supports what I'm saying.

This Gospel that these Jews were hearing was completely different from what they expected and understood. Paul is explaining the Law verses grace. How physical Israel is different from Spiritual Israel. How God chastising the Jews and including the Gentiles was part of His eternal plan. How those Jews who God had chastised could still be a part of that plan of salvation. It's a covenant by faith, not of the Law. Peter makes the same kind of Argument to similar minded Jews of that time who were also ignorant as to what was happening in Acts1-2.

Acts 2:22-23 "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know-- Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death;

36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."

To use the same argument as the article, I think its not part of the Text, and therefore not necessary to add [from the foundations of the world] to the meaning of the word foreknew. I understand why that idea was assumed into the term foreknew from the Calvinist framework, but I believe that framework lacks the proper context. As the writer points out, God is speaking of a particular people who He foreloved. That's Israel. And they, the true believers, spiritual Israel, were predestined to take the next step in that transition from the Old Testament to the New Testament and come to faith in Jesus Christ, thus placing them in Christ, [after Pentecost] and as a result, being justified in Him and being conformed to His image.

Any thoughts?

And I am. not a TULIP FAN and Acts 2:36 is speaking. about Israel. and are KEEIPING the Law !!

AS far. to THE word FORENEW //. PROGINOSKO it is a verb in. the AOPRIST TENSE ,in. the. INDICATIVE MOOD

AND means you better BELIEVE IT , in. the SINGULAR. !!

dan p

timothyu · 2025-12-09T21:44:13-0600

If there is a way around loving all as self, people will find it.

Lost4words · 2025-12-09T21:16:38-0600

Jan001 said:
Who do you think has the authority to determine the correct interpretation?

The Church. That is the true church of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Richard T · 2025-12-09T21:08:53-0600

I took a concealed carry course in Florida. They were quire clear, if your not in a life threatening situation you legally should not fire a gun.

Richard T · 2025-12-09T21:00:36-0600

Michie said:
The Rev. Franklin Graham was recently unable to attend a Christian revival event in India due to a visa issue, with some alleging foul play.

Reports circulated last week stating that the 73-year-old Graham was prevented from speaking at an event in Nagaland late last month to commemorate the anniversary of a crusade his father, the late Rev. Billy Graham, conducted in the region 53 years earlier. The Times of India reported that Graham had been denied a visa, causing one local leader to send letters to federal officials voicing displeasure with the matter.

A spokesperson for the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association clarified the situation in a statement sent to The Christian Post on Tuesday.

"The visas for Rev. Franklin Graham and our team were approved by the Government of India, Ministry of Home Affairs, Foreigners Division; however, it was after the necessary departure date for Mr. Graham to arrive in time for Nagaland United: A Gathering of Faith, Hope and Revival and for the Hornbill Festival," read the statement.

Continued below.

Did India deny a visa to Franklin Graham ahead of a crusade? Here's what we know

The Rev Franklin Graham was recently unable to attend a Christian revival event in India due to a visa issue, with some alleging foul play

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Seems strange cause Americans can get an electronic visa. I read a tourist visa takes 4 days. Likely Graham applied for a different type of visa? My advice for anyone traveling to minister is to really take a look at the destination and keep things as simple as possible. Unless your going to stay longer generally a tourist visa is fine. Your not working if you dont take money from the place your going. Of course Graham is high profile plus he is bringing a team. I can say too in my experience that groups are scrutinized more by immigration authorities. There is nothing like going to a country and not being allowed to enter. The usa even rejects some valid visa holders.

chevyontheriver · 2025-12-09T20:54:20-0600

Michie said:
McClarey

Reality always wins in the end.

Thought for the Day – The American Catholic

the-american-catholic.com

Single party rule does have it's consequences. Minnesota actually had good government way back when.

Yusuphhai · 2025-12-09T20:37:38-0600

1Cor. 12:28 And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues.

Apostles and prophets form a high council. This is the consensus of all broad Christianity that no doctrine can conflict with the council of apostles and prophets. In fact, many Messianic may take part in Protestant or Catholic fellowship gatherings because they cannot find a more suitable meeting place. You can tell the Baptist organization about your desire to join Messianic Judaism, and perhaps stay in the Baptist Church while maintaining Messianic Jewish beliefs. The John Wesley system is relatively tolerant towards Jews. You can also contact Messianic Jewish organizations at the same time to hear their opinions.

Enjoy the trip.

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