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Yeshua HaDerekh · 2025-09-18T01:20:09-0500

Studyman said:
I was also raised under this religious tradition, but when a man studies the event for himself, it just doesn't add up. Although it is a necessary doctrine it seems, to justify the rejection of God's Sabbath, and the adoption of the Catholic sabbath, as there is no prophesy, no declaration, absolutely no teaching any where in the Bible, that lends itself to the change.

The Messiah was placed in the heart of the earth, just before Sundown on Passover Day, the 14th of Nissan. He Himself said HE would be in the heart of the earth for 3 days and 3 nights. This would mean that HE would raise from the dead just before Sundown 3 days and 3 nights later. Or certainly that there is nothing in Scriptures which say this would or did not happen.

Since we know for sure that after sundown on the weekly Sabbath, Saturday, Mary went to the Grave, and in all eye witness accounts, He was already risen.

So in your understanding, from the end of the 14th Day of Nisan, to the 16th day of Nisan, is 3 days and 3 nights. The Catholic tradition is that He was placed in the grave on the 14th day of Nisan, which was a Friday, and Jesus rose after sundown on Saturday night, but before sunrise on Sunday, the 1st day of the week. I'm not sure how that makes 3 days and 3 nights. I have been told by the promoters of this philosophy that Jesus didn't mean 3 whole days, or 3 whole nights, implying that Jonah wasn't really in the Whales belly for 3 whole days and 3 whole nights. I'm not sure why a person would even contemplate such things, unless of course, they need to in order to justify a tradition.

Since I have no worldly religious tradition to defend or preserve, it's much easier for me to understand the time line based on what is actually written when all of the Scriptures are considered. Jesus was killed and placed in the grave just before sundown at the end of Passover Day, the 14th Day of Nisan, just before the Holy Sabbath, the First Day of Unleavened Bread. This was a Wednesday evening in that year. There are always 2 Sabbaths on the week of Passover, according to the Law and Prophets. Jesus remained in the grave Wednesday night, Thursday night, and Friday Night, exactly 3 nights just as Jesus said. And He remained in the grave Thursday, Friday and Saturday, raising from the dead just before Sundown on Saturday night, exactly 3 days just as Jesus said. When Mary got to the Grave, early Sunday Morning, while it was yet dark, HE had already risen.

There is nothing in Scriptures that contradicts this. And clearly the God and Father of the Lord's Christ knew this when HE sanctified and Set Apart the 7th Days of the Week, as Holy to Him, and Holy to us. Clearly God knew the days His Son would raise from the Dead when HE created His 10 commandments, including, but not limited to "Keeping the 7th Day Holy".

The implication of Constantine and the RCC, and adopted by this world's religious system, that God sanctified and set apart the wrong Day of the Week, as the "Lord's Day" is a bridge to far for me. And why would I adopt this philosophy, if not to preserve man-made traditions?

Nevertheless, these discussions are good to have among men who are "Seeking God's Righteousness" as my Savior and Lord, the Christ of the Bible instructs.

The Sabbath is the 7th day (that has never changed). The 1st day of the week is the day Yeshua resurrected from the dead. I HAVE studied all of this for MANY years. You are stuck on the 3 days and 3 nights quote. You seem to forget Yeshua also said "in 3 days" and he would rise "on the 3rd day". 3 days and 3 nights is from the story of Yonah. He was comparing it to that story. You also seem to forget the eyewitnesses on the road to Emmaus speaking to Yeshua said it was now the 3rd day since these events occurred. It PLAINLY says it was the 1st day of the week. So counting back, he would have died on the 6th day, resting in the tomb on Shabbat, rising after sunset (which was the 1st day of the week). You rightly say Yeshua was killed on the 14th. We know that day was the 6th day of the week. So Wednesday is an impossibility. Thursday is possible ONLY if you use exclusive counting...which the Scriptures never do. Also, while it was still dark when Mary arrived would have been the 1st day of the week. After sunset on the sabbath is the 1st day of the week. So day 6 was the 1st day, day 7 (Shabbat) was the 2nd day and the 1st day of the week was day 3...he rose ON THE 3RD DAY just as He said. Yeshua kept Shabbat while he rested in the tomb. So yes, there ARE many scriptures that contradict your scenario...

dlamberth · 2025-09-18T01:19:37-0500

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Riley, I'm doing this in the nicest way possible...

But... you can use Google for these questions. It exists for a reason.

The question caused me to think about something I've never considered with water. Though I've heard something along the same lines with the air we breath. I'm glad the question was posted.

Seraphim . · 2025-09-18T01:15:14-0500

rusmeister said:
If you don’t mind my asking, did you become Orthodox in 2023?

2016 - catechumen
2017 - baptized

Still a very lowly, unprofitable sinner in great ignorance of the truthes of God

Oompa Loompa · 2025-09-18T01:02:05-0500

(Nerdy voice) Well technically, he never actually called Republicans 'Nazis,' he only compared them to Nazis on more than one occasion. So he is obviously telling the truth.

Just getting that out there because I already know where this thread is going. So I thought I would save everyone the time.

Valletta · 2025-09-18T00:52:07-0500

essentialsaltes said:
Fox News host Brian Kilmeade apologized Sunday for suggesting “involuntary lethal injections” to remove mentally ill homeless people from streets.

His remarks during Wednesday’s show sparked outrage online, with critics comparing them to ██ ████'s euthanasia programs.

The topic led “Fox & Friends” co-host Laurence Jones to say that billions of dollars have been spent on programs to care for the homeless and mentally ill but many of those afflicted resist help.

“A lot of them don’t want to take the programs,” Jones said. “A lot of them don’t want to get the help that is necessary. You can’t give them the choice. Either you take the resources that we’re going to give you, or you decide that you’ve got to be locked up in jail.”

Kilmeade added: “Or involuntary lethal injection or something — just kill ‘em.”

Not something to joke about. Boot him.

linux.poet · 2025-09-18T00:30:46-0500

Gracious Heavenly Father and Lord Jesus,
I pray for healing for wounds these false friends may have inflicted. Help Riley to see that You are still with him and that he is never alone. Please show him the mistakes that allowed him to fall into fellowship with bad company, and help him to avoid the same mistakes in the future. Finally, please help Riley to be surrounded by better friends who support him physically, emotionally, and in his relationship to You.
In Christ’s Name,
Amen

Learning always · 2025-09-18T00:24:42-0500

Malt-o-meals are LIGHT tidbits

LOAY

Palmfever · 2025-09-18T00:00:57-0500

rambot said:
It seems like there haven't been many pointed discussions about the economy down in the US right now.
Seems that the DOW continues to improve.
Unemployment is at BEST, underwhelming.
The inflation on foods is becoming quite untenable for many.
Farming, as an American industry is on the brink of complete disaster (if we are to believe American farmers)

But I don't live there.

What are you passionate about here? What are the really GREAT things you see happenning? What are the troubling things?

I'm curious.

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FaithT · 2025-09-17T23:51:24-0500

Michie said:
Forgot to mention my bil and aunt. Bil had a cancerous kidney removed and we are praying for no return of cancer. Also my aunt is scheduled for surgery in Nashville this upcoming week. She has an aneurysm in her aorta. Very dangerous so we’d all appreciate prayers if it crosses your mind. It’s been a year of a lot of health issues on both sides of the family.

I‘m so sorry for all your family’s health issues. I’ll pray for them.

PloverWing · 2025-09-17T23:45:33-0500

How do you know it is God's voice talking to you about climate change and the state of the banks?

Michie · 2025-09-17T23:34:54-0500

A reality star has revealed that he is no longer gay and credits God for his shift in sexuality.

Davis Mallory starred on MTV shows The Real World: Denver from 2006 to 2007 before doing three seasons of The Challenge on the same network.

The former covered the 42-year-old reality star's journey in trying to be comfortable with his homosexuality after growing up in conservative Christianity and his family taking issue with it.

However, now the singer/songwriter has revealed in an Instagram video post on Monday that he no longer identifies as gay as he said: 'God really pulled [him] out of that lifestyle a year ago.'

In the video he took to the stage at Arise House of Prayer and Worship in Hawaii and recalled his upbringing.

Davis said: 'I lived the gay lifestyle for about 20 years. I was on a television show, The Real World, and I came out on the show as a gay Christian, but God really pulled me out of that lifestyle a year ago.'

Continued below.

The Challenge's Davis Mallory says he's no longer gay

Davis Mallory starred on MTV shows The Real World: Denver from 2006 to 2007 before doing three seasons of The Challenge on the same network.

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Servus · 2025-09-17T23:24:05-0500

Dearborn minister speaks out after Muslim mayor publicly berates him: 'Jesus said love your enemies'

iarwain · 2025-09-17T23:17:31-0500

Michie said:
She has a son that claims to be a woman. So I assume that is where the disagreement was.

As a Christian, Charlie, like many of us cannot condone the LGBTQ lifestyle or agenda. But we are all sinners. I saw a video today of a student talking with Charlie, who said he was a gay conservative and wondered what the conservative side had to offer him. Charlie welcomed him, gave him a hat, and told him honestly that as a Christian he couldn't condone a gay lifestyle, but that there were other aspects of conservatism that were beneficial to him. He also said that he shouldn't start out identifying himself by his sexual orientation, because that doesn't define who he is. He isn't a "gay" American, he is an American, for instance.

The left sees that as hatred, but I certainly don't see it that way. We are all sinners and all have our individual struggles. We don't want to take rights away from LGBTQ people, we just don't want children being taught they can choose their own gender, or that they should mutilate their God given bodies with sex change surgery and puberty blockers. When they are adults, they can do whatever they want. Of course for the identity politics group, that means war.

d taylor · 2025-09-17T23:07:28-0500

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They were filled with the Holy Spirit because they had believed in Jesus for Eternal Life and had not departed or participated in His crucifixion.

Whereas can be seen in Acts 2 the believers who had departed or participated in Jesus' crucifixion. Had not received the gift of The Holy Spirit. God required of these believers to receive The Holy Spirit .

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Men and brethren, what shall we do?”
Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

bbbbbbb · 2025-09-17T23:01:31-0500

the rooster crows.

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When the rooster does not crow . . .

GodDoesListen55 · 2025-09-17T23:00:13-0500

<- New Years Eve.

bbbbbbb · 2025-09-17T22:58:46-0500

stove pipe

HARK! · 2025-09-17T22:58:25-0500

Delvianna said:
While I appreciate you took the time to reply, you're pretty hostile about it, so I'm just going to choose not to respond as I don't feel like this conversation is anywhere close to being edifying. Hope you have a blessed day.

I'm sorry that you feel that my imparting my understanding to you is, hostile, and not edifying; but please be careful not to complain about my trying to help you.

The High Priest makes the sin sacrifice on Yom Kippur, Compare Judgement day.

That is right after Yom Teruah, (Feast of Trumpets) Compare the final trump.

It is also right before Sukot (The feast of tents.} Compare the Chuppah that is used in the wedding ceremony.

Compare (יחנו) which means to camp. Notice that the root of this word is (חנ) It is often translated as "grace;" but a more accurate translation would be "beauty." In Ancient Hebrew the otiot depict a fence and a seed. Yah separates his sons from what is outside his fence. Yah protects his sons.

While we're at it let's look at Abba.

Aleph is the first letter of the Hebrew Alephbeyt. I don't think that this happened randomly. In Ancient Hebrew the Aleph depicts the head of an ox. It represents strength or headship.

Beyt is the second letter of the Hebrew Alephbeyt. I don't think that this happened randomly either. In Ancient Hebrew the Beyt depicts a tent.

So Aleph (is the head) of the house (beyt), the house's (beyt) head (Aleph); just as Yahshua is the headship of his bride.

"Feasts" is a very poor translation of the word "Moedim."

A much better translation would be both the words, appointment, and rehearsal.

I believe that Yah calls us to these rehearsals year after year; so that we will continue to grow in our understanding of his plans for us.

bbbbbbb · 2025-09-17T22:57:41-0500

Zanzibar

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bbbbbbb · 2025-09-17T22:55:22-0500

South pole is really south.

boughtwithaprice · 2025-09-17T22:54:36-0500

Gnosticism is a heresy spoken of by Iraneus. It still has influence in modern times. Here is what I found interesting

How Gnosticism Manifests in Modern Christianity

Emphasis on Subjective Experience:
A focus on personal, mystical, and spiritual experiences over traditional doctrines, authorities, and institutions.
Rejection of Traditional Authority:
Skepticism toward established church structures, creeds, and systematic theology, favoring individual interpretation and "inner light".
Cultural Dualism:
Ideas of an "authentic self" separate from the body, as seen in the "transgender movement," and a potential justification for abortion by prioritizing the metaphysical self over the physical body are linked to Gnostic dualism by some critics.
Focus on Immanence:
An emphasis on God's direct presence within the individual "spark" rather than God's distant sovereignty.

Key Points of Distinction

Orthodox Christianity
teaches that the material world is good and created by God, and salvation comes through faith in Jesus Christ.
Gnosticism
sees the material world as a flawed creation by a lesser god, and salvation comes through achieving special knowledge

A2SG · 2025-09-17T22:54:08-0500

DaisyDay said:
This is pure governmental overreach. The investigators are not supposed to start with a person and then find a crime to charge them with. Going after the president’s enemies has the appearance of corruption.

I'd go so far as to say we're well past the appearance of that.

-- A2SG, then again, what else can you expect when you elect a convicted felon?

RileyG · 2025-09-17T22:52:15-0500

A2SG said:
Yup.

-- A2SG, didn't disagree...just commented on conclusions drawn from that happening....

Cool

Have a lovely evening

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