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Apple Sky · 2025-11-20T11:03:26-0600

Sunset of orange not on

UVOOV

WolfGate · 2025-11-20T10:59:37-0600

Servus said:
Must be a problem with the music:

Skillet Lyrics
"O Come, O Come Emmanuel"

O come, O come, Emmanuel
And ransom captive Israel
That mourns in lonely exile here
Until the Son of God appear

Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee, O Israel

O come, Thou Rod of Jesse, free Jesse free
Thine own from Satan's tyranny Tyranny
From depths of hell Thy people save
And give them victory o'er the grave

Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee, O Israel

God is with us
He's with us now
O come, o come Emmanuel
O come, Thou Dayspring, come and cheer
Our spirits by Thine advent here
Disperse the gloomy clouds of night
And death's dark shadows put to flight

Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee, O Israel
Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee, O Israel

Rejoice! Rejoice! Emmanuel
Shall come to thee, O Israel

God is with us
He's with us now
Oh, our God is Emmanuel

That is the "concern". The first couple of minutes of the song are very true musically to the traditional version. Then the song moves into a very heavy breakdown, with the last 2 segments you show being sung in a heavy style. It then shifts back to more traditional music and finishes with "
O come, o come Emmanuel. He's with us now".

It makes sense what they are doing musically. The song points back to a time when the Israelites were enslaved and in anguish in many ways. The song reflects the reality that we do call out to God in anguish and as believers ultimately put our faith in God and his grace. The song musically reflect the hope, then the anguish and ultimately resolves with that knowledge that God is with us. Their version of the song is clearly not meant to be performed that way in churches, but they are already performing it in concerts with audiences of diverse faith beliefs.

To me the criticism is really preferences and some who feel like their preferences are somehow God ordained while other peoples are not. I'm not a fan of current Skillet; I think their best years are way behind them and the current rendition is pretty boring. However, you can't make a real case that they are not theologically Nicene Christians, and unlike many they openly take their music into the secular world. I've seen them playing at a festival in front of over 50,000 people put the prophies of Christ from Isaiah on the screen behind them as they sing a song about Salvation. I've seen their open Christianity playing to secular audiences, and I'm certain it has caused many people to both investigate Christ and to know that it's not just what they see portrayed in the media.

DaisyDay · 2025-11-20T10:59:17-0600

GoldenBoy89 said:
I’m more disturbed these are the kinds of criminals the CBP/ICE have running around with guns harassing innocent people.

Yeah, that too.

Bob S · 2025-11-20T10:58:20-0600

HIM said:
And Jesus kept the Sabbath wherever he was in His travels. Sundown varied depending on His location and the lay of the land, as it does now everywhere regardless of where we are in any given time zone.

And as was said, No one knows where Eden was. So obviously where sundown was during it's inception is inconsequential.

Do you believe moving the start of the Sabbath from Mt Sinai to start at IDL is inconsequential for those who believe man is still under the ritual laws of the Old Covenant?

Mark Quayle · 2025-11-20T10:58:13-0600

Hawkins said:
No, you comprehend wrong. Human decisions are subject to influences, though the mathematical expected outcome can still be normalized. The positive and negative influences include such as the guiding of the Holy Spirit (positive) and the temptation of the devil (negative). Free will isn't without influences, but free will still follows the mathematical rule to work with or without such influences. Or else it won't be called "free will" at all. To put it another way, free will is still free will when it is under influences, it still follows mathematical rule to function. Of course, God reserves the right to alter the outcome with manual intervention (if that's what you mean to say), it by no means says God needs (as a necessity) to alter each and every single bit of free will to deliever the outcome. He can just sit back to allow the rule function. It more or less resembles the miracles. God doesn't need to apply miracles (intervention) to maintain everything, everything can follow physical laws to function by itself though at the same time subject to the possibilities of God's intervention (such as parting the Red Sea).

Didn't I say it can be mathematically described? But even you said, "with normal distribution". That implies something about causation. the fact that the lines of causation are too vast and complicated for us to decipher doesn't mean that there actually is something we call "chance". It only means that we think that way.

You say, "Or else it won't be called "free will" at all". So what? The fact it is called "free will" doesn't make it free. I've heard it argued that since the dictionary defines "freewill" how it does, that it is therefore a fact! No, it only shows that that is what WE mean by it. And that only shows that we think of it as free. We use most words pretty loosely—"You are free to go"; "Buy two, get one free"; Freely give, freely receive"; "You are free to choose according to your inclinations"; I used to say there is such a thing as free will, by which I only meant that our choices are real, with real—even eternal—results. But people still took me wrong, so I avoid saying there is such a thing. If all you mean by free will is that people are free to do as they wish, that is fine with me. But if you say that free will means that they do things, uncaused to do so, then I disagree.

You say, "...it by no means says God needs (as a necessity) to alter each and every single bit of free will to deliever the outcome." I say he doesn't need to alter it at all. He USES it! Predestination/ determinism/ decree/ creating-ex-nihilo implies that what a person "freely" chooses to do, just like all other things that happen [down to the smallest motion of matter/force/thought], is caused to be what it is, to accomplish God's purposes. God needn't alter anything. WE are the ones who consider some things "natural" and other things "intervention", as though one takes more than the other for God to do. But the fact is, ALL is caused to be what it is by God. Existence itself is miracle, in that sense. You say, "He can just sit back to allow the rule function." Very fact itself is maintained by God. The difference is how WE look at it. God doesn't stop paying attention, nor does he pay more particular attention, to either one.

You say, "...everything can follow physical laws to function by itself...". Well, yes, physical laws are how WE see the usual. But there is no usual, normal, natural, apart from God's doing. When God "rested" on the 7th day of Creation, it doesn't mean he ceased 'exerting'* himself. It only means he ceased from creating at that point.

When you get time, take a good look at the "Attributes of God" —particularly Aseity, Simplicity and Immanence.

*("exerting" is said, there, for lack of a better word, and as human thinking needs it. It doesn't really describe how God does what he does. God doesn't get tired. For him, "act" is not "effort". He doesn't try to do; he simply does.)

BibleBeliever1611 · 2025-11-20T10:57:15-0600

If I have doubts about my faith I always try to think of this verse:

"Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" - 2 Corinthians 13:5

So if you really are in the faith you should know it by yourself.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-20T10:56:13-0600

I'm tucked in a little corner of unincorporated Los Angeles County, with good views of downtown LA. This image is my profile banner, so this was taken a few years ago and from a park not far from home, but the view is pretty similar to the real one out my window. We've had a lot of rain (for desert Los Angeles) this November, and there's a little snow on the tallest hills, similar to what's shown below. I do get joy looking out the window on 'my' city.

CLEEB · 2025-11-20T10:55:35-0600

Delvianna said:
Right, when I say works, I mean the idea that you can do a bunch of stuff and that gets you to heaven. There are denominations that hold to that teaching. Godly works proves you have the spirit but that is different than doing works and thinking that is what will save you. That's putting faith in works over putting faith in Christ. So righteous works are a product of the spirit and proves your standing in Christ, where there are people who say "I'm a good person, I'll get into heaven" and they mean because of their works. So if a denomination teaches that's how you get to heaven... that entire denomination won't be there. There are other aspects too like some denominations have created other "gods" essentially, some have created idols, some have created haughty spirits, and if that's the fundamental of their teaching, that's getting them no where either. Since scripture says:

Jeremiah 11:16–17:

That is what Paul references in Romans 11 and what we are grafted into. Grace doesn't mean license to continually sin against him and we see that in the new testament with the idea of the tribulation period in general. It is WRATH because of rejection of repentance against sin (Revelation 6). This is why the gate is narrow and "few" find it because there are practices by a lot of denominations that are really big sins against God which means, no salvation unless they stop.

Yes. Gentiles were grafted into the olive tree to replace the unbelieving Israelites, that were many, only a few were believers. The root of this olive tree were all the believers before Israel existed, the people mentioned in Hebrews 11. The root supports the branches. The same rewards go to them as to the branches. They together with us will be made perfect. Hebrews 11:40 All of these people from root to branches, the entire olive tree is called the Israel of GOD. Galatians 6:16 and not everyone of the nation of Israel is of the Israel of GOD. Romans 9:6 The church is built on the foundation of the prophets and Apostles with Jesus as chief cornerstone. This entire building is a dwelling place for GODS spirit. Ephesians 2:19-22 What this teaches me is that the church did not begin on Pentecost but long ago with righteous Able and that Pentecost was to continue the church into the addition of the Gentiles which is the great mystery Paul described. Colossians 1:24-27 The church is now in the times of the Gentiles and modern day Israelites experience a hardening of their hearts that will last until the fullness of the Gentiles be called into the church. Romans 11:25-32 At sometime after Jesus returns and the unbelieving Israelites can be grafted back into the olive tree which is the Israel of GOD. Hint: this directly relates to Revelation 7:1-8 and Revelation 14:1-5

sovereigngrace · 2025-11-20T10:50:02-0600

Douggg said:
The text does not say that the good olive tree is Israel.

The good olive tree is people who believe God and are saved. Not any particular nation.

Can you answer these simple questions?

1. The Bible says we (the redeemed of all nations and ethnic groups) have been grafted into 'an Israeli tree' (Romans 9-11). Is that an ethnic or spiritual tree?
2. The Bible says we who were once aliens from the "citizenship of Israel" have now been brought in through the blood of Christ to that privileged place (Ephesians 2). Is that ethnic or spiritual Israel?
3. The Bible says that Jew and Gentile alike, have now been graciously merged together into "the Israel of God" (Galatians 6:15-16). Is that ethnic or spiritual Israel?
4. The Bible says we are 'Jews' and we are "the circumcision" today (Romans 2:25-29; Philippians 3:3 and Colossians 2:11). Is that ethnic or spiritual Jews?
5. The Bible says we are "the children of Abraham" (Romans 4:11; 4:13-15; 4:16-18; 9:6-8; Galatians 3:7-9; 3:12-14; 3:16 and 3:26-29) today. Are we the ethnic or spiritual "children of Abraham"?
6. The Bible says we now reside and abide in "Jerusalem" and "Mount Zion" (Matthew 21:42-46; John 3:3; Romans 9:33; 11:26; Ephesians 1:3; Ephesians 2:4-6; Philippians 3:20; Hebrews 12:22 and 1 Peter 2:5-10). Is that natural physical earthly "Jerusalem" and "Mount Zion" or is that spiritual heavenly "Jerusalem" and "Mount Zion"?

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-20T10:43:42-0600

essentialsaltes said:
Nancy Mace moves to force vote on censuring Cory Mills

The censure vote is avoided, but only because the matter has been punted to the Ethics Committee.

The House Ethics Committee voted Wednesday to establish an investigative subcommittee to examine allegations that Florida Republican Rep. Cory Mills broke campaign finance law and engaged in sexual misconduct and dating violence.

The significant step by the panel came ahead of a vote Wednesday night on GOP Rep. Nancy Mace's measure that would have censured Mills and removed him from his House committee assignments.

Ultimately, the House voted 310-103 to refer the censure resolution against Mills to the House Ethics Committee -- preventing the lower chamber from having to weigh in on publicly rebuking the congressman.

"You're a disgrace," Mace said to Mills [on the floor, as the clerk read out the censure resolution]

Michie · 2025-11-20T10:38:31-0600

Bishop Michael T. Martin of the Diocese of Charlotte issued a Mass dispensation for any person who fears he or she may be subject to deportation and called for a day of prayer and fasting for migrants as immigration enforcement ramps up throughout North Carolina.

The bishop published the statement on Nov. 18 telling those “who are afraid to come to church” out of fear they could be deported “are not obligated to attend Mass.” These conditions, he said, are “circumstances beyond your control.”

Martin said the Church has always taught that the normal Sunday Mass obligation does not apply when a person cannot attend due to situations he or she does not control.

“I encourage you to take consolation in Jesus’ refrain when the disciples were in the boat being swamped by stormy seas: ‘Do not be afraid!’ (Mt 14:27),” Martin added. “Your brothers and sisters are praying with you, and on your behalf, to God who desires our citizenship together in heaven and longs to see us live in harmony with each other on earth.”

The diocesan statement comes after the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) launched Operation Charlotte’s Web late last week, which escalated immigration enforcement in North Carolina.

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Charlotte bishop grants Mass dispensation amid migrant crackdown

Bishop Michael T. Martin of the Diocese of Charlotte, North Carolina, issued a Mass dispensation and called for a day of prayer and fasting for migrants.

www.catholicnewsagency.com

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-20T10:32:38-0600

The U.S. added 119,000 jobs in September, according to data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. That figure marked an acceleration from the previous month, and it exceeded an average of nearly 100,000 jobs added per month over the first half of 2025.

The report included a downward revision for the month of August, however, slashing performance from 22,000 jobs gained that month to 4,000 jobs lost.

The unemployment rate ticked up to 4.4%, which marks the highest level since October 2021.

SabbathBlessings · 2025-11-20T10:30:06-0600

DamianWarS said:
I know you affirm the 10, but what else is added on. It's a serious question but if you don't want to answer it just say so.

If we can't even accept the Ten Commandments, the Testimony of God, the ones He spoke and wrote Himself, will the other laws matter? There is not any other law that we are to keep, that would not fit under one of the Ten Commandments the way Jesus explained them (magnified Isa42:21 Mat5:19-30) because they are exceedingly broad. Psa119:96. Man wants to lower the works of God Exo32:16 to be equal or lower than man, but God never did, either did Moses.

Michie · 2025-11-20T10:27:18-0600

Longtime immigrant rights advocate Sister JoAnn Persch died on Nov. 14 at age 91.

Two weeks before her death, Persch attempted to bring Communion to detainees at the Broadview, Illinois, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility where for decades the Sisters of Mercy ministered to migrants and refugees. Officials denied her entry.

Persch and Sister Pat Murphy were founding members of the Su Casa Catholic Worker House in Chicago, serving refugees from Central America who were survivors of war, torture, and political persecution. From 1997 until 2002, the pair ministered at Casa Notre Dame in Chicago, a shelter for women fleeing domestic violence or recovering from addiction.

Beginning in January 2007, the two sisters attended prayer vigils every Friday morning outside the Broadview ICE facility where they encountered migrants scheduled for deportation and followed Murphy’s advice that “prayer is powerful, but you also have to put your body on the line.”

Through perseverance, Persch said she gained entry to the ICE facility during those years despite initial repeated refusals from government officials.

“Our motto is peacefully, respectfully, but never take no for an answer, so we kept working with ICE,” Persch said Nov. 1. “Finally, we got inside.”

‘It was so traumatic’

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Immigrant rights advocate Mercy Sister JoAnn Persch, 91, dies

Two weeks before her death, Sister JoAnn Persch attempted to bring Communion to detainees in Illinois. She was denied.

www.catholicnewsagency.com

PloverWing · 2025-11-20T10:26:47-0600

Pepperdoodle said:
I said "change my mind".
Not referring to saying a fact was wrong on something, but I'm referring to things like:
I'm prochoice, but then they changed their mind/heart and I'm now prolife or.....yes I believe trans is real, but then they changed their mind/heart and now admit it's not.
Big things, life decisions on topics, staunch adherence/loyalty to a wrong thing, an ungodly thing, etc.
Those are the type of things I'm referring to.....not, oh, I got that fact wrong on something.

How about broadening one's perspective? Here's one of the examples I had in mind in my earlier post -- a religious example, not a political one. I grew up in a tradition that strongly emphasizes the individual. It's the individual person, alone, who makes a decision to follow Jesus. The individual is responsible for their own spiritual growth, through private prayer and solitary Bible reading. The individual person chooses to be baptized, after making a personal commitment to Jesus. The church is, well, a collection of individuals who happen to all be walking in the same direction.

My current church tradition practices infant baptism. I don't object to that, but sometimes it still feels to me like we're pretending the baby has made a decision. So I brought up the question in the STR (Anglican) forum. One of the Anglican priests in that forum ( @Paidiske ) encouraged me to think of baptism as a rite of entrance into the Christian community. And I really hadn't thought of baptism as a communal action before, because of the individualistic emphasis in my childhood church. Infant baptism makes much more sense if it's about a community instead of just an individual.

So, broadening of perspective. I don't see my earlier thinking as wrong, just incomplete. Now, when I think about baptism, I bring in new ideas that I wasn't thinking about before.

At this stage of my life, I don't expect that I'm going to change 180-degrees on anything as fundamental as Christian commitment or human rights. But there are always new things to learn, new sides of complicated questions that I haven't considered before. Sometimes a discussion forum like CF contributes to that learning.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-20T10:25:44-0600

These 5 cities help explain why homicide rates are down across the U.S.

Homicides are down nearly 20 percent this year in 52 of America’s largest cities, a decline that spans both red states and blue states.

Michie · 2025-11-20T10:23:13-0600

Bishop Strickland is a beacon of light amongst the Bishops imo. I really admire him.

Laodicean60 · 2025-11-20T10:21:32-0600

mindlight said:
So what are the new areas where America and its allies are blind to global trends but the Communists are already preparing. Do we have a plan or are we just going to let Wall Street bungle this one also as they did with Rare Earths?

We weren't blind to the National security issue with China and their rare earths. We knew about this since 2010, on their first embargo. The media has done a good job distracting us from the real issues facing both left and right Americans. Our politicians didn't have the political will to make themselves look bad for the good of the country in 2010, and China is playing the same shenanigans today.

If we were to get into a hot war with Russia or China, we wouldn't be able to keep up with armament production and would be heavily reliant on the other NATO members.

chevyontheriver said:
Rare earth metals are not that rare but the isolation of them is difficult. It causes a lot of pollution. China was willing to take that on, as perhaps the most polluted and polluting country on the planet. Maybe we can do it better, now that prices are high, but maybe not.

Political will to do what's right. I think climate change had something to do with Obama not taking action.

Michie · 2025-11-20T10:19:22-0600

Advocates in New York state are petitioning a Catholic foundation there to help fund major pension shortages and church preservation efforts as well as to help support victims of clergy sex abuse.

In a Nov. 13 letter to the Mother Cabrini Health Foundation in New York City, representatives of the group Save Our Buffalo Churches, sexual abuse victims, and pensioners of the former St. Clare’s Hospital asked the foundation to help the three communities with the “profound hardship” they are experiencing.

Numerous parishes in Buffalo have been fighting diocesan-mandated closures and mergers over the past year. Hundreds of former workers of St. Clare’s, meanwhile, saw their pensions reduced or eliminated starting in 2018 due to major shortfalls. The hospital itself closed about a decade before.

Abuse victims, meanwhile, have “been locked in a legal morass, denied the long-term healing resources and institutional acknowledgment of the harm they endured,” the letter said.

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Catholic advocates petition New York foundation to fund pensions

Advocates in New York state are petitioning a Catholic foundation to help fund major pension shortages, church preservation efforts, and sex abuse victims.

www.catholicnewsagency.com

Fantine · 2025-11-20T10:17:13-0600

Postvieww said:
This is happening are you sure this is what you want?

Yes. Epstein and Maxwell were involved with Democratic campaigns, etc. He met with a senior aide of Clinton. When Clinton started his foundation, having been bankrupted by rapacious Republican attack dogs, he (or his team) used Epstein's private plane when setting up charitable projects in Asia and Africa. He never visited "the island." No wonder why he sleeps well at night.

This was posted by Max Brantley, retired editor in chief of Arkansas Times, very knowledgeable about Bill Clinton.

Since the House Oversight Committee dropped over 20,000 files from the Epstein estate this week, there have not only been renewed suspicions about Donald Trump - Bill Clinton has also re-entered the chat. Even though I’ve seen a lot of Dems say they don’t care if Clinton gets taken down with Trump, (including me), after digging around all afternoon, I don’t think it’s very likely to happen.
The Clinton-Epstein connection looks damning at first glance.
White House visitor logs show Epstein visited 17 times between 1993 and 1995. Clinton flew on Epstein’s plane 26 times. There’s photos of them together. But when you dig into the actual documents instead of the viral claims, a different picture emerges. One where Clinton’s real connection was to Ghislaine Maxwell through social circles, and Epstein was just the rich guy with the plane.
Here’s what actually happened. Maxwell arrived in New York in the early 1990s as the daughter of British publishing tycoon Robert Maxwell. She already had connections to elite social circles from her father’s world. She met Jeffrey Epstein shortly after her father’s mysterious death in 1991, when she was reportedly looking for a fresh start and Epstein provided the money she needed to maintain her lifestyle. She introduced Epstein to wealthy and powerful people. That was the transaction.
So, let’s talk about those 17 White House visits that get cited as proof Clinton and Epstein were best friends. Visitor logs show Epstein wasn’t there to see Clinton. He was meeting with Mark Middleton, a Clinton aide whose job was literally maintaining contact with the president’s donors. Middleton authorized at least seven of those visits. This wasn’t two buddies hanging out. This was a fundraiser meeting with the fundraising guy. Epstein had donated to Clinton’s campaign and to the White House Historical Association. That bought him access to an aide, not to the Oval Office.
The connection between Clinton and Epstein’s social circle came later, after Clinton left office in 2001. Here’s the part people forget about early 2000s political reality. Most politicians weren’t millionaires yet. Clinton left office with legal debt from impeachment proceedings. When he started the Clinton Foundation and needed to do international humanitarian work, he didn’t have a private jet budget.
Doug Band, Clinton’s chief counselor and the architect of the Clinton Global Initiative, arranged for Epstein’s plane to be used for foundation trips in 2002 and 2003. The 26 flights that show up in the logs were actually four trips: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa for AIDS relief and economic development. Multiple staff members and Secret Service agents were on every leg of every trip. The work was documented by the foundation. This isn’t disputed.
What’s also documented is that Maxwell was on those flights. She was listed in the logs as “GM.” She attended Clinton Foundation events. She eventually became friendly enough with the Clintons to attend Chelsea’s wedding in 2010 - after Epstein had already pleaded guilty in Florida to procuring sex from a minor. That’s the judgment call that’s actually worth criticizing. But I assume no one knew yet the depth of Epstein’s crimes or her involvement.
The flight logs show Clinton stopped using Epstein’s plane in 2003, two years before Epstein’s first arrest. According to Doug Band in a 2020 Vanity Fair interview, he got bad vibes from Epstein during the Africa trip and advised Clinton to cut ties. Band said Epstein made ridiculous claims, like that he’d invented the derivatives market, and Band didn’t want Clinton associated with him. Whether Clinton listened immediately or not, the documented flights ended in 2003.
Now let’s talk about what makes the Clinton connection different from others in these files. Trump has been directly accused in documents im]n this week’s data dump. Emails show Epstein writing about Trump: “Of course he knew about the girls” and referencing incidents at Mar-a-Lago. Prince Andrew was accused by Virginia Giuffre in detailed testimony, settled a lawsuit, and lost his royal duties. Alan Dershowitz was named in victim statements. These are allegations with specifics: dates, locations, circumstances, victims naming them directly.
With Clinton, there’s proximity to evil but no accusation of evil.
Not one victim in five years of document releases has accused Clinton of anything. Multiple people under oath - including Epstein himself in a 2010 deposition and the pilot who flew the plane - said Clinton never visited the private island. The Secret Service found no records of Clinton visiting Little St. James.
The “28 island visits” claim exists nowhere in any official document. No flight log. No victim testimony. No deposition. It just started circulating online because it sounded plausible, and Trump repeated it. That’s how modern conspiracy theories work. Someone says something inflammatory, it gets repeated enough times, and suddenly it becomes “everybody knows” when nobody actually has proof.
The real scandal here is simpler and more boring than the conspiracy version. Clinton had terrible judgment about his associates. He accepted help from a billionaire who turned out to be a monster because his foundation needed resources. He maintained a social connection to Maxwell longer than he should have because she was connected to his daughter and his foundation work. His aide Doug Band eventually tried to bar Maxwell from Clinton events in 2011 when the allegations became public, but by then she’d already attended Chelsea’s wedding.
By the time Clinton stepped on Epstein’s plane - he had already been through an impeachment for an inappropriate relationship. It’s highly unlikely that he used one of his foundation’s trips to let it all hang loose with his staff and other people he did not know very well. The actual question is why this particular rumor has so much staying power when the documents don’t support it. Maybe it’s because Clinton is already associated with sexual misconduct from his own actions with Monica Lewinsky and others. Maybe it’s because people don’t trust powerful men to tell the truth about powerful men. Maybe it’s because the Epstein case is so horrifying we want to believe everyone connected to him must have been part of it.
Or maybe it’s because people, like me, don’t do any research before they post photos like the one in the post right before this one.
That photo is real and it does look bad. But here’s the important context: Chauntae Davies herself, the Epstein victim in the photo, said Clinton was “a perfect gentleman” and she “saw absolutely no foul play involving him.” The massage happened during a refueling stop in Portugal during that documented 2002 Africa humanitarian trip. Maxwell suggested it as a joke when Clinton complained about stiffness from sleeping in his chair, and Davies said everyone laughed but Maxwell insisted.
Davies has been very clear in multiple interviews that while Epstein raped and abused her repeatedly for four years, nothing happened with Clinton on that trip. She actually said it was “the single most amazing moment of my life” and she had a “false belief that the abuse had stopped” during the Africa trip because Epstein didn’t assault her while Clinton and the others were there.
This is exactly the kind of thing that looks terrible in a photo but the actual victim says wasn’t misconduct. It’s awkward, it shows terrible judgment about who Clinton was traveling with, but it’s not evidence of Clinton participating in Epstein’s crimes. The victim herself has never accused Clinton of anything.
So - yeah - my bad.
#ratcepsteinfiles

Michie · 2025-11-20T10:16:21-0600

In 1965, Polish bishops sent a letter of reconciliation to their German counterparts. “We grant forgiveness and ask for forgiveness,” they wrote on Nov. 18. The German episcopate responded on Dec. 5, 1965, expressing the hope that “the evil spirit of hatred may never again separate our hands.”

It was a significant two-sided gesture of reconciliation after World War II, when Nazi Germany invaded Poland, killing many people and establishing concentration camps on Polish soil. Sixty years later, a commemoration took place in Wrocław on Tuesday, Nov. 18, with delegates of both episcopates including their chairs, German Bishop Georg Bätzing and Polish Archbishop Tadeusz Wojda. Polish Cardinal Grzegorz Ryś and German Cardinal Rainer Maria Woelki were also present.

They gathered at the monument to Archbishop Bolesław Kominek — later cardinal — who had been behind the idea of the Polish letter and served as archbishop in Wrocław.

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60 years later: Polish-German bishops honor historic reconciliation gesture

Polish and German bishops commemorated this week the 60th anniversary of the historic 1965 reconciliation letters that became a model for European peace.

www.catholicnewsagency.com

Robban · 2025-11-20T10:08:36-0600

BibleBeliever1611 said:
I would say it's commandments also. It's not like we're just here living a Christian life casually and reading the Bible, no, we're supposed to have a mission. Christianity is all about a mission and the mission is to get souls saved.

Judaism`s mission is to bring light into the world.

Psalms 49 tells that a man cannot redeem his brother, nor pay his ransom to God.

The redemption of their soul is too costly, and forever unattainable.

Brother Del · 2025-11-20T10:08:07-0600

A brother takes the time to write a heartfelt testimony.

His thread is immediately hijacked by a couple of geniuses in debate.

Welcome to christian forums.

Michie · 2025-11-20T10:05:41-0600

WASHINGTON — The Museum of the Bible's latest exhibit, “Dead Sea Scrolls: The Exhibition,” features the oldest copies of biblical fragments, and Matthias Walther, the museum’s chief marketing officer, hopes it will invite nonbelievers to reconsider their assumptions about the Bible.

“When you come here, you see the actual documents. You go back to the source,” Walther told The Christian Post during a preview of the exhibit on Wednesday ahead of its weekend opening.

“And all the theories that you have about ‘Is this true,' 'Is this not true,' and ‘Can I trust the Bible or not?’ I hope this will be a step to say, ‘Man, there's something there that I need to discover,’” Walther added. “‘Maybe I need to do my homework and identify all the preconceived notions that I had about this book. Maybe they're not true?’”

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Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit at Museum of the Bible invites nonbelievers to witness 'power' of biblical texts

The Museum of the Bible will display of the oldest copies of biblical fragments in Dead Sea Scrolls The Exhibition, which Matthias Walther, the museum s chief marketing officer, hopes will invite

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Nancy Mace moves to force vote on censuring Cory Mills

‘It was so traumatic’

These 5 cities help explain why homicide rates are down across the U.S.