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Apple Sky · 2025-11-28T06:09:04-0600

David Lamb said:
Yes they have. For example, here is a quote of one of Strong in Him's posts:

And this is only 5, I understand that some of the verses don't relate to a F/E but the majority do.

johnnypapa · 2025-11-28T05:59:18-0600

Novena for the Holy Souls Day 7 11-28-25

God, Father of Mercy, satisfy this their ardent desire! Send them Thy holy Angel to announce to them that Thou, their Father, are now reconciled with them through the suffering and death of Jesus, and that the moment of their deliverance has arrived.

Say one Our Father, one Hail Mary, and the Prayer to Our Suffering Saviour for the Holy Souls in Purgatory below.

Prayer to Our Suffering Saviour for the Holy Souls in Purgatory

O most sweet Jesus, through the bloody sweat which Thou didst suffer in the Garden of Gethsemani, have mercy on these Blessed Souls. Have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer during Thy most cruel scourging, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in Thy most painful crowning with thorns, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in carrying Thy cross to Calvary, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer during Thy most cruel Crucifixion, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the pains which Thou didst suffer in Thy most bitter agony on the Cross, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

O most sweet Jesus, through the immense pain which Thou didst suffer in breathing forth Thy Blessed Soul, have mercy on them. R. Have mercy on them, O Lord.

(Recommend yourself to the Souls in Purgatory and mention your intentions here)

Blessed Souls, I have prayed for thee; I entreat thee, who are so dear to God, and who are secure of never losing Him, to pray for me a miserable sinner, who is in danger of being damned, and of losing God forever. Amen.

Nithavela · 2025-11-28T05:56:30-0600

wing2000 said:
Can you provide an example of *anyone* "feeling sorry for the guy"?

Anything less than screaming for their lynching is being too soft-hearted.

Perpetual Student · 2025-11-28T05:54:37-0600

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
[...]Many Americans with South American ancestry have relatives who are not legal residents of the United States. These mass deportations are affecting them. The poll indicates that 70% of the Hispanic community do not support President Trump’s policy of mass deportation.

Those who are dissatisfied may not heed your suggestion to "then go with his mother." Instead, if they are of legal age, they are likely to vote for another party, which could place the Republican Party at a disadvantage for at least a generation. Millions of Hispanic Americans affected by this policy may never vote for the GOP again.

You seem only interested in mass deportation over the next three years, without concern for whether the GOP wins future national elections.

I, on the other hand, disagree with President Trump on many issue but still care about the Republican Party. I hope that after 2028, the GOP will become moderate, perhaps following the examples of Ronald Reagan or John McCain, and move forward. However, this cannot happen if the majority of Hispanic voters despise the GOP.

Are you suggesting that a Republican administration should ignore law breaking, just to gain some petty votes?

NBB · 2025-11-28T05:52:46-0600

I believe a country should limit immigration if its affecting them,
but this is very discriminatory, is despising the poor and who is in need, the bible has some harsh words about that.
Lots of immigrants came to america in a ship with nothing but the clothes.
My cousin is from a 'third world country' and he made the 'american dream' in usa, wife cars, hobbies, houses, etc etc

Servus · 2025-11-28T05:41:08-0600

MarkSB said:
Well, if it came off that way, I do apologize.

What I'm seeing from my end is that when confronted with evidence that contradicts your point, you change the subject and act like the evidence was never presented. Whether it was intentional or not, I see that quite a bit on these forums. I understand that its a politics forum, so that's par for the course. But the naive Christian in me somewhere deep down still expects better when it comes to dealing with other Christians.

I don't think most people are going to want to restart a debate they were in several months go. The backtracking and re-reading everything involved to get back up to speed just isn't worth it. That's all there is to it. No strategies, no ulterior motives, no this or that. I just don't want to go through that process. To which you can say "okay I understand" and then cut me loose.

Shemjaza · 2025-11-28T05:26:50-0600

Kjelete said:
I was thinking, scientists say psychics breaks down when a star implodes. Everything`s limited to the speed of light, except when a star is imploding, dying, it can expand as fast as it wants to, they say.

Does that mean you can find a dying star, and then ride the wave when it implodes to travel faster than the speed of light? Is that the only way do it also?

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The light and other material that expands out when the core of a star collapses is still limited by the speed of light... in fact, everything moving through space is.

CLEEB · 2025-11-28T05:25:41-0600

pc_76 said:
Apparently sexual desire itself is a sin according to Christians.

Sexual desire is built into all people. It is the proper application of it that matters. To lust outside of marriage is sin. To lust for another inside marriage is adultery. Lust is the cause of all sin. Lust to steal, lie, murder, commit adultery or fornication , idol worship or anything not of GODS love.

Studyman · 2025-11-28T05:23:53-0600

SabbathBlessings said:
I understand that may be your view, but what I care about is what does the Scriptures state, are the feasts days about animal sacrifices. I am not sure if we are reading the same Bible but the annual feast days were all about animal sacrifices and atonement.
So I going to ask you again, why would God kill innocent sheep and goats before there was sin, just for fun?

I never said, nor does the Bible say, that God killed innocent sheep and goats "before there was sin".

It is my understanding of Scripture, not just a verse here or there, but "ALL" Scriptures, that God desires obedience, respect, honor towards HIM, which is only a reasonable expectation given our very existence is 100% founded in His Mercy and Love to create us in the first place.

I will ask you a question whose answer is necessary before an honest discussion of Scriptures between us can conclude. I answered your question, there is no atonement or Blood (The life of a being) needed, when there is no transgression.

So here is a question for you, and we will see if you will answer.

"In your understanding, Did God know Adam and Eve would sin when HE placed them in the garden"?

We will see if you are really interested in real fellowship and discussion of Scriptures.

Andrewn · 2025-11-28T05:19:52-0600

Dreyma said:
I hope you're right. That does seem more just to me.

If my cat or my dog made a mess, how much punishment do they deserve? Very little, if at all. I would be an evil person if I torture them.

Despite our pitfalls and addictions, we trust ourselves and others in the loving hands of God and Christ.

Apple Sky · 2025-11-28T04:44:03-0600

Ophiolite said:
That said, I do enjoy tartar sauce on my battered hake.

And I do but I prefer cod ^_^

Stopped_lurking · 2025-11-28T04:06:04-0600

stevevw said:
You can't work that out. Obviously you investigate first whether your claim stands up and is correct rather than making unfounded assumptions.

So far the claims seem true.

stevevw said:
Its ironic because the objection is that these researchers are not using good science. Yet the very claims are not based on good science. Thus disqualifying themselves by their own logic.

What was the scientific claim?

stevevw said:
Your throwing back on the person who is being attacked without justification in the first place. The accusation of amateur was in response to the evidence the accusor could have checked for themselves. Remember the accusation is they are an amateur and don't know what they are talking about.

Either they show their methods or their credentials.

stevevw said:
So if your going to make the claim they don't then you better have good evidence and support for that. This includes doing your investigation if this is the case. Afterall they are the one who introduced the claim.

Do you claim that they are experts?

stevevw said:
No thjey have not. Show me where Karolys explanation for why the new software was developed. No reference was made to this section of the video.

It was obviously not needed when the Artifact Foundation did their analysis.

stevevw said:
They both used a measure for circularity and concentricity that used slices of the vase compared to each other and a central axis.

Their processes differ.

stevevw said:
In the fact that where ever the guage metrology shows a certain precision measure for say circularity the scans did the same. They lined up. If the nech showed 1/1000 or 3/1000 of an inch from the gusgae metrology so did the scanning. It did not show a completely different measure.

Therefore any lathing is out of place for that time. To say that these high precision vases which are better than those that came 1,000 years later with the Bore stick on the walls is silly.

They are not that good from their own data, IMO

stevevw said:
So at the very least we would logically conclude that if the later Egyptians got pretty good precision with Bore Stick tech. Then these predynastic vases must have also involved some sort of lathing or device that produced even better precision. Yet there was not even a potters wheel or Bore stick tech.

No its not. We have preliminary evidence of stone softening and casting or messing around with the texture and material of stones. We have evidence of alternative methods besides the orthodox dolerite pounders on granite in the scoop marks that look like stone was softened.

No we don't have that evidence.

stevevw said:
We have ample clear cut signatures of machining all over the stones. Why would we not be open to the possibility of advanced knowledge in working with the hardest stones. Afterall they had 10's of 1,000's of years of experience. Thats all they had to work with but stone up until the very later periods.

I'm sure they were really good at working with stone, I haven't said any in opposition to that.

stevevw said:
They were involved in the field professionally. They were at the professor level in the field of software development and specially related to ancient culture. In the case of Smith he was actually making very similar objects to the vases in the metal parts he made. He knew everything there is to know about tooling and machining when it comes to creating objects.

What objects are similar to the vases?

stevevw said:
Yet because this was not investigated and it was assumed they were amateurs because the underlying assumption was already made that anyone suggesting such possibilities must be doing psuedoscience and therefore amateurs.

Its so easy to make claims without actually providing the evidence. What part of Photogrammetry, Image Scanning, 3D reconstructions and Digitalisation of cultural images is not related to software development that can capture the vases.

If you read his scientific output, it is about the application of photogrammetry in different fields not writing code.

stevevw said:
I would have though digitalisation and 3D reconstructions of cultural artifacts is exactly related.

This is what I am talking about unsupported claims that double down and still with no actual evidence. Remembering these experts are said to be amateurs. To say they have no idea is rediculous and bias when at the very least they cover fields related.

So what did Marian do in the code development? Is it published anywhere, a GitHub perhaps?

stevevw said:
I think once theses good people are made out to be amateurs they will never live that down. Because acknowledging they know what they are talking about means admitting defeat and I don't think skeptics will do that.

Then this I think is part of the dismissal because KIngs case is a clear slam dunk case of bias.

No, if you just assert I'll respond with assertions

stevevw said:
One you can't fob off with claims that he is not a expert in the fioeld. Yet was obviously made out to be one without proper investigation. Thus exposing the bias. Thus lending weight to the bias against others like Marcis.

See this is surely a subjective opinion. The scientists say it like they are not exaggerating. So who do I believe. You on a social media site or the direct words out of the scientists who did the tests.

Either they can produce the new technology, or publish about it or apply for a patent.

stevevw said:
By the looks of it no one has tried yet. You have to get access to bring in machinery and all that. The last time this was allowed was to find any new cavities with Muon detectors. Or the acoustic tests mentioned.

But theorectically its a good possibilitiy. There are also some independent researchers like the vases who are gathering evidence. I have not mentioned these because they have no scientific papers yet.

It seems the only tests so far are the acoustic tests actually done inside the pyramid. But the tests showing that pink granite under stress of vibrations of some sort can produce piezoelectric effect is beyond doubt.

The combination of modelling that shows energy waves concentrated into the chambers already. Along with the potential effects of granite that is in those chambers supports the hypothesis so far. Certyainly nothing to be dismissed as Woo or conspiracy.

Yes but it was a certain energy wave and not any that is external to the pyramid. Did was not that the point. If it just captured the stuff that is everywhere then so what. Its that it captured a particular radio wave in a partuclar part of the pyramid as opposed to anywhere else.

Now what happens at that stage maybe something else that is added to enhance or utilised that energy into something else. But it seems the pyramid shape and its specific internal structure is able to capture certain radio waves. In a cavity that also has the potential for other energy manipulation in the material or with added acoustics or pressure or thermal treatment.

Actually there is but its all spectulation. This is the part we have to test in various ways. All the modelling and hypothesis is done. Its now a case of testing this on site. Its exaciting I think.

I thought you said that there was some evidence for that the pyramids was used as an energy sources. So far you have presented none.

Jerry N. · 2025-11-28T03:43:18-0600

Robban said:
Humpty dumpty sat on a wall, humpty dumpty had a great fall.

One question I have heard asked is," What was an egg doing on a wall in the first place?"

Humpty dumpty was probably a cannon. “From 1996, the website of the Colchester tourist board attributed the origin of the rhyme to a cannon recorded as used from the church of St Mary-at-the-Walls by the Royalist defenders in the siege of 1648.[24] In 1648, Colchester was a walled town with a castle and several churches and was protected by the city wall. The story given was that a large cannon, which the website claimed was colloquially called Humpty Dumpty, was strategically placed on the wall. A shot from a Parliamentary cannon succeeded in damaging the wall beneath Humpty Dumpty, which caused the cannon to tumble to the ground. The Royalists (or Cavaliers, "all the King's men") attempted to raise Humpty Dumpty on to another part of the wall, but the cannon was so heavy that "All the King's horses and all the King's men couldn't put Humpty together again".” There are other theories, but I think this is the best. Humpty Dumpty - Wikipedia

Aryeh Jay · 2025-11-28T03:30:31-0600

Belk said:
He is being facetious.

There is nothing tious about my face.

Warden_of_the_Storm · 2025-11-28T03:15:54-0600

AV1611VET said:
I suspect it's because he dares to disagree with your beliefs.

Yeah... that's not it at all.

It's definitely more the question of HOW Hovind does it that we find disagreeable. Since it massively amounts to just outright lies from him...

rockytopva · 2025-11-28T03:07:31-0600

The Necessities of Revival… Coming to God thirsty

In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) – John 7 (also the text to Zac's sermon below)

Key word… Thirsty

First Generation – Thirsty for God. There have been so many communities having terrible times in the Southeast. Like men many weeks in the desert they were very thirsty, and a cup of water would have been worth the universe to them. The people of the first generation came to God this way and turned out incredible people. Being thankful and showing much joy over the least little things. And also showing much goodness to the children they would bring about as family.

Second Generation – Thirsty for the world. This generation will spend time educating themselves and bringing in families with the motive for them to have a better life than they did.

Third Generation – The spoiled bunch… Hard to figure out what brings them lasting satisfaction.

We are living in post third generation times... I have not been active in church for the wonder of it all. How would I teach people these days? What are they thirsty for? Almost like a chapter out of the book of Judges in which a bad generation arose after a good one.

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7thKeeper · 2025-11-28T02:04:13-0600

Postvieww said:
False!

True, he has the convictions to back it up.

Larniavc · 2025-11-28T01:21:43-0600

RileyG said:
It’s not about being rude, it’s about integrity.

It IS about being rude. If one insisted that a Christian was by definition in a cult that would be rude and even though one might be accurate it would be beyond rude to state it.

mkr · 2025-11-28T01:12:43-0600

I want to thank everyone who prays for John. I received a message that John is doing better. Praise God.

Hans Blaster · 2025-11-28T01:12:01-0600

Landon Caeli said:
Yeah! You both are aiding religious expansion, by defending it. I am trying to destroy it.

I support the Constitutional right of all in this country to practice their religion, no matter how stupid I think it is.

Mark Quayle · 2025-11-28T01:10:15-0600

timothyu said:
What remains of what we have learned here if nothing else is remembered? Obviously, if we are considered worthy of the Kingdom, then it must be goodness alone. What kind of beings will we then be having no concept of this life? What then of what we call religion is even relevant if we are but a worthy product of this life? Is how we live now, our character, not more important than following house rules?

Isaiah 65:17 For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.

Ecclesiastes 1:11 There is no remembrance of former things, nor will there be any remembrance of later things yet to be among those who come after.

We are considered worthy only because of Christ's worthiness and none of our own. The quality of our faith has nothing to do with our intelligence nor comprehensions, but depends on whether the source of it is God himself or not. This life is not for this life.

keras · 2025-11-28T01:08:55-0600

Zion, the Promised Land
Isaiah 49:14-23 Zion says: The Lord has forsaken me. The Lord says: Can a woman forget her child? I shall never forget you. I have inscribed you on the palms of My hands. Your dwellings are always before My eyes.

Your people will hasten back, while your enemies depart. Look around, your children gather and come to you. They will be as ornaments in the Land.

Once the Land was desolate. Your enemies are now far away. The children born while the Land was occupied by foreigners will now say: This place is too small for us. Zion will say; who bore these children, when I was deserted, where did they come from?

The Lord says; I shall signal to the nations, they will carefully transport My people to their Promised Land. Kings will be your sponsors and great people will serve and honour you. You will know that I am the Lord, none who trust in Me will be disappointed.

Zion: The holy Land, forsaken and desolate, Jeremiah 22:6-7, Hosea 4:3, that is how it will be after the next prophesied event: The Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, an explosion of the sun, directed at the Middle East that will clear and cleanse the entire area. Currently most of the holy Land is occupied by atheists or false religion worshippers. The Jews will be judged, Zechariah 13:7-9, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Hosea 4:3, Zephaniah 1:18, 2 Peter 3:7

‘the enemies depart, they are now far away’: Psalms 83 and Micah 4:11 tell us how the surrounding nations and entities all hate Israel and want to ‘wipe them off the map’. Those attackers will all be killed, some by their own weapons; Psalms 7:12-16, and the rest of the inhabitants will flee. Jeremiah 49:4-5 & 35-37

‘Your people will hasten back’: A part of Judah has returned, but very few are true believers and Judah now faces judgement. Only a remnant will survive in Jerusalem after the Lord cleanses all of the holy Land of every wicked and ungodly person. Isaiah 6:13, Isaiah 66:15-17, Romans 9:27 All true Christians are the Lord’s people, His elect: Romans 9:24-26, Psalms 24:3-5, Malachi 3:16-17

‘The Lord’s people, all those who put their trust in Him’: Christians from every race, nation and language, will be gathered and transported to all the area from the Nile to the Euphrates. Isaiah 66:18b-20, Psalms 107, Jer. 23:3-4, Zechariah 9:16 On that Day their God will save them, they will sparkle like jewels in the Land.

‘The Promised Land’: will be regenerated and become fruitful. Joel 2:21-24, Psalms 126:1-5

Ezekiel 36:8-12 You, mountains of Israel, put forth your branches and bear fruit, for the homecoming of your people is near. Isaiah 51:3

Isaiah 35:1-10 Let the desert be glad, let it flower and rejoice!...Be strong, My people, fear not: your God comes to save you with His vengeance and retribution. Then; understanding will be given to all who couldn’t see or comprehend the Prophetic Word.

A highway will appear and by that road, the Lord’s redeemed people will travel into their heritage. His holy people, set free will enter Zion with shouts of praise for their Redeemer. Gladness and joy will come upon them and suffering and sorrow will be gone.

Psalms 48:11-14 The hills of Zion rejoice, Judah’s cities are glad. Walk about the holy Land, count the towers. Note the fortifications and buildings, so that you can tell about them to the coming generations. For this God is our God, our guide and protector, now and forever.

Psalms 69:35-36 For God will deliver Zion and rebuild the cities of Judah. The children of those who serve Him will inherit the Land and those who love His Name will dwell there.

Isaiah 55:11-13 You will go out with joy and be led forth in peace....the Land will rejoice at your coming.
Reference: Revised English Bible, some verses abridged.

That all this happens before the Return of Jesus in His glory, is made clear by Isaiah 49:23,
‘you will know that I am the Lord’’. First, His people will gather and settle in all of the holy Land. Those who serve the Lord will inherit the Land. Psalms 126:1-5
All this is prophesied to happen as all the faithful Christian peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language, prepare for the glorious Return and Millennial reign of Jesus.

ladodgers6 · 2025-11-28T01:07:10-0600

Fervent said:
We've been through it enough that I see no point in going around again and again. It's no strawman I'm 'beating up" on, it's the capricious theological monster Calvinists prop up with their word games about compatibilist "free will" that's not really free will and God who is wrathful with human beings who are just carrying out what He has supposedly decreed them to do in the first place.

Your assessment of Classical Calvinism is incorrect. I was a Classical Arminian before I became a Classical Calvinist. I recanted the Arminian position because it is a synergistic approach to redemption. The Arminian or synergistic position has a lofty view of fallen man. This is position encompasses a weak view of the Fall and Sin. Fallen Man according to Synergistic camps still possess some power within to save themselves. Perfect example is Partial Regeneration or Prevenient Grace. Though I will note that Calvinists also hold to Prevenient Grace but not in the same paradigm as Arminians or Synergistic theologies do.

Here's an example. I was taught as a Classical Arminian that Prevenient Grace must precede before anything. But here's the fine print as you keep studying. This Prevenient Grace (Arminian) states that it's a Partial Regeneration. Where the sinner is placed somewhere in limbo between life & death to make a decision? Either accept and believe and be saved, or refuse and reject and go to perdition. This didn't sit right with me. Why? Because if a sinner receives and understands their plight before God and know what each decision they make will entail. Why would anyone choose to reject God and got to Hell? Furthermore, why do some choose to accept while others to not? I have asked a lot of people from the Synergistic camp this question with no suffice satisfaction. Besides that Prevenient Grace taught by Arminians was not a Biblical teaching. It is man-made to try to support their view of Free-Will. But ironic enough the Classical Arminian position teaches Total Depravity so by this contradiction, what they give with the right hand they take away with the left hand.

Your thoughts?

Ellesmere · 2025-11-28T01:03:03-0600

1) Given that are currently over 45,000 Christian denominations, groups and sects in the world it shouldn't come as a surprise that no version of the Bible can achieve universal acceptance - even within the Christian community itself!

2) Read the Preface found at the front of any version of the Bible - I challenge anyone to find in these introductory notes the claim that their translation to be "INFALLIBLE!"

3) That being the case leaves the Bible subject to different interpretations!

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Apple Sky · 2025-11-28T00:27:58-0600

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