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Canada's assisted suicide continues to rise, 5% of all deaths: report

Canada saw a record number of citizens end their lives by assisted suicide, with an official report documenting that over 5% of all deaths in the country were as a result of the controversial procedure.

According to a Canadian government report released on Nov. 28, titled “Sixth Annual Report on Medical Assistance in Dying in Canada,” 16,499 people ended their lives in 2024 by medically-assisted suicide, officially known as “Medical Assistance in Dying.”

The 16,499 assisted suicides were among the 22,535 requests for premature death sent to Health Canada. Of the requests that did not result in assisted suicide, 4,017 individuals died of another cause, 1,327 individuals were deemed ineligible for the procedure, and 692 individuals withdrew their requests.

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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

Nobody viewing the videos seems to have seen that except Tom Cotton. Everyone else reports seeing a vastly different picture.
Actually Cotton is backing Admiral Mitch Bradley a decorated officer who was in charge and stated it was a justified strike as they were still in the game.
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Charlie Kirk's murder sparks 'wave' of spiritual action among Americans: report

The murder of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk appears to have "sparked a wave" of spiritual actions, particularly among younger generations, according to a recent poll.

The Barna Group, an Evangelical polling firm, published a survey on Wednesday of 5,003 U.S. adults roughly two months after Kirk's Sept. 10 assassination during an outdoor speaking event at Utah Valley University. The survey is based on interviews with adults ages 18 and older conducted from Oct. 17 through Oct. 30, with a sample error of +/- 1.3 percentage points at a 95% confidence interval.

Among the respondents, one in four Americans reported taking spiritual action after Kirk's death, while fewer reported taking political action.

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AI tells me not to forgive some, is this true?

I do take advice from AI, but I learned to not treat AI like it is perfect in its answers.

I asked AI about forgiveness, it said it's a good thing, but not good to forgive those who are not remorseful, and who are still malicious.

I would find it hard to forgive those people, and very hard to forgive someone who took pleasure in hurting me.

What does the Bible say, am I supposed to really forgive a murderer that killed my mom and dad if it happened? It did not happen just as an example, what if the murderer doesn't take any accountability has no remorse, and the murderer took pleasure in his crimes. Am I still supposed to forgive?

Christian missionaries die in plane crash en route to Jamaica after hurricane

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The world will be re-Christianized after World War III

World War III will break out in 2026 and last for six years before concluding. The old world order will then come to an end. The Luciferian dark forces currently manipulating Western Nations from behind the scenes will retreat, the rule of God will be restored, and the world will be re-Christianized.

America's mandate has ended. The liberal international order, sustained by Pax Americana, will cease to exist after the war. The United Nations, secular nation-states, and liberal democracy will all be consigned to the dustbin of history.

A portion of the old state powers will be destroyed by nuclear bombs, born from the very darkness they themselves nurtured.

As a crucial part of the divine plan for humanity's redemption, he will personally choose a devout Christian monarch in the East. Holding his hand, God will raise up a universal empire aligned with Christian ideals and righteousness. Using this empire as a sword, He will judge this fallen world, and the monarchy-aristocracy system will be restored.

The future of the world is a New World Order led by the emerging Christian Universal Empire.

2037 (tentative) marks the beginning of the New World Order.
A new era of mythology has arrived.
The Eastern Crusaders will wage war against all anti-Christ forces.

The future of the world is a New World Order led by the emerging Christian Universal Empire.

「“Who has stirred up one from the east,calling him in righteousness to his service?He hands nations over to him and subdues kings before him.
He turns them to dust with his sword,to windblown chaff with his bow.」(Isaiah 41:2 )

KJV

That's not the comparison I was making. Calling someone "your honor" is weird in everyday life, but is perfectly acceptable and even expected in court. Calling your friend "sir" would be weirdly formal, but it's appropriate when addressing a superior or a stranger. We use different levels of formality, different kinds of language, based on our circumstances.
But both "Your honour" and "sir" are used in contemporary English. That is nothing to do with using language from over 400 years ago in prayer.
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Zions New Children

Please demonstrate that "Israel" as such went "Oh yeah, here's our Messiah, right on time!?" :doh:
And they rejected Jesus - generally speaking.
Otherwise, why did Jesus weep over Jerusalem?

They expected the Messiah to be one of power, one that will free them from Roman rule at that time.

Jesus at his first coming did not fulfill that expectation. That is why they rejected Jesus as the promised Messiah.

That does not mean they were not expecting God to send one.

Think of Superman the movie, that is probably what the average Jew was expecting their Messiah to be, at his first coming.

Then you're reading it into Peter, when he's actually quoting Joel!

Of course he is quoting Joel, I am just asking you a simple question, what does Acts 2:16-21 says literally?

Does it make sense knowing that the cross was Daniel's 69th week?

If you don't want to do that, we can move on.
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B flat B♭

There is no curvature, the earth is not a sphere, the stars are different b/c it depends whether your in the north or the south & it's all due to perspective just as the sun is, in it's rising & setting.
But that's not evidence. It is just making some more statements. Incidentally, you seem to have strange idea of what perspective means. Perspective makes things look smaller the further away they are from us. Perspective doesn't cause people in the north to see different stars to those people in the south see, not does it cause sunrises and sunsets.
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Conversion Stories

I've said this before and it is private revelation, but I used to be Presbyterian.

Sometime after I'd become Catholic, my Presbyterian pastor (who had died several years before) turned up one night in a vision and said "The Catholic Church is CLOSEST to the truth", with a distinct emphasis on the word "closest". He didn't say it had all the truth or was necessarily correct in everything, but was CLOSEST to the truth.

We had discussed Catholicism and Protestant divisions while he was still alive, and he was getting cynical about all the Protestant divisions, saying at one time "When it comes to theology, Protestants couldn't agree how far to spit!"

But that was my experience.

You need to work through your decision for yourself and RCIA is the way to start. It's the only way actually as it is a necesary step in the journey.
Perhaps he’s still in purgatory.

Praying now for him!

God bless!
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Now does everyone understand why the "right to refuse illegal orders" video was made?

I think that it stands to reason, your great idea pertains to peaceful maritime cruise across the seas. I can't see how it also protects pirates, drug runners, etc... when using the seas as a tool to break the law. Especially when they are cognizant of how their criminality kills multitudes of humans.
Im not sure what you are trying to argue here or how it logically relates to what you quoted. The examples given before and the topic make it clear that we aren't talking about just peaceful maritime events. And I'm not sure how "no physical surrendering gestures required" makes you think "oh this must apply only to peaceful maritime". If a military vessel has blown up a pirate boat and there are survivors in water, yes, they should be picked up. Heck, the British understood this and picked up the survivors of Bismarck, and this was after they'd blown up the Hood.
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The soul of Vladimir Putin

What threat is NATO to Russia?
What threat was Cuba to the USA? When you answer that question you will have answered your own question. (Look up the Cuban missile crisis)
I know Russia is now threatening Nuclear war with Europe. But if the base of NATO being Christian, with Christian causes, what's the problem?
NATO is not Christian. What ever gave you that idea?
Sorry, I'm really ignorant to a lot of stuff.
Unfortunately you are ignorant of a great deal.
Edit- So, Putin's just mad he's being told what countries he can invade and what countries he can't?
Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if NATO had honoured their promise not to expand toward Russia. NATO officials have since publicly stated that they had no intention of honouring their side of the deal. Isn't lying for your advantage a principal of Islam? It certainly isn't a Christian principal.
I know Russia needs to be nuked, before anywhere else. We must cut this thing off at the legs. That sounds horrendous 'Nuke Moscow'... but act before Putin, whatever that means.
No, globalism needs to be cut off at the neck. After the Cold War ended, Russia was keen to become part of the West, however it was not in the interests of the industrial war machine to have Russia as a peaceful ally so they have always been painted as the aggressor (Russians are always depicted as evil in Hollywood).
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Young Men, the Wild Places Are for You

Hey T

I found that metro parks can do in a pinch. I used to have about a twenty minute to a half and hour hike every day in the metro parks before work. I really enjoyed that and looked forward to it. Sometimes these hidden Gems in the cities can be just as rewarding with less expense and travel time. It's a good place to think. There, and I do also do some of my best thinking while shooting hoops alone. BTW, I always wondered if Bigfoot lived in the big city sewer systems of NY. It sounds funny, but they could have access from where the sewers open up outside the city. I've heard stories...:oops:

Dave

I do laps around the two metro parks near me on rollerblades. Doesn't feel the same as the one on the mountains.

The cost is not what's stopping me but time. There are mountain forests within 40 miles of my place and I reach them by bicycle but the round trip takes 5 to 6 hours without stopping and I can't be away from home more than 2 hrs. I used to do this every weekend when my sister lived with us as she can watch over my mom.

I don't bring money on these long trips by bicycle. If anything went wrong that my tools can't fix, I can't just call Uber and I have no one I can call to pick me up. I don't even bring food or snacks, just one half liter bottle of homemade electrolyte drink for the 60 to 80 mile trip.

It was nice while it lasted but I get the same fulfillment with rollerblading now. I figure, it's just a different "forest". In fact rollerblading has become my primary mode of transport around the city. It used to be bicycle. I don't do it because its easy but because it's hard!
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Denaturalization

Removing/deporting a legal immigrant is not denaturalisation - that's only removal of citizenship. Removing/deporting legal immigrants because of fraud or crime committed while being a legal resident is also standard procedure in other countries (a.o. Australia).
I'm talking about denaturalization here. I'm not concerned about just revoking green cards in this thread.
In several countries where dual citizenship is allowed there are also laws that remove the acquired, second citizenship of the new host country in case of serious crimes like terrorism etc. (e..g in Europe in some countries). The person is then simply deported back to the country of this remaining citizenship.

Both categories make sense to me. Why allow residents if they prove to be a serious burden (or worse) to the guest country?

E.g. in Australia being seriously overweight or having some other serious medical condition can be valid reasons why visas are denied. Migrant quotas are limited so a country can be picky in who's allowed in.

When I'm organising a party it's wise not to invite those who thrash my place - or at least remove them when they do.
Once they're citizens, they can trash the place and be arrested just like any other citizen.
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Hello, beautiful people!

Hello there! Im new here myself so I am trying g to get used to being back on forums. I used to be part of a forum a long time ago, like 10-15 years ago. LOL its definitely been a while! But I came here to look for Christian fellowship and in hopes of making a new friend.
Hello, friend.
I hope to locate that same type of fellowship you described.

Best of luck to you!
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Relative of Trump Press Secretary taken by ICE

Provides a path to citizenship for those who are here illegally provided they meet certain conditions.
Trump created a path. If you self-deport you have the right to apply for citizenship to the United States, and our government will give you $1000:
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Donald Trump Says US To Launch Land Action in Venezuela ‘Very Soon’

It's nice to know Americans can still agree on some things but just too bad this administration isn't really interested in what the American people think or feel about anything they're doing.
I don't think that's true at all. Americans vary all the time regarding what administrations are doing. They never show interest in what everyone thinks or feels. Biden sure didn't. So don't try and say its just Trump.

And we can agree on some things despite our differences. And this is certainly one of them. No ground war on Venezuala. I honestly don't think there will be one.
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Consumer Prices Will Go Down From Day One? Will Gas Prices Go Down 50% Within A Year?

I don’t expect them to go down but if they don’t go up I would say that’s an improvement.
I agree that most would welcome prices neither increasing or decreasing. That would be an inflation rate of 0%.
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Although I don't believe this apparently scientists believe life formed on its own

That molecules ended up hitting each other forming amino acids and biological matter and that by chance Earth just had just the right properties to help harbor life, and that these molecules turned into living things, and eventually just knew how to evolve into more complex sentient beings, like all this happened by mere accident.

I believe God was involved, he created life. We are sentient because of him, he knew where to put our fingers, our eyes, and how to make our eyes work, and our body digest food, he has made this all possible.

But of course the scientists would say where is our proof for our belief in the existence of God, we point to Jesus and the testimony, however they want undeniable proof and facts. How do we give them that?
Are you going to provide for discussion, or just tell us the things you don't agree with? (Theology is off topic here.)
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