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Another shooting - Two DC Nat. Guard from W VA Killed

The younger female Guard member has passed away.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone other than Trump assess every situation, even tragedies, according to his personal benefit.
Default: WV supported me overwhelmingly so I might go to.the funeral.
Would not the death of a Guard member from blue Maryland rate a presidential funeral appearance?
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Young earth vs Old earth?

Thank you.
Didn't God rest on the seventh day, and blessed and sanctified that day?
If that day was 24 hours long, how could it be entering Canaan?


It would have been nice if you you had addressed my points so we could have a discussion.
Would you mind responding to my Bible references, and questions?
So sorry, I am trying to keep up with your barage of questions which have faulty reasoning.
God rested on the 7th day... some Isrealites it appears did not understand this is also a reference to our heavenly rest not the earthly rest in Canaan...witness the Hebrews 4 7-9 passages. This is saying the promise of eternal rest still stands...Joshua who led the Isrealites into Canaan for their earthly rest did not achieve that rest, God rested on the 7th day and this was their pattern to follow...they too were to rest on that 7th day and He tells them why in the commandment I cited you already. There is symbolism to follow in Scripture...Proverbs tells us this, Paul unravels some, Jesus unravels much of it.
Joshua 22:4:
4 Now that the Lord your God has given them rest as he promised, return to your homes in the land that Moses the servant of the Lord gave you on the other side of the Jordan.
This is a flavor of the the land of rest, the promised land, Canaan which turns out to be only a symbol of eternal rest...heaven
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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

You are correct. T

The spirit of GOD in true Christians enables in us a change of nature, we partake of the divine nature that doesn’t need to be commanded but is motivated by GODS love in us. Love fulfills law. The Ten Commandments will pass away when heaven and Earth pass away, Revelation 21:1 the Ten Commandments are not for a converted righteous man but for carnal unconverted sinners . Jesus paid the penalty for our breaking the Ten Commandments, once , he will not die for you again if you go back to them again.
sin is transgression of the law ... alive and well ... always has been .... always will be ... the law leads us to Christ and when in Him He leads us back to and law and gives us the power through the Holy Spirt to overcome sin (transgression of the law) .... we do and will stumble here in there yet we are called to strive towards the mark.

Matthew 5:17-18
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. / For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
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University of Minnesota on Whiteness Pandemic

I can understand why you'd say that. You did make the OP [checks watch]
I say it because it is the truth. Obviously not everyone believes every educator or local news outlet. Overall such philosophies are poison to our community.
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How to criticize the Church so it helps, and so you don’t go to Hell

“Many Catholics find themselves between two bad options: Silencing or Skewering”​

Most practicing Catholics can admit they have struggled with particular decisions or statements coming from Church authorities, or with the perceived priorities of the hierarchy that might seem out-of-step with the life of the faithful “on the ground.”

Loving the Church doesn’t mean being blind to the way she’s in need of reform. Nor does it mean ignoring them. But loving the Church doesn’t mean a kind of destructive criticism either, feeding bitterness, resentment, or rebellion.

So the question becomes clear: how can Catholics of good will, desiring holiness and wishing to see the Church become more holy, engage?

This week some continuing studies gave me occasion to revisit a classic, Cardinal Yves Congar’s “True and False Reform in the Church.”

The book remains unusually relevant.

Written in 1950 and influential for many Council Fathers, including Pope St. John XXIII, the text illuminates the spirit of reform leading into Vatican II, and the perennial question of how the Church discerns and grows. Above all, it offers principles for pursuing reform in a way that actually strengthens the Church’s fidelity to her mission.

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I listen carefully to the message and try my best to understand it. I have disagreed with many stated policies.
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Hell doesn't exist as a concept in the bible and was man-made

Paul does not teach that all will be reconciled with God. Verse mining always lead to error.
It's not verse mining. It's his whole message: Christ the new Adam, as all fell with Adam all will be renewed. Sin is a supernatural force which Christ defeats. In the end all will be in Christ.

It is barely possible that in 1 Cor 15, all who survive to the end are reconciled. That is, I will accept the possbility that he envisions some not participating, either not resurrected or destroyed with the Powers in judgement. But there is no room for torture going on in the new world.
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Historic Premillennialism vs Amillennialism

Not according to the authoritative apostolic teaching (1 Th 4:16-17) of Christ (Lk 1:16),

unless the rebirth from eternal death into eternal life by the sovereign will (as unaccountable as the wind, Jn 3:6-8) of the Holy Spirit (Jn 3:3-5) is referred to metaphorically as a "resurrection" in the prophetic riddle (Nu 12:6-8) of Rev.
It's not a secret
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'Unconscionable': Jailed pregnant women giving birth in cells, report claims

Advocates are calling for action after dozens of pregnant women or their families alleged in a new report that jails in the United States have subjected them to severe mistreatment or medical neglect, including women who gave birth on dirty cell floors.

Bloomberg Law and NBC News published the findings after a year-longinvestigation involving interviews with over 60 people, including a dozen previously incarcerated women.

After reviewing federal civil rights lawsuits from 2017 to 2024, the reporters found at least 54 pregnant women or their families alleged to have been subjected to severe mistreatment or medical neglect. Many of the pregnant women who have made allegations about mistreatment had been locked up for "petty crimes," the report states.

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Afghan national charged with first-degree murder for National Guard attack

The 29-year-old Afghan national arrested in connection with Wednesday's shooting of two National Guard members in Washington, D.C., was charged with first-degree murder on Friday, following the death of 20-year-old National Guard Army Specialist Sarah Beckstrom.

Rahmanullah Lakanwal, who immigrated to the U.S. in 2021 and recently settled in Bellingham, Washington, with his wife and five children, was upgraded from initial assault charges following Beckstrom's death, authorities said.

Beckstrom, a West Virginia National Guard member deployed to the capital for security operations, succumbed to her injuries late Thursday at a local hospital, President Donald Trump confirmed in a statement.

The second victim, U.S. Air Force Staff Sgt. Andrew Wolfe, 24, remains in critical but stable condition at George Washington University Hospital, where he underwent emergency surgery.

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anyone know anything about Gematria?

Lord Jesus is the Sun of Righteousness

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The word shemesh, meaning sun, has a gematria of 640, while the numerology of the name Jesus in Greek is 888.

shemesh (sun)
שֶׁמֶשׁ
21. שׂ שׁ Shin/Sin 300
13. מ Mem 40
21. שׂ שׁ Shin/Sin 300
Σ 640

The first appearance of the number 888 in Ф is preceded by the number 640!

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The 640th prime number is 4751

primes
2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29 31 37 41 43 47 53 59 61 67 71 73 79 83 89 97 101 103 107 109 113 127 131 137 139 149 151 157 163 167 173 179 181 191 193 197 199 211 223 227 229 233 239 241 251 257 263 269 271 277 281 283 293 307 311 313 317 331 337 347 349 353 359 367 373 379 383 389 397 401 409 419 421 431 433 439 443 449 457 461 463 467 479 487 491 499 503 509 521 523 541 547 557 563 569 571 577 87 593 599 601 607 613 617 619 631 641 643 647 653 659 661 673 677 683 691 701 709 719 727 733 739 743 751 757 761 769 773 787 797 809 811 821 823 827 829 839 853 857 859 863 877 881 883 887 907 911 919 929 937 941 947 953 967 971 977 983 991 997 1009 1013 1019 1021 1031 1033 1039 1049 1051 1061 1063 1069 1087 1091 1093 1097 1103 1109 1117 1123 1129 1151 1153 1163 1171 1181 1187 1193 1201 1213 1217 1223 1229 1231 1237 1249 1259 1277 1279 1283 1289 1291 1297 1301 1303 1307 1319 1321 1327 1361 1367 1373 1381 1399 1409 1423 1427 1429 1433 1439 1447 1451 1453 1459 1471 1481 1483 1487 1489 1493 1499 1511 1523 1531 1543 1549 1553 1559 1567 1571 1579 1583 1597 1601 1607 1609 1613 1619 1621 1627 1637 1657 1663 1667 1669 1693 1697 1699 1709 1721 1723 1733 1741 1747 1753 1759 1777 1783 1787 1789 1801 1811 1823 1831 1847 1861 1867 1871 1873 1877 1879 1889 1901 1907 1913 1931 1933 1949 1951 1973 1979 1987 1993 1997 1999 2003 2011 2017 2027 2029 2039 2053 2063 2069 2081 2083 2087 2089 2099 2111 2113 2129 2131 2137 2141 2143 2153 2161 2179 2203 2207 2213 2221 2237 2239 2243 2251 2267 2269 2273 2281 2287 2293 2297 2309 2311 2333 2339 2341 2347 2351 2357 2371 2377 2381 2383 2389 2393 2399 2411 2417 2423 2437 2441 2447 2459 2467 2473 2477 2503 2521 2531 2539 2543 2549 2551 2557 2579 2591 2593 2609 2617 2621 2633 2647 2657 2659 2663 2671 2677 2683 2687 2689 2693 2699 2707 2711 2713 2719 2729 2731 2741 2749 2753 2767 2777 2789 2791 2797 2801 2803 2819 2833 2837 2843 2851 2857 2861 2879 2887 2897 2903 2909 2917 2927 2939 2953 2957 2963 2969 2971 2999 3001 3011 3019 3023 3037 3041 3049 3061 3067 3079 3083 3089 3109 3119 3121 3137 3163 3167 3169 3181 3187 3191 3203 3209 3217 3221 3229 3251 3253 3257 3259 3271 3299 3301 3307 3313 3319 3323 3329 3331 3343 3347 3359 3361 3371 3373 3389 3391 3407 3413 3433 3449 3457 3461 3463 3467 3469 3491 3499 3511 3517 3527 3529 3533 3539 3541 3547 3557 3559 3571 3581 3583 3593 3607 3613 3617 3623 3631 3637 3643 3659 3671 3673 3677 3691 3697 3701 3709 3719 3727 3733 3739 3761 3767 3769 3779 3793 3797 3803 3821 3823 3833 3847 3851 3853 3863 3877 3881 3889 3907 3911 3917 3919 3923 3929 3931 3943 3947 3967 3989 4001 4003 4007 4013 4019 4021 4027 4049 4051 4057 4073 4079 4091 4093 4099 4111 4127 4129 4133 4139 4153 4157 4159 4177 4201 4211 4217 4219 4229 4231 4241 4243 4253 4259 4261 4271 4273 4283 4289 4297 4327 4337 4339 4349 4357 4363 4373 4391 4397 4409 4421 4423 4441 4447 4451 4457 4463 4481 4483 4493 4507 4513 4517 4519 4523 4547 4549 4561 4567 4583 4591 4597 4603 4621 4637 4639 4643 4649 4651 4657 4663 4673 4679 4691 4703 4721 4723 4729 4733 4751

The 4751st digit in π, starting with the first decimal place, is 888!

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This is the first time that the number 888 appears in π.

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