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.Mikha'el. · 2025-09-21T02:51:41-0500

It's well-meaning, but ultimately of no force or effect. It's a feel-good gesture designed to bring comfort to his loved ones and those who supported him and his ideas.

mar_mar · 2025-09-21T02:43:23-0500

caffeinated hermit said:
Welcome! There's actually a unique sub-forum for Eastern Orthodox Christians on here, too.

The Ancient Way on CF

I found it, thank you.

Robban · 2025-09-21T02:43:19-0500

joechristianwarrior said:
I am curious to hear you guys' thoughts on the issue of "equality", and whether it even matters to Jesus. I've heard many on the political left argue that it does, though I've heard many others (usually on the political right!) say it doesn't matter, that it's all just "woke" and "Marxism"; and that the only justice important to Christians is that we'll see when Jesus returns.

What do you guys think? I'd encourage everyone to check out this 4-minute video before you reply, as I think it sets good context for some of the dilemma I'm trying to get at with my question. And then let me know what you think, thanks: Login to view embedded media

" I want" v "I need" is the differemce, example, what bird builds a bigger nest than needed?

Hans Blaster · 2025-09-21T02:07:05-0500

mindlight said:
Support of transexuality is a mentally deluded position informed by a culture of lies and prejudice against Christian values.

I have no idea how that can be. I went through 20 years of Christianity and transsexuality NEVER came up. (Abortion, divorce, Yep. Transgenderism, nope.) How can anything related by "prejudice against Chrsitianty. Paranoia is not a good look.

mindlight said:
The assertion of psychological identity over biological and revealed identity is madness. Can a sane person hold a mad position? I guess this does happen.

Good grief. Is that what this all is. I have to break it to you... just because the alleged shooter apparently identifies as "bisexual" does not mean he will get any special consideration for mental health issues in court. Medical science does not recognize such as a mental disorder, so if you want to call it "a sin" go ahead, but the courts don't dance to your religion.

mindlight · 2025-09-21T02:04:46-0500

Michie said:
The widow of Charlie Kirk has been unanimously elected as the new CEO of Turning Point USA, a week after he was assassinated during a college campus tour.

TPUSA’s board members released a public letter on Wednesday announcing their decision to elect Erika Kirk to the positions of CEO and chair of the board for the organization.

“
Charlie prepared all of us for a moment like this one,” stated the board members in the letter. “He worked tirelessly to ensure Turning Point USA was built to survive even the greatest tests.”

“All of us at Turning Point USA have a special role in carrying Charlie Kirk’s mantle and completing his vision of bringing us all closer to our Lord and fostering a prosperous country for generations to come.”

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A martyr's wife and a woman of God with a beauty and intelligence that could help her connect to this generation and make her ministry a fruitful one. May God bless her with the wisdom and discernment to know what is of Him and what is not, and grant her wise counsellors. May the Father, through the Son and by the Spirit, grant her the strength to stand for what is right, no matter the cost. May she magnify His name for the benefit of His Kingdom. May God guard her and her family.

Hans Blaster · 2025-09-21T01:58:03-0500

sjastro said:
I never seen cognitive dissonance to this degree.

Yep.

Learning always · 2025-09-21T01:54:55-0500

bèlla said:
The bible.

Sorry, the Bible is not entertainment.
I've already given a hint somewhere in this subforum, on last Sunday (Australian time).

d taylor · 2025-09-21T01:51:09-0500

Carl Emerson said:
Wow... you are really on fire.... !!!

Again I ask - do you consider it inappropriate to quote these verses in the public space or not ???

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No they should not be used, when a person does not understand what the verses are addressing.

Strong in Him · 2025-09-21T01:43:18-0500

keras said:
Yu simply cannot deny Prophesies like Isaiah 56:1-7 and Ezekiel 40 to 46

I'm not denying prophecies; I'm simply doubting your authority to apply them to current events and times.

Apart from anything else, you have twice given verses saying that they illustrate/prove something when they do nothing of the sort. You have not replied when I've pointed this out. Nor have you given NT teaching showing that sacrifices - presumably animal sacrifices - will be restored in the temple. If you are unable to understand the context and relevance of verses that you quote, how can anyone be assured that you have a grasp of the topic under discussion?

Hans Blaster · 2025-09-21T01:36:29-0500

Aldebaran said:
No, not any minority person. Just the ones who had the bar lowered for them because they weren't qualified, because TPTB decided there not be enough of a certain color employed in a certain area.

Good grief. SMH.

Aldebaran said:
Actual Trump got his position by the vote of the people. Remember that "democracy" thing? Good thing it was saved in time for the 2024 election, eh?

On what planet does anything like privledge and "DEI" type things have anything to do with elections. I was clearly talking about his business and wealth.

Good bye.

Aristarkos · 2025-09-21T01:32:06-0500

Dan Perez said:
WHAT IS PAUL SAYING IN 2 THESS 2:5. ??

If you've read 2 Thess. you must have seen Paul isn't talking about the HS at all just see:

2 Thess 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

This is indeed about the anti-christ and the return of our Lord Christ Jesus. We know that the adversary (Satan) will give his power and might to the antichrist from vs. 9 of the same chapter: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Satan will only have one opportunity for this and that is holding back, so the "withholder" is not the HS but Satan.

Aristarkos

mindlight · 2025-09-21T01:30:07-0500

Richard T said:
If anyone wants to see some personal communication between Charlie Kirk and a friend this public blog posts some of their texts. It showed me that Charlie Kirk was serious about God. Before his death I had never even heard of him. Like most of us I think he was finding his way, but he had alot going for himself in God. The Inspiring Charlie Kirk: My Friendship with a Great Man - by Bill Federer

I have a thought of justice in heaven that suggests everyone's rewards in heaven are not based on just what we do in this life, but if a believers life is cut short, then God's foreknowledge might reward us on what we would have done had we completed the race fully. Otherwise, how would a baby or even the unborn share in any rewards? But no worries, God is entirely just however he does it. He is longsuffering and merciful.

Thanks for the link. I was interested in Bill Federer's comments about the motivation patterns of Kirk's original donors. It seems they also had a heart for God, and that was why they gave the money. As you say, maybe he was just a beginner working out his own response to God and the world. That potential is now lost, but sometimes the blood of the martyrs is more fertile ground than the life of a singular man. This is what sways me to regard him as a martyr, what he was killed for and that people are taking up his banner and proclaiming Christ into every nook and cranny of the darkness of a culture of lies and rebellion across the world.

rusmeister · 2025-09-21T01:25:29-0500

Seraphim . said:
Brother, I am scared to even broach the topic of politics on here. It seems to lead to sin when you even think about it.

Honestly, it seems to lead to fighting every single time a political thing is mentioned, not just fighting but intense stuff. Not just on here either, elsewhere it's even worse than on here, but even on here the fighting is hard to read on many a thread. I've seen some rough stuff going on in this Orthodox forum too.

I know I am a sinner and have no right to judge anyone else, but it makes me sad when I see other Christians who are otherwise doing well, fall purely due to talking about politics online. What a dreadful thing that is.

I think it right to be cautious. But the word “politics” is not a shibboleth, but the discussion of how to order our affairs in this world by what is in our power (which is generally less than we might imagine it to be), just as “religion” is about how we prepare for the next world, the world to come.

I think sin is not in merely talking about politics, but in falling into pride, leading us to insult or belittle others, to confuse people with their ideas, forgetting that they are NOT their ideas and have the power to change their minds. That is precisely the contrast between Charlie Kirk and his sad and blinded murderer. The one recognized that difference and so visited campuses in that attempt to get people to change their minds and turn towards Christ (that his understandings were Protestant Evangelical makes no difference to us here); the other did not, and so resorted to murder.

But yes, judging others, particularly their status before God because of their opinions, is sin. an attitude of humility towards the things we know we are not quite so sure and will informed about, and more tolerant attitude of “you’ll understand when you’re older“ without communicating that in a condescending manner would help guard us against such judgment.

Servus · 2025-09-21T01:21:25-0500

essentialsaltes said:
She's not invited to the memorial. And mad (and borderline antisemitic) about it.

The Daily Mail tabloid and Instagram posts are the only sources I can find for this. Although on Instagram they're saying that she declined the invitation.

Yarddog · 2025-09-21T01:11:25-0500

Vambram said:
Plenty of facts were found, but the mainstream media and the politicians of the Democratic Party continued to deny the truth of those facts.

Let him provide them with receipts. Those always fall apart.

iarwain · 2025-09-21T01:07:23-0500

I cannot believe so many leftists are trying to say that the shooter was MAGA. His family was, he was not. His family even said that the shooter has been radicalized into left wing politics in recent years. Jimmy Kimmel said the shooter was MAGA. This is a falsehood, one of the biggest I've heard recently. It even got him kicked off the air, at least temporarily. Still, I hear multiple leftists still claiming that Kimmel was right and that the shooter was MAGA. It's a ridiculous assertion on the face of it, but apparently many left wingers want Jimmy Kimmel on the air to tell lies to them so they can live in their echo chamber and odd delusion. It's absolutely bizarre.

iarwain · 2025-09-21T01:01:43-0500

I have been hearing repeatedly from numerous left wingers that Charlie Kirk advocated stoning gays to death, calling it "God's perfect law". Obviously this is referring to Leviticus 20:13, which tells the Israelites to put both men to death if they commit a homosexual act. Leviticus 20 also condemns incest, bestiality, and other sexual immoralities. This was part of the agreement for the Israelites to keep their new land God was giving them.

I have heard others say that particular verse was an "ancient mistranslation", as some people simply cannot accept the idea that God does not advocate for homosexuality. Anyway: We are not living under Levitical law, and I in no way believe for one moment that Charlie Kirk thought that we should be stoning gays to death in 2025 in the United States. But he believed in the Bible, and I don't doubt he called it "God's perfect law".

Of course these sentences sound harsh to modern ears, although I have no problem with them. God wanted His chosen people to be clean and free of immorality, and many Old Testament passages sound pretty rough - especially compared with the gospel, God's perfect solution to the problem of sin.

So this is what I want to ask you: Do you discount Leviticus 20? Do you think that God would never have said this? Do you think Leviticus 20:13 is the result of an "ancient mistranslation"? It seems pretty clear to me. As I've said, I have no problem with these verses, far be it from me to tell God how to conduct HIs business. The penalties are rough, true, but the wages of sin are death. You don't get much rougher than that. God has high standards, and only accepts perfection. Which is why we all need His son.

I'm just asking because it seems there are so many in the modern world who simply can't accept that there could be such violent consequences for breaking God's law. Or that certain things would even be in God's law.

Marilyn C · 2025-09-21T00:49:38-0500

When Jesus ascended to the Father, The Father said -

`Sit at my right hand TILL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES YOUR FOOTSTOOL.` (Ps. 110: 1)

Has that happened yet? Has God the Father brought the nations to His Son for judgment?

MrMoe · 2025-09-21T00:40:40-0500

Larniavc said:
But he said racist things.

Define racism.

bbbbbbb · 2025-09-21T00:30:42-0500

Bro.T said:
Jesus Christ (John 1:1-3, 10-14) 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

He is the one who rested on the Sabbath day and commanded that you do the same. If you really understood the scriptures you would realize that He was the one who became known as Jesus who gave you the Ten Commandments. So not only did He command you to cease from your work on that day He also commanded you to. (Lev.23:3) “Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of rest, an holy convocation;” He said on the Sabbath day that you should also have an holy convocation, which means holy gathering or simply put, go to church. Remember in Acts 7: 38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Let’s take a look and see what Jesus did when he came in the flesh, And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about. And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all. And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. (Luke 4:14-16)

Jesus made it clear that the seventh day was made for mankind. (Mark 2:27-28) (v.27) And he said unto them, The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath: Do we understand that, the Sabbath was made for us, not us for the Sabbath. (v.28) Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath. The Son of man (Jesus) is the Lord God of the seventh day Sabbath (Saturday). (Ex.31:16-17) (v.16) Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. (v.17) It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. You see that the Sabbath day is a sign between God and His people forever. Israel was His people then and whoever chooses to obey Him now are His people.

Got it! From that we take the immense leap from resting and relaxing from six days of toil to engaging in nineteenth-century American Protestant religious activities.

ViaCrucis · 2025-09-21T00:27:11-0500

Aryeh Jay said:
Stick around, it's going to get even better.

Do you think they'll let us make s'mores in the gulags? Or will marshmallow be too woke?

SavedByGrace3 · 2025-09-21T00:21:11-0500

The will of the Father:

John 6:37-40 KJV
37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

ViaCrucis · 2025-09-21T00:20:59-0500

rjs330 said:
Never happened. Another disingenuous moment. Questioning someone's citizenship who is about to be president is neither violent nor is it racist.

More hatred being spewed by the left. No wonder there were TWO assassination attempts on the president with that kind of hate filled rhetoric. And no wonder Kirk was shot.

When you spend so much time accusing the others of being Nazi, authoritarian, racists trying to erase people feom.existance its no wonder people take up arms against their perceived enemies.

Tone it down.

The absolute audacity of this post.

Good night.

Douggg · 2025-09-21T00:11:55-0500

Fisherking said:
Exactly my point, your own admissions proves you to be in error, the bible over and over says he's a Gentile. He comes out of the Fourth Beasts Head amongst the 10 (E.U.) we are given every Greek King In Dan. 11 for ONE REASON, he's a Greek King, AND Danial 8:9 mandates that he has to be born in Greece it gives us the direction in the Four Generals Battle Area via the Syrian Wars that he conquers from, the Northwest (Greece) not Turkey (Seleucus) nor Egypt (Ptolemy). None of the Gentile Beasts were Jews (of course).

Being associated with the EU does not mean that he cannot be a Jew. The current EU Jewish population is 1.3 million.

Daniel 8:9 indicates the direction he comes into the middle east and Israel from. Not that he has to be born in Greece, although he could. There are Jews in Greece. The present Jewish population there is between 4300-6000. Before WWII, the Jewish population there was between 75,000-85,000 until the Nazi's decimated the population.

Fisherking said:
THE FACTS from scriptures tell us who he is, a Greek born Gentile king with Old Assyrian blood.

Again, Greece is the location from where he brings his EU army into the middle east and Israel. Not that he is born there, although he could be.

I think the Assyrian is a separate individual.

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