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MarcusGregor said:

Not really relevant. It doesn't matter what words were used. The incident happened. The law was broken. Who needs to go to prison for war crimes? Thats really the only question that needs to be answered now.

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Completely relevant - it is what started this whole fluff and stuff - if one part is made up - how do you know what else is made up? There are no military experts here - no one here has been in the room when all this was happening, and the left and their propaganda media will not, for any reason at any time, believe anything that comers from the administration.

So they will bloviate for as long as it get's people riled up.

again.

iluvatar5150 said:

They are? Or they're very enthusiastically trying to engage in political theater?

Because if one was so concerned about smuggling and trafficking, one probably shouldn't have pardoned the president of Honduras, Ross Ulbright (the Silk Road guy), or Jean Pinkard.




That's because your perspective on government power is myopic and only focused on the short-term. You've abandoned the notion of rights as principles to uphold and instead only want them wielded in a self-serving manner, to get you what you want.

That's always been the perspective on "rights" of a large faction of the right; it just hasn't been quite so clear until recently.

If you understood rights and laws as principles rather than merely means to a desired near-term outcome, then none of this would be bizarre to you at all.

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Or it's just that I don't have a problem with combatting invading foreign terrorist drug smugglers and human traffickers.

JohnClay said:

Actually there is a hidden version of the game that is more explicit. It quotes Ezekiel 23 including verse 20 which I think could be considered pornographic (if the language is more literal like the NIRV rather than using euphemisms in the translation). It is $1 which limits it to people with access to payment systems and you need certain options enabled.

Well the title is "Brutal Bible Bloodbaths" and the capsule shows a woman being sliced open vertically. If it didn't deliver blood and gore they might feel disappointed. Though on the other hand there is the option to turn off the blood and gore where they have a Y or N choice at the warning screen.
Also I got a negative review from a Christian about the lack of suffering. I don't want to get any more of those negative reviews. I wanted to point out that you aren't the target market.

Well I wanted to have a different approach to regular games about the Bible. I think the passages are shocking so the gameplay reflects that - in a cartoonish way (a bit like South Park). If the graphics were photorealistic it would be more shocking.

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You know the audience you are targeting, and it's not for Christians - those that follow Christ, that is, and love the Lord. Psalm 11:5 expresses that, as well as Psalm 97:10 and Romans 12:9.

notforgotten said:

I think I heard the angels sing upon your arrival. Welcome!

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"I was weary.
Then I saw you, and I was pleased." --Benson Brown

Sounds like socialism...

This is actually something I could get behind, but I'm super duper skeptical of the motivations and possible grifting going on behind the scenes. Like why would Dell contribute 6.5 Billion dollars to this? Also, what funds will the money be invested in? It mentions EFTs too. Like what EFTs? Trump Coin perhaps?

JulieB67 said:

The Greek word is ἐντολή entole -injunction- e.e. an authoritative prescription -commandment, precept.

I'm using the KJV and the link you posted with has commandments in it as well.

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στολή stolḗ, stol-ay'; from G4724; equipment, i.e. (specially), a "stole" or long-fitting gown (as a mark of dignity):—long clothing (garment), (long) robe.

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KJV Translation Count — Total: 9x
The KJV translates Strong's G4749 in the following manner: robe (5x), long clothing (1x), long garment (1x), them (with G848) (1x), long robe (1x).

Most updated translations use stole which translates as robes or garments. One of the reasons why I dont use the KJV.

JulieB67 said:

But you have but a few verses that you believe supports you. Are you supposed to thrown out the rest of the Bible then? I try not to that and try and seek reason within it to come to the right conclusion.

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The Bible interprets itself. There is no tension if you interpret it correctly. In your doctrine there is plenty of tension added that should not be there. I not only have a “few” verses as you call it but also linguistic and ECF evidence.

For instance, your doctrine rests on a bad interpretation of “destroy” which you guys interpret as utterly destroy but that is not the case. The word used to describe how the world was destroyed (apollumi) “being flooded with water,” but the world was still there (2 Peter 3:6). Also, consider how it can be in references to people who are spiritually lost (apollumi) such as the lost sheep of Israel but were still alive (Matt. 10:6; 15:24), and the Prodigal Son who was lost (apollumi), yet still alive (Luke 15:24, 32). So, it can be used to designate the destruction of something that remains.

JulieB67 said:

So you don't believe there's no such thing as death? Again, why use that word if all have life in the end? And why does Christ specifically use the word "second' death?

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There is death for the body in the first death, hence the body decomposes or is turned to ashes in an earthly, physical fire like the ones the destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. The spirit goes back to God that created it (Ecc. 12). During the second death all are resurrected, ie given new bodies, some to eternal life but the wicked to eternal punishment.

Please cite the verse about Christ and the second death that you want to discuss. Thanks.

JulieB67 said:

Yeah, well I think of it as I stopped drinking the kool aid.

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That’s all I can ask.

Postvieww said:

Not everyone agrees with you. In combat when a target is hit and some are missed unless they come out with white flags mop up is usually done.

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False. "White flags" are not necessary in any circumstance, and particularly not at sea. The LOAC is very specific about the sea situation.

Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen

It’s a painted depiction of Ruben’s vision of the crucifixion. …so I’m not sure what you mean about who built buildings in a painting?

As you contemplate the Nativity scene this Advent, let your prayers wander to that realm where the girl of Nazareth now reigns beside her Son. And, with hope, long to hear that Father’s voice who longs to draw you, as he did Mary. As the hymn continues: “All the host of heaven with great desire are longing to look upon you; Come, come, come, and be crowned with heavenly glory. Amen.”

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There are 2 canons of the bible.

Luke 24:44-53 He said to them, “Remember when I was with you before? I said that everything written about me must happen—everything in the law of Moses, the books of the prophets, and the Psalms.” Then Jesus opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.

Law Psalms Prophets - this canon list excludes 1 Enoch, and other OT texts (Jubilees, Test of the 12 patriarchs, Tobit, 1/2 Maccabees, and others). Josephus gave the same canon list around 100 AD, and it was Genesis to Malachi organized into around 24 books. This is the primary canon.
Josephus: Historical Evidence of the Old Testament Canon

Jesus also referenced 1 Enoch, and called it scripture

Jesus talking to the Sadducees who asked about resurrection.

Mathew 22 29 Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

1 Enoch 15. God talking to the angels that left heaven, came down to earth, and bred with woman.

But you originally existed as spirits, living forever,
and not dying for all the generations of eternity;
7 therefore I did not make women among you.’
The spirits of heaven, in heaven is their dwelling;

Jesus tells the people he is talking to they do not know scripture and then proceeds to cite 1 Enoch about how God did not make women for the angels in heaven so he is calling 1 Enoch "scripture", and believed it was written before the flood by Enoch 7th from Adam like it says it was.

So Jesus has 1 Enoch in his canon there, and same with Jude with the "Enoch 7th from Adam prophesied" quote. This is the secondary "hidden" canon. Apocrypha means hidden, and Jesus said

Mathew 11
25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. 26 Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.

Some Christians refer to 1 Enoch or any other text outside the primary (protestant) canon as apocrypha, and for them it means myth / pseudepigrapha . God has hidden those texts from them possibly due to

Romans 1:22
22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,

and

1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God. As the Scriptures say, “He traps the wise in the snare of their own cleverness.”

Yes the secondary canon is hidden but hidden does not mean myth/ pseudepigrapha it just means it is for people that choose to believe the bible wherever it may lead otherwise maybe God thought it would be throwing pearl before swine to reference it in very obvious ways.

This concept of 2 canons in the NT goes back to 2 Esdras (internal date 557-457 BC consistent with 1 Ezra, and same genealogies as 1 Ezra which go back to Aaron son of Levi) where Ezra, and some others rewrite the bible because it was destroyed by the Babylonians

2 Esdras 14
44 So in forty days, ninety-four books were written. 45 It came to pass, when the forty days were fulfilled, that the Most High spoke to me, saying, “The first books that you have written, publish openly, and let the worthy and unworthy read them; 46but keep the last seventy,that you may deliver them to those who are wise among your people; 47 for in them is the spring of understanding, the fountain of wisdom, and the stream of knowledge.” 48 I did so.

The 24 was for the worthy, and unworthy aka everyone- this would of been the now protestant canon from Genesis to Ezra (Malachi, and Nehemiah may not of been written at that time as they came a bit later on in the 400s BC), and the other 70 was 1 Enoch, Jubilees, Test of the 12, Life of Adam, and Eve, Assumption of Moses, Testament of Job, Tobit, Baruch, other ones that still exist today, and some others that would be lost works today. For the NT it would be proto James, pseudo Mathew, gospel of Nicodemus, Didache, History of Joseph the carpenter, and some others. The expanded canon is only for the wise.

2, and 3 Enoch, and book of Jasher are all myths not inspired written after 70 AD (inspired scripture stopped 70 AD based on Daniel 9). 3 Enoch, and Jasher are Jewish fables (1 Titus 14), and 2 Enoch is either Jewish or Samaritan fables.

Jasher says Shem is Melchizadek like the Talmud does in an attempt to discredit Jesus from being a priest in the order of Melchizadek. 2 Enoch mentions the 532 year great cycle which was not discovered until 400s AD. 3 Enoch says It was written by 'rabbi' Ishmael which the Talmud says was 130 AD however the synagogue of satan actually believe it is pseudepigrapha written much later.

I myself do not have a single problem, and nor should any Catholic, in having interreligious dialogues and encounters if they are geared to drawing Muslims (and other non-Christians) to embracing the fullness of who God is as taught by the Catholic Church which He Himself founded (cf. Matthew 16:18-19). Yet what we have had for the last 60 years has been a political dynamic that, by its very nature, is incompatible with the Gospel teaching of Jesus Christ.

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Was it a jet boat?

Not great. Not even good.

NTVNG

Oompa Loompa said:

I rebuke that statement in the name of Jesus. God created them male and female. The only people rejecting them for how they were created are themselves and those that feed their delusion.

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You missed it. I was not talking about transgender people.

I was talking about us normies who don't look like the sex we are.

Keep up.

rocknanchor said:

Should a Church mirror the frequency the Apostle Paul and others exhibited in the book of Acts?

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Tongues, should first of all NOT be pulled from the other gifts which this thread does in part, So,

rocknanchor said:

''Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.”

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rjs330 said:

I dont think its unfortunate at all. Things have changed. People are realizing what its doing to America and the problems it is causing.

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Indeed, times have changed. Many Cubans who left Cuba seeking a better life and future also brought their own Cuban culture with them; some continued to practice anti-non-Cuban sentiment and held views against Hispanics and Latinos that they had while in Cuba. While they immigrated to America illegally and brought their own culture, yet now demonize others for doing the same.

As we recently celebrated the Solemnity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the King of the Universe, we ought to ask ourselves why we believe that Christ is truly our king. Then we must ask ourselves if we really believe it. If we do not examine these reasons and our belief in them, we will soon become disappointed in Him because we will be expecting from Him things that He does not intend to do in our lives.

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Apparently he got his job back. How did that happen? One reader commented, "A new bill allowing eligible non-U.S. citizens in Illinois to become police officers was signed into law by Governor J. B. Pritzker, who is sending the message: Allow our country to descend further into a Leftist dystopia."

Maybe that explains it. Nothing surprises me anymore.

No. Inspired scripture stopped 70 AD (Daniel 9 said vision, and prophecy would stop 70 AD), and they have texts in their canon that are written after 70 AD like pseudo Josephus. The most important inspired apocrypha not pseudepigrapha texts for the wise only are 1 Enoch, 1/2 Maccabees, Assumption of Moses, Life of Adam, and Eve. For the NT it is gospel of Nicodemus, History of Joseph the Carpenter, Proto James.

timothyu said:

That's right, in the same way we need to admit our backwards ways and admit God's will is better than ours and we should seek to serve Him rather that ourselves and the adversarial world we have built.atc

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It seems that says what I said, speaking about repentance, it includes desire to do things differently with God's way in that.

BelieveItOarKnot said:

Honesty comes from God

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It might, and more than apart from God, but repentance is needed in faith to come to God as possible through Jesus.

The Catholic position varies between "traditional" and "modern" views, with the modern view estimating her betrothal when she was about 16, with Joseph still a relatively young man with some years left to support his wife and children (if he had any).

The ages of Joseph and Mary when Jesus was born are not specified in the Bible, and Catholic estimates vary between traditional views and modern scholarly interpretation.

This is an AI response -

Mary's Age

Catholic tradition and historical scholarship offer a range of possibilities for Mary's age, with most estimates placing her as a teenager:

• Traditional View: The non-canonical 2nd-century text, the Protoevangelium of James, which influenced early Christian thought, suggests Mary was around 12 years old when she was betrothed to Joseph and about 14 to 16 years old when Jesus was born.
• Scholarly Estimates: Most modern historians and biblical scholars estimate Mary was likely between 15 and 16 years old at Jesus' birth, which was a common age for Jewish girls in the first century to be married.

Joseph's Age

Estimates for Joseph's age show a much wider range, with differing traditions:

• Traditional View (Older Joseph): To support the doctrine of Mary's perpetual virginity, an ancient tradition, also found in the Protoevangelium of James, depicts Joseph as a much older man, an elderly widower, possibly in his 80s or 90s, who had children from a previous marriage. This view explains the mention of Jesus' "brothers and sisters" in the Gospels as Joseph's step-children. This is a common depiction in traditional Christian art.
• Modern Scholarly View (Younger Joseph): Many modern biblical scholars and some Catholic theologians argue it is more likely Joseph was a young man, probably in his late teens or early 20s. The view is supported by the fact that he was a carpenter (a physically demanding trade), was able to travel long distances with his new family, and presumably died before Jesus began his public ministry, all of which would have been difficult for a man in his 80s or 90s.

Ultimately, the Catholic Church has no official dogma on their precise ages; what matters theologically is their obedience to God's will and their role as the earthly parents of Jesus.

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We don't know either Mary's or Joseph's age, and any estimate is an educated guess at best.