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Judge dismisses James Comey and Letitia James cases, finding prosecutor's appointment invalid

I believe i misstated what I meant. You @A2SG helped me figure that out --by your attempt to point out the law that Big Tish was empowered by, and not focus on the veracious actions by Trump that wrongly were called fraud by Big Tish.
What was wrong about it? Trump committed fraud, James proved that in a court of law by a preponderance of the evidence.

New York hates Trump so all of NY will agree with the lawfare result.
Um, in 2016, 2.8 million NY residents voted for Trump. In 2020, 3.25 million and in 2024, 3.5 million. Granted, more voted for his opponent in each election, but it can't be said that "all of NY" hates Trump. A lot voted for him.

Perhaps it is what Trump did that has not been treated as a crime, in 100+ years.
Sorry, but fraud has absolutely been treated as a crime for a lot longer than a hundred years.

-- A2SG, especially in NY.....
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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

People choose what is irrelevant to them.

Lack of understanding, being fulfilled doesn't mean it is not still operating.
Did not Christ choose to come through the lineage of Abraham? Is it not the lineage of Abraham that is a blessing to All Nations through Christ his lineage even till now and his return.
You mean, In your seed shall all nations be blessed, meaning one, and not many? The seed which was prophecied from the beginning?
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There are Some People Disturbing You

“I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed! For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.” (Galatians 1:6-10 NASB1995)

The apostle Paul, anointed by the Holy Spirit, penned these words to the church in Galatia. He was deeply concerned that so many of them were deserting the gospel of their salvation, and were accepting a different gospel which was not the gospel of Christ. For they were listening to the Judaizers of their day who were convincing them that they had to be more like Jews, and that they had to follow some of the Old Covenant liturgical, ceremonial, circumcision, dietary and Sabbath laws, thus adding on to the gospel.

And we have Judaizers yet today who are trying to convince Christians that they need to be more like Jews, and that they need to adhere to some of the Old Covenant laws and Jewish customs and rituals, and that it will enhance their relationship with God. And some of them (or many of them) are painting the Jewish nation as God’s chosen people still in this generation, even though the Scriptures deny that notion, and they teach that all who reject Jesus Christ are the antichrist, and not part of God’s holy nation.

There is a massive movement in the USA today to convince Christians that they are somehow inferior to the Jews and that they should treat the Jewish people almost like they are gods, in a worshipful kind of way, to where they raise them up above all other people, and they believe that they are to give them their undying loyalty, devotion, and support, praying for God’s blessings upon them, and even opposing all who do not support them. But that is antibiblical, for all who do not believe in Jesus Christ are not of God.

And the Scriptures make it clear that just because someone is physically descended from Israel, and they are physical offspring of Abraham, it does not automatically make them children of God. For all who reject Jesus Christ reject God – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit – the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. So all Jews who reject Christ reject the God of their ancestors in favor of the gods of this world. And so they are not the children of promise, the promise given to Abraham and to his seed, Jesus Christ (Galatians 3:16).

[Genesis 17:7-9; Genesis 18:19; John 8:18-19,38-47; Romans 2:28-29; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 9:4-8,25-28; Romans 11:1-36; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 3:16,26-29; Galatians 4:22-31; Ephesians 2:11-22; Ephesians 3:1-6; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-16; Hebrews 8:6-13;1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 2:22; Jude 1:5; Revelation 2:9; Revelation 3:9]

But this isn’t just about Jew worship and treating the Jewish nation as though they are somehow superior to the rest of us, even though, as a nation, they are the antichrist. This is about those who alter and distort the gospel of our salvation which was taught by Jesus and by his New Testament apostles, and in order to deceive the people into following Satan’s lies. For the devil is behind all of this worship of a false god and the false gospels being taught in place of the gospel taught by Jesus and by his apostles.

For Satan wants people believing that their “faith” in Jesus Christ, by lip service only, secures them heaven as their eternal destiny, and forgiveness of all sins, none of which can be taken away from them, even if they totally ignore Jesus Christ and his teachings, and so they continue in deliberate and habitual sin against God and in walks of disobedience to his commands. But Jesus and his New Testament apostles taught the opposite of that. They taught that how we live matters as to where we will spend eternity.

For Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

For by God-gifted faith in Jesus Christ, which is not of our own doing, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as slaves to righteousness in walks of obedience to God’s commands. We are no longer to permit sin to reign in our mortal bodies to make us obey its desires. For if sin is what we obey, it results in death. But if obedience to God is what we obey, it results in sanctification, and its end is eternal life with God (see Romans 6:1-23).

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

So, don’t be fooled by Satan’s lies. Read all these Scriptures noted above. Read them in their full and correct biblical context. And let the Holy Spirit guide you into all truth. And do not give your worship and undying devotion to any human being or people group, but give all your worship and devotion to God alone, to Jesus Christ who is the one who gave his life up for us on that cross so that, by God-persuaded faith in him, we will now die to sin and obey our Lord and his commands in practice, and have eternal life with God.

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Mary, did you know that your baby boy
Would one day walk on water?
Mary, did you know that your baby boy
Would save our sons and daughters?
Did you know that your baby boy
Has come to make you new?
This child that you delivered, will soon deliver you

Mary, did you know that your baby boy
Is Lord of all creation?
Mary, did you know that your baby boy
Would one day rule the nations?
Did you know that your baby boy
Is heaven's perfect Lamb?
That sleeping child you're
Holding is the great, I Am

Mary, did you know?

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There are Some People Disturbing You
An Original Work / December 15, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Citizens are fed up with Dem-invited migrants that have disdain for US law and culture

That is your opinion about Scripture and you are welcome to it. Other Christians' mileage may vary. They have opinions, too, just as good as yours.
No they aren't. Mine are correct where it comes to political usage of scripture for personal political beliefs. Liberal and Conservative Christains are both guilty of it. Jesus didn't come to tell us how government should run and what laws should be passed. He came to provide a way of salvation for those who believe. His kingdom is not of this world. And telling people they should only follow certain portions of Christ's teachings and ignore the rest and turn them into a pet political crusade is a fools errand.
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Concerns About the Foundations of the Gentile Christian Movement in Acts 15

Galations 5 clearly states that the we are no longer under the law so why is there always this argument about the law?

Galatians chapter 5 KJV (King James Version)

Either we believe Paul or we don't.

We can't have things both ways.

This is why it's so hard for anyone to know what the right 'translation' or 'interpretation' is because our own people can't come to an agreement. I truly don't believe following Jesus should be this hard!!! Who has made it this complex and why?
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How Long have Humans Lived on Earth?

Personally I feel that God created man a few hundred thousand years ago.

I believe that the fruit of the tree of Life gave man long life, if not a form of immortality. Now the church will say or has said man never ate the fruit of the tree of Life. That is not scriptural the Bible never says that man did or didn't eat.

The first commandment that God gave man was not to eat from the tree of knowledge but he could eat of every other tree and the tree of knowledge was centered in the garden. So why would man and his offspring not eat from the tree of life?

I believe Adam and Eve had many, many children before their sin. And the Bible names only the children born after the seduction and sin of Adam and Eve. Though the Bible does not mention children born before Cain and Abel. And if you look at the Bible you find the Bible is basically life after sin.

The Bible does speak about the people who were around, who were told not to kill Cain. Where did those people come from? Since the Bible does not mention and the church teaches that Adam and Eve only had two sons before Cain slew Abel. Where did they come from? What are the assumptions of the church?

Nothing is said of Adam and Eve having daughters, only the two sons, but the church will assume that they did because it agrees with their theology, yet toss out / deny other assumptions. Daughters were not mentioned until Genesis 6.

Who named the Land of Nod? Why is it called The Land of Nod? In those days, lands / tribes / cities were named after their founders. Why does the bible tell us Cain knew his wife after he went to Land of Nod. Is that saying Cain did not know his wife while he was in Eden, or they did not have children while they were in Eden? Or is it telling us Cain found a wife in the Land of Nod? What is taught is Assumptions again, views passed down through the centuries.

The history of man; scientifically, shows man has been here quite a while. So in order to continue to support 6,000 year old Earth as fact, the church has to reject it.

Were the translators correct with their usage (of the definition) of the Hebrew word yom / Yome? The word has several different meanings can be used quite a few different ways, not necessarily a literal 24 hour span, but can be used to said a period in time, a span of time, a space and time. godrules.net/library/strongs2a/heb3117.htm https://share.google/eAkAAbe8rNoDC8upu

Now here's a kicker :::: God did not create the literal 24-hour day until he put the sun and moon in place - Genesis 1:14. Now shouldn't that be telling us the days spoken of before Genesis 1:14 is not speaking of a literal 24-hour day but is speaking more like a day to the Lord is as a thousand years and A thousand years is as a day. Before God put the sun and moon in place there was no time table to use as a literal 24-hour day point, considering the Sun and Moon is to measure seasons, days, years.

There are churches that are beginning to believe the Earth is older than 6000 years. But most churches still adhere to man being here for 6,000 years using genealogies of those written in Scripture. Which maybe fairly close according to those names of descendants written. From what I can see it has been an estimated 6,000 years / a bit more, since the fall of Adam, not his creation.
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The Globe

The globe is not all bad it's just a sphere that has been over inflated & set in motion to orbit our golden sun & wonders lonely as a cloud through dark murky fields of blackness through the infinity of space.

And God said 'Let there be light'.

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To believe or not to believe that is the question.
"Overinflated": No. You make it sound like balloon that's about to pop because it has had too much air forced into it.

"Wonders lonely as a cloud": The earth doesn't wonder anything. Even assuming you meant "wanders", that is wrong. Nobody to my knowledge believes that the earth is wandering " through dark murky fields of blackness through the infinity of space." It is orbiting the sun in a fixed orbit.

I agree with, and believe, your bible quote: And God said 'Let there be light'. But that was before the sun was created.
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Zions New Children

More pretentious tripe.
Why are you saying that God using a star to guide the Magi and appearing to Saul as a bright light from heaven, is pretentious tripe?
When many Prophesies say the sun will be darkened on the Day the Lord sends His fiery wrath, a perfectly feasible occurrence; then why deny it?
Who said I was denying it?
Wouldn't the sun being darkened be a celestial sign?
I was referring to the 24th Day of Kislev, mentioned 3 times by Haggai. Which was the 14th December 2025.
It is a significant day in history and yet to happen. Seems we have got away with it once again.
It's a significant day in history that has already happened many times. It is not "yet to happen", it happens once a year.
IF something is going to happen on that day in the future (big "if") then it hasn't yet been fulfilled. It's not about us "getting away with" anything.
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Shootings at Bondi Beach

Common sense.

They were two big men of middle eastern appearance, with Moslem style beards, massacring people on a Jewish festival, hot on the heels of the Israel-Hamas conflict with widespread death and destruction in Palestine, just over ten years from the Lindt Cafe Siege on the 15-16 December 2014, while Sydney tends to be the centre of anti-Jewish sentiment with a lot of Middle Easterners in the western suburbs.

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Not a lot of respect for men

Thanks, I've read most if not all of the common arguments made in the Egalitarian/Complimentarian/Patriarchy debate - rarely do I encounter something new. And the infamous but decisive 'source' word topic hasn't even been discussed in-depth in this thread yet. But just because I've studied and weighed those 'modern' arguments with some confidence I can say these don't convince me - not because I'm simply clutching to tradition or don't like change, but because the classical Patriarchal view overall fits the big picture much better and make Torah, Yeshua, Paul and Peter and the history of the Church in those two thousands years align well ...

The very fact that only secular instigated feminism triggered the re-interpretation and development of alternative theories to 'explain away' Paul's and Peter's statements as time or culturally localised instructions makes it suspicious .. because the motive is not to get a more honest/better understanding of scripture, but to align our Bible interpretation with the pressures and wishes of modern secular society.

Absolutely - I'm pretty sure I'm wrong about many things; I just don't know which ones - prayerfully I read and contemplate. I avoid turning it into a battle field, what still easily happens as it is such an emotionally charged subject.

Without Paul we would struggle to properly understand many aspects of Christianity; e.g. without Paul's letters we would not really know why Yeshua had to die on the cross (as that is not really addressed in the Gospels theologically). Paul's and Peter's instructions on the role of women in marriage and churches are not vague at all - they're quite clear, and that's precisely the reason why these instructions were not controversial or heavily debated in Christian history (until the 1960's) .. everyone knew with some confidence what it meant. It's just that since the 1960's modern society does not like those instructions because the underlying framework and view on the role of husband and wife is incompatible with modern Western (and certainly woke) thinking.

Connecting the dots between Torah, Yeshua, Paul and Peter .. and observing the theological and cross-cultural arguments made by these, the position that the instructions on this matter are just accidentally local to time and culture without wider universal implications feels artificially forced and unlikely.


About 70-80% of churches in Western countries have moved from the Patriarchal to the Egalitarian view I estimate - your church would be one of those. In those churches speakers would have to generalise or skip entire sections of the NT, or transform any gender-specific instruction into a unisex one ... leaving the worldview and theological framework of the NT writers - and the underlying nuance is lost.

Maybe an interesting question would be: why is it the classical Patriarchal view - the headship of the husband in marriage, or the headship of God over Christ causes discomfort among many believers in Western nations these days? Causes the headship of Christ over man(kind) the same anxiety? Modern theologians might even say that view is wrong altogether universally, but then the problem presents itself how God could have endorsed/guided this view in the NT in the 1st century even in that local culture.

Be blessed .. !

PS: God is a God of order and everywhere in society authority structures are in place to let everything operate optimally. Governments have Presidents or Prime Ministers, companies have CEO's, schools have Principals, air planes have Captains, buses have drivers, armies have Generals ... We all recognise and accept the associated authority of these roles; and no one argues to abolish them because incidental abuse of that authority may occur. But somehow in marriage (a team of two) the Biblically prescribed authority structure is bad since the feminist wave? That should make us think ..
I really appreciate your continued engagement.

I can't speak for everyone and can only speak for myself so what I'll say is I am not confident in anyone's translation, interpretation etc of the bible. The very fact that it has to be translated at all leaves many things too open. The only thing I can do is pray that God steps in wherever I'm being mislead by myself or others.

If Paul meant what he said to be generalized, I completely understand that but I still won't do it for the reasons I mentioned before. God will either help me with that or judge me for it, but I'm open to whatever His will is, either way.

Whilst I felt emotional from being verbally disrespected by my father, the ongoing issue with my parents and how to explain this all to my daughter according to Paul, I don't feel emotional or impassioned about this subject, one way or the other, because I'm not an emotional person. I'm usually compared to Spok from Star Trek by most people. I don't overthink it to know if it's an insult, neutral or a compliment to be viewed this way. Sometimes, things are just what they are!

Have a great day x
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State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

It doesn't, as I explained in this response to you back in October.
Yes it does. Your explanation is incorrect.
Those practices predate Islam and occur in non-Islamic cultures as well.
Yes some do. But it IS STILL an Islamic practice. As you showed in your experience Islamism is radical and teaches subjugation of women.
tribal traditions, not the teachings of Islam, that led to their deaths
Tribal traditions based on Islamist thought and instruction.
Under tribal - not religious - tradition, marriages are carefully arranged by elders. Marrying without permission is considered an affront to the honour of the tribe.
They are simply trying to downplay the religious aspect of it, by denying things that are occurring because of Islamist teaching. Honor killings are a part of Islam.
Honor killings predate Islam and occur in Pakistani Christian families as well.
Honor killings are part of Islam.
As you can see from those verses, Muslims can be friends with those who do not fight against them or mock them.
All those things are from the Quran. Did yoi notice the war like stance in all of it? These things are all used by Islamists to be violent and antagonistic to non-believers. According to the Quran when we speak out against the call to prayer in yhe middle of American towns, disturbing the peace of those who don't and aren't interested in their religion, they consider us enemies.

And we all know what they do to their enemies.

I've heard enough of this nonsense regarding a clearly authoritarian religion that seeks to take over places with violence or by political means in the NAME of their false religion. And those who have come out of this religion have told us what really goes on. You should these things. They are authorized to do whatever it takes to obtain power. And that is what they are doing.
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Learning poetry.

I do freestyle poems that aren't poems. I'm making this thread just to have a collection of my journey to actually knowing what I'm doing.

Apostolic Succession

The Cross of God has the Scripture
To have the Holiness explained
A Blessing of the Crucifix
To listen and Love within
The Godly and Ordained
This Beautiful love of Life
Spoken in the time of Christ

Christ Jesus praise

As You encompass Light
Your Skies They enlighten my love of Life
This journey brightly put as the Horizon to my Soul
Our Hero is the Prominence of our Whole
For our Faith and Belief in Christ
We have come to live by Life

Time's running out


How long do we belong?
To a world of the passing?
Our belongings rot
Our earthly desires fade
No longer alive
Will come to this day
And when our ego is on fire
What should we say?
The curtain has closed

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