Mercy Shown said:

Are you depending on your “obedience” to save you? If so, do believe you have obeyed enough to merit God’s salvation?

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You are adding words that I have never said. I am always cautioned by people who do this.

You will not find in any of my posts that I am depending on my obedience to save me. No one can obey God without the help if the Holy Spirit John14:15-18 but not one is saved in their sins Heb10:26–30. If we are still holding on to still and heading the call of the Holy Spirit Heb3:7-19 and have hardened our heart where we are not subject to the law of God - Rom8:7-8 its not a good position to be in come judgement day

Mercy Shown said:

The AI summery of Steps To Christ is not a substitute for reading it.

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Of course, but I knew what you were saying was in error, so due to time, I had Chat summarize it.

Mercy Shown said:

I think you under the misconception that righteousness by faith does away with the law.

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Not anything said by me, another assumption And they know what they say about that.

Mercy Shown said:

That is not the case. It establishes the law.

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Of course, the notion we can disobey God and thats an example of faith is not found in our Bibles. So no one should be teaching we do not have to keep God’s commandments- and let Him be the one to sort out who is doing it for the right reason because He only taught if you love Me, keep My commandments, never once taught if we love Him disobey Him.

Why is no one freaking out about our Muslim Administrator of the Centers of Medicare and Medicaid Services?

jonojim1337 said:

So what?

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Historical context. The mosaic law was given 430 years after Abraham.

“Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as one would in referring to many, but rather as in referring to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ. What I am saying is this: the Law, which came 430 years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬-‭17‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

jonojim1337 said:

That’s just wrong and the authority of Caesar does not rely on the number of denari in circulation.

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I see no point with arguing with insane posts.



One cannot steal from Caesar what does not belong to him, and what belongs to him is denarii. One cannot steal nonexistent denarii from a Caesar who does not exist. One cannot be penalized for flaunting the authority of a nonexistent government.

Christ, not Caesar, is Lord, and He will judge the living and the dead.

As Ye might say, "MAGA doesn't care about deaf people."

eleos1954 said:

Angels were not given the capability to procreate ... if they were what stopped or is stopping them from doing it now? No such thing as a angel/human hybrid.

Genesis 6

1Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

It states here they were MEN (mankind) men/man not angels.

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The giants were mighty men not the fallen angels that became flesh, and bred with women. 1 Enoch written before Noahs flood is the gold standard if it goes against 1 Enoch like Cave of tresures, and Augustine did it is wrong.

You've got Revelation 6 all wrong.
Nerfing this to a mere CME is appalling!
Read. In. CONTEXT!

What is happening here? What is the question - the concern of the passage?

Revelation 6


The concern is justice.
It's not just Babylon, or Rome, or some modern nation (in the never ending futurist game of "pin-the-tail on the anti-Christ.")
It's universal.
It's judging the 'inhabitants of the whole earth.'



This is the same Apocalyptic Symbolism for the challenging of worldly kingdoms and authorities - but escalated to a whole new scale - with stars falling, the heavens receding, and mountains and islands being moved!



Note that they are NOT saying "Oh no - look what the sun has done!"
They're saying, "Oh no - GOD is here!"

Your Sci-Fi reading of this THEOLOGICAL passage may as well cut half the verses out of it, given the way your Hollywood reading nerfs it so much!

HARK! said:

I've said my piece. You've said yours. Unless you have any credible evidence to add to the discussion; I'll leave discernment, on what has been presented, up to the readers.

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Let the record show that HARK failed to show how two numbers can fail to be part of the ten- year average for the 30s as reported on the chart.

1Tonne said:

Scripture describes this as a conscious, ongoing judgment, not mere annihilation.

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It seems you do. I grew up on a farm and have yet to see tares survive a fire. If scripture would have meant writhing while toasted in an oven, it would have said so. What the adversarial spirit has corrupted and remained unrepentant shall be destroyed.

I expanded the chart to include the two witnesses activities down at the bottom. If you study this chart, you will have great overview of what is going to take place during the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27.

Postvieww said:

We are not yet living as a world in Christs kingdom. It was God himself that separated the nations and created the frame work for different cultures. It is nonsense to try define this presently fallen world by trying to use kingdom principles that Christ himself has not yet implemented on this entire planet.

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Is it non-sense to follow the kingdom principles as articulated by Jesus?

A few false images that have worked their way into the church.

mindlight said:

I am not an atheist and shallow and broken spirituality is the root cause of Europe's problems. We are materially rich but hollow shells because of the crisis of faith that has emptied out the heart of Europe and denuded it of all power.

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Which problems are these? I live in the UK and I don’t see anything different. Exactly what problems are you referring to?

All for Jesus

You may be right, but even the Jerusalem Post identified him as Moslem. Whether they did their own research, or merely quoted others remains to be seen.

Under His wings (Psalm 91:4)

DaisyDay said:

People are saying that it's in the offing. Will the Jews be forced to choose or will they be given an exception?

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How? their citizenship is a religious practice. We can't demand Jew's to not circumcise their males. Nor to circumcise a proselyte?

PloverWing said:

I just finished watching "Wake Up Dead Man", the third movie in the Knives Out series. It's a complicated murder mystery, which I won't spoil by discussing any plot details here. But what caught my attention most about the movie is that, in the character of Father Jud (a Catholic priest), we see one of the most accurate portrayals of the Christian faith at its best that I've ever seen on screen.

Most often, movies don't even address religion. If they do, it's often generically bland; or, worse, the religious dialogue is clumsy, and the religious characters are flat caricatures. Only rarely have I seen Christian characters portrayed with a faith that resembles my own and dialogue that sounds like Christians I know in real life. This is one of those rare movies. I recommend it, for that reason.

Also, it's a good murder mystery.

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Apart from the entertaining WHODUNIT aspect .. because the crime scene is a Church community, the movie made me think about what a church fellowship should look like, how to avoid the obvious caricatures of bad leadership, dysfunctional servitude, or even unhealthy motives to be there in the first place. It could be a therapeutic experience for any church attendant.

Most of the characters seemed to be cultural/traditional church-goers stuck in a religious system not encouraging growth. I found it encouraging the main character was the good guy honestly trying to serve God despite his past failures and current weaknesses.

The writer/director grew up in an Evangelical environment; it seems the movie has strong autobiographical elements - yet in the end the movie doesn't bash faith - it criticises what's unhealthy in the way its practised. So it leaves believing viewers with the challenge: 'how not to become that church' ..

HARK! said:

More waste and fraud:

The $23 Trillion Property Scam That Will Bankrupt America - Vexler

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Indictments to come?

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Nope, No major player was indicted over the GFC

Dave... said:

Shouldn't all Christians be fundamentalist?

These days the powers that be seem to be pretty good at redefining terms and words to advance their cause. This is how I see it.

There was an influx of liberalism being injected into the Christian churches at the turn of the century, that being the eighteen hundreds into the nineteen hundreds. So the dry theologians all got together and created a fundamental set of doctrines to protect against the false teachings that were encroaching. These were the fundamental set of doctrines that were considered essential doctrines. As we see today, they had good reason to be concerned.

I believe in the fundamental doctrines. I'm a Christian fundamentalist.

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Not everyone's use of the term, 'fundamentalist', has to do with the fundamentals, but rather, someone who insists on what they consider the fundamentals. For example, covenant theology was around long before dispensationalism, yet, in my experience, it is the dispensationalists that are often (and proudly, some times) referred to as fundamentalists.

BobRyan said:

AI goes to post NT traditions and non Bible sources to try and figure that one out.

Interesting help from the Catholic Church explains why AI can not find any commands for Sunday keeping in the actual New Testament.

The Faith Explained (an RC commentary on the Baltimore catechism post Vatican ii) states on Page 242 that
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"we know that in the O.T it was the seventh day of the week - the Sabbath day - which was observed as the Lord's day. that was the law as God gave it...'remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.. the early Christian church determined as the Lord's day the first day of the week. That the church had the right to make such a law is evident...

changing the Lord's day to Sunday was in the power of the church since "in the gospels ..Jesus confers upon his church the power to make laws in his name".


page 243

"nothing is said in the bible about the change of the Lord's day From Saturday to Sunday. We know of the change only from the tradition of the Church - a fact handed down to us...that is why we find so illogical the attitude of many Non-Catholics, who say that they will believe nothing unless they can find it in the bible and Yet will continue to keep Sunday as the Lord's day on the say-so of the Catholic church"

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I agree

Because a scripture says on the first day of the week Paul met and prayed / preached, does not mean he did this every first day of the week.

And besides Christians were persecuted by the Romans, they were persecuted by the Jews and they met often whenever they could, in any house they could.

Paul kept the Sabbath / as it is written, "as was his custom"
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Constantine change the day of rest / and worship from the seventh day to the first day. And their Church accepted it.

Sunday | Rest, Worship, Reflection | Britannica Sunday | Rest, Worship, Reflection | Britannica

Brightfame52 said:

Christ part is to give, cause repentance

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Paul said in (Gal. 6 (v.3) For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. (v.4) But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

The book says let every man prove his own work, and if your work is good then you will rejoice in it.

(v.5) For every man shall bear his own burden. That’s right; every man must bear his own burden. You mean you thought that all you had to do was confess the name of Jesus and that was it? Brothers and sisters you must work to get salvation. (v.7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. God is not to be played with. Whatsoever you plant, that’s what you are going to reap. Be it good works unto eternal life, or evil works unto eternal damnation. The choice is yours, and your works belong to you.

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DaisyDay said:

I don't see how that is possible being as we only have approximately 20M undocumented aliens total, accumulated. Where in the world do you get your figures?

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You need to remember that the Biden administration insisted that the border was safe, secure, and closed, one of the biggest government hoaxes in American history. Some, such as Victor Davis Hanson, would put the number at the lower end of the range I provided, 10-12 million while others at the higher or even higher. We really don't know how many totally evaded detection but it is reasonable to assume that those are not people likely to fill out surveys. I understand the effort to downplay the numbers, be aware that much of it comes from the same people who were participants in the Biden administration hoax.