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The fascinating reformed theology paradox of Hebrew 6:4-6

As Scripture likewise shows that faith is a gift (Php 1:29, 2 Pe 1:1, Ac 13:48, 18:27, Ro 12:3) which God works in you, without which gift working in you no one can believe, and with which gift working in you is necessarily to believe.
Yes, but a gift can be rejected.

1. Faith is linked to God’s universal offer

  • Romans 12:3 – “…God has dealt to every man the measure of faith.”
    This doesn’t mean everyone uses it in the same way, but that the capacity to believe has been given universally.
  • Hebrews 11:6 – God “rewards those who diligently seek Him.” That implies everyone has the ability to respond — seeking or not seeking is the choice.

2. Faith comes by hearing God’s word, and the word goes out to all

  • Romans 10:17 – “Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
  • Just a few verses earlier: Romans 10:18 – Paul says the message “has gone out to all the earth.”
  • So, the means to produce faith (God’s word) is available to all people.

3. God calls all people to believe

  • Acts 17:30 – God “commands all people everywhere to repent.”
  • If only a few had the ability to respond, this call would be meaningless.
  • John 1:9 – Christ is “the true Light, which gives light to every man coming into the world.” That light is the spark that makes faith possible for everyone.

4. Some accept, some reject

  • Mark 6:6 – Jesus “marveled at their unbelief” in Nazareth. He could only marvel if they had the real opportunity to believe.
  • Luke 8:12–15 (parable of the sower) – Everyone hears the word, but the difference is in the soil (the heart’s response). The potential for faith is there for all.

5. Faith is a gift — but a gift meant for all

  • Ephesians 2:8–9 – “By grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God.”
    → Salvation (by grace through faith) is the gift — and since grace has appeared to all (Titus 2:11), the capacity for faith is likewise available to all.
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5 officers shot, 3 fatally, while serving warrant at farm in Pennsylvania: Officials -- shooter dead

Man accused of stalking ex-girlfriend fired upon Pennsylvania law enforcement officers in 'murderous rampage': DA

A man accused of stalking his ex-girlfriend fired upon multiple law enforcement officers who went to the woman's home in southern Pennsylvania on Wednesday, killing three and wounding two others in what officials called a "murderous rampage."

The law enforcement officers had gone to the home in rural North Codorus Township on Wednesday afternoon amid a domestic violence investigation, Barker said. An arrest warrant had been issued for the shooter, identified as 24-year-old Matthew Ruth of Hanover, after his ex-girlfriend reported he had been peering into the home the night before while armed with a rifle, the district attorney said.

The ex-girlfriend and her mother "went somewhere else for their safety" and were not at the home at the time of the shooting,

A Labrador belonging to Ruth's ex-girlfriend was also found dead in the basement of the home, killed by Ruth, Barker said.
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On the topic of suffering...

So if local State and Federal judges are not learned within a polytheistic way(s)' of living, then that judge should not excuse religious freedom as an excuse for practicing their unique religion. It could very well be within a unique religion to sacrifice life; either of animal or human.
Because even Judges have personal religious rights/rites.



And so to love one another statement with the do not judge statement....

Hmm. What about love your family and judge righteously to your family instead?
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Whatever is Right, Whatever is Pure..

“Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. The things you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you.” (Philippians 4:4-7 NASB1995)

We live in a day and age, at least here in the USA, we do, when so many compromises are being made to truth and to righteousness, and to the gospel of Christ and of our salvation, and to morality and to obedience and to holy living. The gospel message is being reduced to a profession of faith only, where morality may or may not be being taught, and where the subject of obedience to God is either discouraged altogether or it is being presented as recommended, but as optional, and not conditional to our salvation.

“But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, slanderers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to a form of godliness although they have denied its power; avoid such people as these.” (2 Timothy 3:1-5 NASB)

Sadly, this is where we are as a society, and it is where so much of today’s “church” is, as well. The gospel is being diluted in order to appease human flesh and to attract the ungodly of the world to these secularized “church” gatherings. Obedience has now largely become a bad word, and it is being associated with legalism, with harshness, and with being judgmental. And deliberate and habitual sin is now being tolerated and pacified in the name of God’s grace. But God’s grace does not tolerate and pacify habitual sin.

The grace of God, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives while we wait for Jesus’ return. For Christ “gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.” “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.” (See Titus 2:11-14; Ephesians 2:8-10)

Those who are speaking the truth of the gospel of Christ, in its fulness, are largely being marginalized, rejected, rebuked, ignored, falsely accused of wrong, and called legalists and teachers of works salvation. And all this while those who teach the “gospel light” are being honored, praised, lifted up, and followed by large crowds of people. For the “gospel light” people do not insist on obedience to God and death to sin as God’s requirements for what it means to believe in Jesus and to receive him as Lord/Master of our lives.

But Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

For by God-gifted faith in Jesus Christ, which is not of our own doing, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as slaves to righteousness in walks of obedience to God’s commands. We are no longer to permit sin to reign in our mortal bodies to make us obey its desires. For if sin is what we obey, it results in death. But if obedience to God is what we obey, it results in sanctification, and its end is eternal life with God (see Romans 6:1-23).

So, please know and believe the truth of the gospel as taught by Jesus and by his New Testament apostles, taught in the correct biblical context, and not out of context. Many lies are being spread in the name of Christ and of his gospel by teaching Scriptures out of context and making them say what they do not say if taught in the correct biblical context. Context is critical to correct biblical interpretation and to understanding and believing the truth of God’s word. And make obedience to God and death to sin your daily practice.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 1:12-13; John 6:44; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:23-31; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10]

For Our Nation

An Original Work / September 11, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
Recording Via Gerry Peters, music producer and arranger


Bombs are bursting. Night is falling.
Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.
Trust Him with your life today.
Make Him your Lord and your Savior.
Turn from your sin. Follow Jesus.
He will forgive you of your sin;
Cleanse your heart, made new within.

Men betraying: Our trust fraying.
On our knees to God we’re praying,
Seeking God to give us answers
That are only found in Him.
God is sovereign over all things.
Nothing from His mind escaping.
He has all things under His command,
And will work all for good.

Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.

Men deceiving: We’re believing
In our Lord, and interceding
For our nation and its people
To obey their God today.
He is our hope for our future.
For our wounds He offers suture.
He is all we need for this life.
Trust Him with your life today.

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Whatever is Right, Whatever is Pure..
An Original Work / September 18, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Why we Christians still have to struggle with sins?

When the bible speaks of laws we no longer have to keep, it is speaking of the animal sacrificial laws and Priesthood laws. These animal sacrificial laws were a school master pointing us to the fact that Jesus would be sacrificed for our sins. Since Jesus died we are no longer under a school master, (required to offer up bulls and goats for our sins).



Now we must believe (have faith) Jesus died for us (Hebrews 10:4,9-10) 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 9 then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

This doesn't mean we don't have to obey God's moral laws of conduct. That would be like a man getting paroled from prison and then ignoring the same laws that sent him to prison in the first place. Jesus only died once, so if we willingly break God's law, after accepting Jesus, our reward will be eternal damnation (Hebrews 10:26-27) 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 but this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 from henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

The point that is not understood is that we all have sin, but until Jesus came, there was no way of getting out from under your sins. So God institute a Priesthood and laws that went with the priesthood to control the sinning, and so the Lord use animal Sacrificial laws, even though it could not remove sins.

When Jesus died on the cross that was the end of the first covenant, which consisted of the blood of animals and the keeping of God’s commandments. And his death also brought in the second covenant, which consist of the blood of Jesus and the keeping of God’s commandments.
You seem to be under the delusion that I speak against the Law of God. I have not nor do I.

1. Grace is the foundation of righteousness

  • Righteousness doesn’t come from us keeping laws (Romans 3:20–22).
  • It comes as a gift through faith in Jesus, because of His sacrifice (Ephesians 2:8–9).
  • So when God declares us righteous (“justifies” us), it’s not on the basis of our law-keeping, but on the basis of Christ’s obedience and blood.

2. The Law shows us our need, grace gives us the power

  • The law exposes sin but cannot remove it (Romans 7:7–13).
  • Grace not only forgives sin, but also empowers us to live differently (Titus 2:11–12).
  • This is where the “schoolmaster” image (Galatians 3:24–25) comes in: the law brings us to Christ, but once we are in Him, grace trains us to actually walk in righteousness.

3. Obedience flows from grace, not from self-effort

  • Under the New Covenant, God writes His laws on our hearts (Hebrews 8:10; Ezekiel 36:26–27).
  • This means obedience is no longer about external compulsion, but about internal transformation by the Spirit.
  • Paul calls this “the righteousness of the law fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit” (Romans 8:3–4).

4. Faith + Grace = Fruitful Obedience

  • Genuine faith is never passive. It produces works of righteousness as evidence (James 2:17–18).
  • Grace doesn’t excuse disobedience; it enables obedience.
  • This is why Paul can say, “we are not under law but under grace” (Romans 6:14), and yet immediately warn against using grace as a license to sin (Romans 6:15).

In short:
  • We are saved by grace alone, through faith, apart from works.
  • That same grace transforms us so that we walk in God’s moral will.
  • Our obedience is the fruit of grace, not the basis of salvation.
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Comparing Israel and the Church

The nation of Israel lives today in rebellion (except for few Jews who have been saved by grace by faith in Christ Jesus) and they are not better than other nations.
Israel is in rebellion against God the same way all people are in any nation. But God obligated Himself to Abraham to produce a nation in covenant with Himself, and even in thheir falling away God has obligated Himself to restore them.
Many Christians naively think God will bless them if they support Israel with mareralistic means, but we know that God does not bless sin.
People are blessed when they pray for the restoration of the Jews to God as a nation.
Israel needs the Gospel. Not that it does not need financial or other materialistic support, but it needs the Gospel first and foremost, like every nation.

Israel has done a lot of evil since 1948, let's not defend that. But they have a right to exist as a nation, and they have a right to defend themself.
What evil has Israel done since 1948 more than any other nation? Many Jews still adhere to some elements of the Law of Moses, which contains a lot of God's moral requirements even for today under the New Covenant. The Jews in Israel today are being held up to higher standards than the world is holding the Palestinians to.
I also stronly believe God has not finished with Israel, and definitely has not replaced Israel with the Church, that's utter nonsense.
Thank you!!
God has a plan with Israel. When I, and many other Christians, look at Israel, we do not look at the current rebellious Israel, but the future redeemed Israel, when one third of Israel will be saved as written in the book of Zechariah.
Yes, only a part of Israel will be saved. But I believe they then have to be rebuilt into a full nation to fulfill prophecy.
I know many Christians disagree with this view on Israel, but to me it is clear that God is not finished with them. Even today, this tiny little nation survives against much stronger enemies, because God is defending them, and I pray many will get to see that and come to Christ.
We can certainly agree on your closing thoughts here. God makes covenants and He honors them. He is not doing it because Israel currently deserves it, but because they are Abraham's descendants who were promised nationhood.

The Covenant of Law has expired, but God promised to make a New Covenant with Israel. We, as Christians, already benefit from that New Covenant. But the prophecy specifically indicated that Israel will benefit from it too. Jer 31. Let's keep praying for that!
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Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

You’re out here talking about schools pushing surgery when they can’t even give your kid a Tylenol without a permission slip, lol. Such hysterical nonsense that I can’t believe people just fall for.
You're assuming that everyone's intelligence is in the normal range.

Former President Donald Trump repeated his false claim that children are undergoing transition-related surgery during their school day, worsening fears among some conservatives that educators are pushing children to become transgender and aiding transitions without parental awareness.

“Can you imagine you’re a parent and your son leaves the house and you say, ‘Jimmy, I love you so much, go have a good day in school,’ and your son comes back with a brutal operation? Can you even imagine this? What the hell is wrong with our country?” Trump said Saturday at a campaign rally in Wisconsin, a vital swing state.

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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

That's what Affirmative Action would do. Under Affirmative Action the black pilot would actually have to qualify at least to the standards of white pilots...if not a bit more, because "White Privilege" is actually a thing, and particularly was when that black male pilot started his journey.

DEI would do more and differently for a more specific outcome. DEI would require standards to be "adjusted" to make sure of a positive outcome. But DEI hasn't actually done much for blacks in general and not for black men in particular, so the odds that DEI gained his position are zero to none.

Statistics show that black people in general and black men in particular have been less benefited by DEI policies than any other group...less even than white men.
Im not disputing anything in your post I’m just curious how white men benefit from DEI? Are they LGBTQ white men ?
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Trump to designate antifa a 'major terrorist organization'

No, Rob is right. I worked for a criminal attorney who handled a big case involving the Bandidos MC. I learned a lot. They have written by-laws and such, but it's all intentionally and mysteriously decentralized.
No. Because your experience leads you to learn the Bandidos operate like the Hells Angels (or other mafias) does not mean antifa does. Antifa is a protest org and not a mafia enterprise. The incentives and personality types are totally different.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

And what do they claim made these precision vases in the hardest of stone. The method on the wall. Yet we have already agreed that the method on the wall does not match the signatures and some other method such as a sophisticated lathe was used. Where is the lathe on the wall pictures.
We have? Perhaps you didn't get my drift a few days back in post #327. I think both object V18 and M8 are modern imitations given the turned nature of their interior, especially the bottoms.



The wall pics show vases being made in softer stone like alabasta which we have plenty of inferior works as examples from all over the world. But they don't explain the precision granite vases which strangly enough happen even before the potters wheel.

You are getting hung up on fact that of the few illustrations of stoneware making the earliest are from a few centuries past the peak of hard stone vessels and in the era of vessels of alabaster and other soft stones. It is also the era of copper chisels.
Actually you also recognised the modern signatures. So did others. You don't have to be an engineer or an archeologists to recognise this.
In what I believe to be a reproduction.
Actually Flinders Petrie was the first archeologist to discover these before the onset of modern tech and he thought no existing tech or method available in his time could have made those signatures.

He spoke of there being tremendous pressure on the cutting mechanism to be able to cut into the granite yet remain perfectly still. He more or less came to the same conclusion as those proposing some sort of advanced tech and knowledge before there was advanced tech and knowledge.
There is 100 years work done since then and we have all sorts of new techniques for probing objects and dating sediments.
What, we just worked out what sort of device may have been used such as some sort of sophisticated lathe. We certainly went beyond the wall painting method.
LOL.
I don't know how the vases were made. All we have is the witness marks which point to some sort of sophisticated lathe tyo be able to achieve such precision.
You certainly seem to imply if not outright claim what those methods are and the sources of those claims are cranks who believe all sorts of nonsense about Ancient Egypt and other ancient civilizations
Yeah I have seen this one. They once again show the wall method into softer stone which no one is saying did not happen. As I mentioned it seems it was like there were two different industries. One with plenty of common softer imprecise vases and one with a smaller amount of precision vases.
The "wall method"? I thought that was the one with the drill/grider on the end of a shaft with a balance weight and an offset handle:

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These are all being demonstrated with HARD STONE.

As though like a specialist sector in precision works that everyone tried to copy. That happened in the earliest times in predynastic Egypt.
This is cope.
How do you know its from a drill bit. Its a pretty big one. It may be just a design. A glyph. Is is a perfect circle lol. So was this made on a lathe.
If you actually read the article at


you would see that it is all about *obvious* core drilling includng at the center of both the Sabu bowl *and* the one I posted, plus other artifacts and buildings.
But I think you meant this one

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No. I didn't mean that one. I chose the bowl I did because it *wasn't* that one yet has some resemblance to
I am pointing out how an antiques expert is no more knowledgable on precision tooling and engineering than an archeologists.
So the alternative is to get modern tool guys that don't know squat about archeology? I don't think so. The evidence for advanced tools needs to be something other than the flights of fancy of non-archeologists.
Note I did not ask Ai if there was advanced tech and knowledge. Only if archeologists pocessed expertise in engineering and precision tools. It just spat that out like its a commonly known possibility when it comes to the precision found in ancient works. A natural follow on.

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Archaeologists use modern engineering principles and technology to analyze ancient engineering, but they are not inherently experts in engineering or precision tooling; instead, they collaborate with engineers and use high-tech equipment like 3D scanners and lidar to study and understand the incredible precision and advanced engineering found in ancient monuments, which continues to puzzle experts and suggests lost technologies or advanced knowledge beyond what is currently known.
It is a bit ironic that one of the previous extended discussion of these objects was a contamination of one @sjastro 's thread about AI analysis and problem solving that you now show us some muddled AI's response. These text large language models work by finding correlations between phrases and statements and trying to determine which things are most likely to be next to others. This response you post is clearly poisoned by all of the garbage posted making the kinds of claims in the "AI" did.

I don't know your exact query, but it does seem that you asked something about "archeologists pocessed expertise in engineering and precision tools". This combination of terms and used together only appear in the websites you keep quoting and people responding to them, so of course it generated something based on those sites to your liking.
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Transcript of Kirk's killer's messages has been revealed

DNA tests are pretty accurate dont you think? Kinda hard to get it wrong. But again, on those rare occasions, the doctor will make the decision based on a medical diagnosis, not because how the child was feeling that day. Now, back to reality.

That's a bad argument based on a kind of genetic reductionism that medical science itself doesn't even recognize. There are plenty of conditions where genetics don't match phenotypical expression of a given characteristic.
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Charlie Finds Our Wound

Percicly, we know those who are with Jesus Christ of Nazareth have been made perfect in Him. Those in the flesh must stay on course.
Blessings
As many as will be perfect, AND?? You are really pulling out of the Apostle's fuller account on the matter. One, Paul had every reason to rest on perfection in Christ as second to none, in which he considered all past tense qualifications ''dung'' and willingly forgot all to press on for the mark of the high calling. Its all there. The babe, the full-age. The carnal element, the spiritual. The Apostle's inclusion of self-admitted faults, the glories of the cross. Its all there and really not that rigorous of a study!
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Military leaders consider politicizing the armed forces with recruiting campaign centered on Charlie Kirk

Military leaders consider recruiting campaign centered on Charlie Kirk

Possible slogans discussed include “Charlie has awakened a generation of warriors.” There is talk of using Turning Point USA chapters as recruitment centers.
Pentagon leaders are considering a new recruiting campaign that would encourage young people to honor the legacy of assassinated conservative activist Charlie Kirk by joining the military, according to two officials familiar with the planning.

Anthony Tata, who serves as undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, is leading the effort, the officials said.

The idea is facing resistance from some Pentagon leaders who have privately warned those working on the effort that such a campaign could be perceived as the military trying to capitalize on Kirk’s death, the two officials said. Kirk did not serve in the armed forces.

The Challenge's Davis Mallory says he's no longer gay: 'God

The reason these transformations/miracles are not discussed as they should be is because they are just too offensive to the ideology most are indoctrinated into now. And many do not have the courage to speak out seeing the reactions to such experiences. Calling a transwoman a biological man regardless of the truth of the matter is enough to get someone targeted. JMO.
Yes, the secular media would probably not report such a miracle (all kudos to the Daily Mail for doing so) and most non-believers probably don't read/watch Christian news outlets.
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Limited atonement !

Another example, the crowd at Pentecost was cut to the heart--but had not yet repented or received the Holy Spirit.

Acts 2:36-39​
36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”​
37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Men and brethren, what shall we do?”​
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.” (NKJV)​
So is regeneration separate from repentance, or receiving the Holy Spirit?
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Ezra Klein: Charlie Kirk was practicing politics the right way

You can dislike much of what Kirk believed, and the following statement is still true: Kirk was practicing politics in exactly the right way. He was showing up to campuses and talking with anyone who would talk to him.
It really sounds like he's never watched the guy holding court on campuses.
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SpaceX Starship 9 breaking apart

Getting ready for Starship 11, "SpaceX’s Ship spacecraft is now on the pad at Starbase in southern Texas awaiting static engine tests ahead of its 11th flight atop the first-stage Super Heavy booster." - SpaceX shows Starship on the pad ready for engine test

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Harris reveals she almost picked Buttigieg as VP, feared America wasn't ready for duo


The bottom line was she didn't pick him because he was gay.

Charlie Kirk shooting suspect Tyler Robinson could face firing squad

My point was that "stick and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" was something my generation was taught as children, and we were expected to carry that idea throughout adulthood.
I remember it too. (I'm in my seventies). However, I've come to profoundly disagree with it.
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A conversation about unity.

You're not actually listening closely to anything I say and then you're feeding your misinterpretation into your report about what it is you "THINK" I've said. Just know that I don't accept your terminology as an accurate description of my position on Christian Theology.

Anyway, it's your thread. Enjoy it, bro!
You will need to tell me what you allege is misrepresenting something you've said, as far as I know I didn't represent anything in my post as a quote from you or as a summary of your stated positions.
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