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Special Counsel Report Says Trump Would Have Been Convicted in Election Case

Trump is poison to America, the world and the planet itself. And yet we swallowed him because he appealed to our basest nature.

Are we waking up yet? Can we still recover?
No.
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Hello everybody

My name is just plain old Dave. I used to post on Christian forums for about eight years when they first became popular in the early two thousands, and then stopped for about ten plus years, until recently when I started posting again. It seems that the character of many of the main forums has changed. I'm guessing that many were sold, which I always thought was inevitable since these were kind of a last stand where Christians could still talk without the 'modern thinking' (to put in mildly) policing us. So I'm looking for a new home.

My views on Scripture have grown, and they they have always been unique in a lot of ways and continue to be so. I've always considered myself reformed, but at the same time, I've always questioned some of the traditional reformed views of Scripture. Recently, many of those questions are being answered and I'm finding myself moving further away from traditional reformed views. Though, foundationally, I still hold to God's sovereignty over all things and continue in those core Biblical beliefs. I'm anxious to bring my understanding of Scripture to productive discussions and see what happens.

Sorry in advance for my dyslexia crippled posts. Sometimes it makes my already hard to understand posts even more difficult to read. I have good days and bad. Looking forward to talking....

Dave

Thanks for sharing!

I'm brand new to this intriguing Forum.
I love productive discussions so Hopefully I get to interface your Understanding of scripture.
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The Bread which Came Down from Heaven

“Then the Jews began to argue with one another, saying, ‘How can this man give us His flesh to eat?’ So Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves. He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink. He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also will live because of Me. This is the bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live forever.’” (John 6:52-58 NASB1995)

Now, this is a passage of Scripture which can be somewhat confusing or disturbing if we don’t understand the message behind it. In this case, I believe, Jesus was speaking more metaphorically or figuratively, much like he did in all his parables, and in order to illustrate a biblical truth. For there is no record in the Scriptures of anyone literally eating of Jesus’ flesh or drinking of his blood, and yet there were people who believed in Christ and who had salvation from sin and eternal life with God promised them.

So, what can we make of this? What did Jesus’ body and blood represent? They represented his body given for us on that cross in the shedding of his blood in order that he might put our sins to death with him, so that by God-persuaded faith in him we might die to sin and live to righteousness in walks of obedience to our Lord and to his commands. So, to eat isn’t just about consuming physical food, but taking in (accepting) spiritual nourishment resulting in a trusting relationship with Jesus Christ as our Savior and Lord.

Since his flesh and blood were given for us on that cross, to eat his flesh and to drink his blood means to accept into our lives what he did for us in putting our sins to death with him so that we can now walk in freedom from bondage to sin. And it means that we partake of what he did for us by us now following our Lord in death to sin and in walks of obedience to his commands, living holy lives, pleasing to God. We participate with him in his death when we die to sin and now live to God and to his righteousness.

For Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

And then we need to take Jesus’ message to heart, for he meant what he said. If we do not partake of his death and resurrection, in us being crucified with Christ in death to sin, and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin, but as servants of righteousness, in obedience to our Lord’s commands, then we have no life in us, i.e. the life of the Spirit of God. We are not born of the Spirit, we are not of genuine faith in Jesus Christ, and we will not have eternal life with God in heaven.

But if we do partake in his death and resurrection, and we do die to sin, and now we live for God to do what pleases him, then we are promised eternal life with God. And we are those who abide in him, and him in us. And that means that we obey him, we follow Jesus wherever he leads us, and we conform our lives, by the Spirit, to his will and purpose for our lives. We uphold his teachings, not just in word, but in deed, and we live the lives God designed for us to live, by his grace, in his power, by the Spirit within us.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

Abide in Him

Based off Ps. 27:14; Is. 40:31; Jn. 14-15
An Original Work / July 31, 2013
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love


If you wait for the Lord, put your hope now in Him,
He will give you His strength and endurance within.
He will renew your strength, so you will not lose heart.
You will soar on wings like eagles, never depart.

“If you abide in Me, and My words live in you,
You will walk with Me daily and follow what’s true.
I will live now in you; give you peace now within,
If you obey My teachings and turn from your sin.”

“If you listen to Me, and do all that I say,
I will give you My comfort; be with you always.
I will heal all your pain; life with Me now you’ll gain,
If in fellowship with Me you always remain.”

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The Bread which Came Down from Heaven
An Original Work / December 3, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Skillet’s ‘O Come, O Come Emmanuel’ Hits No. 1 on 5 Billboard Charts Despite ‘Demonic’ Criticism

I listened to it. Didn’t find it “demonic” at all.
Here, too. I don't particularly enjoy the flashing lights towards the end, but I sure wouldn't call it demonic.

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Lady: Are you the police?
Elwood Blues: No, ma'am, we're musicians ... We're on a mission from God.
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The Church Under Fire Part 1

Everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted (1 Timothy 3:12). We're in the Last days, being victimized in a church or put out of a church for good behaviour is commonplace now. God Bless :)
Just as a point of clarification, it looks like you meant to quote a different section of scripture; 1 Tim 3:12 is dealing with what sort of person a leader in the Church needs to be.

I'm hoping to be helpful here and my main thoughts are about how believers, just as can anyone, can find ourselves drawn toward various topics that can overshadow our beliefs and take more room than is good, and comes from a healthy balance. I'm thinking as an example, of one church member whose worldview became centered on, as he'd put it, the devil. Trying to help him see how he wasn't focusing where we need to focus didn’t get anywhere. He'd talk about how if we weren't careful we'd end up in the devil's back pocket - not seeing that that was exactly where he was placing himself.

Persecution, victimization, and being mistreated isn't where we're told to have our attention. Following that path will not lead to anything good or healthy. Those things can certainly come, but focusing on them can also ruin our joy and our usefulness. They can even lead to a view of ourselves that's too much about us.

We can recognize, and even take pleasure in, not being part of this world. We don't fit with a broken world under the authority of the most evil entity in existence. While recognizing those facts, remaining focused on God and the good things he does is our mandate. That's what we're specifically told to focus on, and that's our message to a hurt and broken world.
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Believing is only the root, it must grow into trust and trust must grow into knowing.

Here a dose of wisdom from the Freeman files, that he has given the title, "Wall street Idols."

Based on the words of the Rebbe, "Ancient man looked up to the stars, modern man down to the headlines,

Both are fools."

They were wise, but they were fools----they abandoned the Master for the servant.

For in truth there is only One and all else is but a tool in His hand.

Not theology but reality.
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Father, sons drowned teen daughter over her ‘Western lifestyle’

There's not much to say about the murders , besides saying they should all be punished. Just like if any religious or non religious person, that murders people.
Yup. I agree completely.
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Male Accountability Thread

I've really been trying hard for years to save self-pleasure for when there are genuine sexual urges. Last night was a rare slip-up for me. :(
His mercies are new every day!!! Thank you Jesus!!! Move forward from it, ask God to renew your mind day by day.

God IS working in you every day even if you don't see the results. Stay faithful brother
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‘Just atrocious’: Trump’s polling numbers just hit a new low

Enten cited a recent Gallup poll that saw Trump’s net approval rating sink to -24 percent from -1 percent in January. “We’re talking about a drop of over 20 points in the wrong direction for the president of the United States,” the analyst said.

The only president who was less popular than Trump at this point in his second term? Richard Nixon, who had an approval rating of -36 points just a few months before he resigned from office. “Anywhere you look this is the second-worst for a president of either party in their second term dating all the way back since the 1940s,” Enten said.
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Have Christians misunderstood the scriptures of Gods plan for them?

NT Wright is about as far as one might wish to be from Adventist eschatology. He is a preterist (A partial preterist, which is what most Preterists are, few are "full preterist".

For him almost every prophecy in the Bible is fulfilled by 70 AD but he still allows the Rev 20 2nd resurrection, second death to be future.

as for SDA theology about the soul, the 28 FB do not teach non-existence at first death.
Neither the Bible, or EGW nor our 28 FB claim that Ezek 18:4 "the soul that sins it shall die" is a reference to the first death.

2 Cor 12 tells us that Paul does not know whether he went to the third heaven in the body or out of the body. hmm how is it that Paul is not a smart as N.T. Wright?

Matt 10:28 "do not fear those who can kill the body but CAN NOT kill the sou., (First death). Rather fear Him who can destroy BOTH body AND soul in fiery hell"

John `11 "our friend Lazarus sleeps", NOT "our friend Lazarus no longer exists"
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