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Are the Jews Israel, or is the church Israel? Or does it depend on the context of the passage?

Art Katz also said:
'Nothing has more disarmed the Church of the necessity for preparation, discipleship and maturity that can stand strong in faith, in these end times; than the mistaken idea of a rapture to heaven, so they won’t have to face the Lord’s wrath'.
The apostolic teaching (1 Th 4:16-17) of Jesus Christ (Lk 10:16) is that the catching up of the saints occurs after the resurrection at the second coming at the end of time.
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Is 'once saved always saved' a biblical teaching?

What does that mean?
Again, you are not being clear, which is almost always the case. Your doctrine says that people are objects of God's wrath right from birth, so how could Jesus say that the kingdom of heaven is made up of people such as those little children that Jesus said to come to Him? Those little children who you say were born as children of God's wrath. Explain that and
Children are trusting and unpretentious.

The kingdom of heaven is made up of those who are trusting in God and unpretentious about their sinful nature; i.e., those who are born again (Jn 3:3-5) by the sovereign choice (Jn 3:6-8) of the Holy Spirit.
stop being so vague.
Do you know the Bible well enough to engage in an informed Biblical discussion?
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Advice: Waiting for Mr. Right who manages money well

The response to the letter seems to miss the point of the question. The person asking the question is looking for someone who's financially responsible. I think that's a good quality to look for in a partner. "Dear Chuck" doesn't offer any advice on how to tell if your prospective partner is financially responsible; instead, he tells the questioner that people should marry young and hope they've chosen well. That's not helpful.
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Trump threatens: ‘If Hamas continues to kill people we’ll have no choice but to kill them’

After initially signaling his approval for Hamas’ bloody crackdown against its internal opponents, U.S. President Donald Trump threatened the terror group with renewed violence if it didn’t stop.

“If Hamas continues to kill people in Gaza, which was not the Deal, we will have no choice but to go in and kill them. Thank you for your attention to this matter,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

Since Israel’s partial withdrawal following the ceasefire, uniformed, masked, and heavily armed Hamas forces have reappeared in the areas vacated by the IDF.

Hamas forces have clashed with armed Palestinian clans several times, and even filmed themselves executing civilians — bound and blindfolded — in the streets.

Hamas officials admitted carrying out operations against alleged lawbreakers and collaborators with Israel, claiming they are working to restore order and security in the enclave.

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Ok in the meantime I was thinking of maybe people sharing some of their music projects. How they recorded songs, what equipment and software. Whether they record all at once, track by track and what sort of instruments do they use such as real as opposed to virtual instruments.

I have used virtual instruments and they are ok. But nothing like the real thing. Though I don't mind the precussions and synths. They can life a song. I am not skilled in audio engineering so I don't know how to get the best out of software instruments. I think they may be pretty good nowadays.

What about song writing. I tend to first come up with a tune or a loop of somesort in my head and build a song from that. Or sometimes I have some good wrods of a phrase that flows and I may work with this. But mostly I think the best songs come out of an experience and it sort of comes out as an expression. Thats how I think musicians write the best stuff. Its the artistic expression of self and lifes experiences.

I sometimes have a tune or section usually the hook or chorus where I mumble the words or make up words to fit the flow and then later try and fit proper words with the same flow. But I sometimes get stuck and cannot find the right words and think I will just use the made up or temporary word as it works best.

I heard that Lennon sometimes just used silly words or just made up words and people read all sorts of stuff in them lol. Or when Ozzy was in the studio and they needed another song for the album. They had the rift and that but no words. So Ozzy wanders out to the back garden for a moment and comes back with the words for 'Paranoid'. Simple as that lol. That says words are just one part of expression a song.
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The Beast of Revelation is a Political and Religious Entity.

Amo2, it’s been a while since your last response. It is my prayer that what I’ve shared with you has troubled you, and caused you to reconsider you understanding of closing events. May the Holy Spirit give you encouragement to be open to new insights.
Hello Tigger Boy. What you shared has not troubled me, I just like to properly understand and comprehend what others have said before responding. I am not a retired pastor or professor, just one who has studied the bible and biblical prophecy for many years now. Time is the main issue. I am responding and or posting in several different topics, I do have a bad habit of biting off more than I can chew and spreading myself to thin, among to many topics. So, I may be a bit slow with responses.

I feel sure we will have many disagreements, as I am a staunch historicist and of course see a great deal of evidence supporting this type of interpretation in the facts of history, but that is OK. I also believe that there are at least dual applications of many prophecies. As God is of course not limited by the many physical, dimensional, and therefore or thereby also intellectual restraints that we are, being basically within the box within which we now exist. Separated from many realities that exist even right around us at any given time, of which we are completely unaware. As there are many such dimensions we have no clue regarding, it only goes to reason, that such exists regarding our intellects and knowledge or basic understanding altogether. I am sure the word of God and biblical prophecy as well, have depths of understanding and meaning, far beyond our present abilities to even comprehend. Nevertheless, I do not think that such knowledge would or should contradict even the simplest understanding we now have, which have been and are established as it were by the word of God and obvious historical fulfillment.

The basics of my view are as follows -

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

All of holy scripture is a record of history concerning the fulfillment of the above original prophecy. A record of the history of this world regarding the enmity between the two seeds addressed above. Which record includes many prophetic visions along the way, addressing these same struggles unto the end or resolution of the problems created in the garden. Which themselves are concerning the main players of the struggles between, namely God's own in this world, and the nations or peoples most specifically involved with or opposed to them. The prophecies themselves authenticating and exalting the truthfulness and authority of God of course, from whom they proceeded. Even our Lord Jesus Christ and His apostles referred to them often relating events as transpiring that this or that prophecy might be fulfilled. An obvious reference and support of historicist prophetic interpretation. In the end of course, I believe we will all clearly see the unfolding and continuity of historical biblical prophecy perfectly. Not to mention no doubt the multifaceted nature of God's word and prophecies we are presently hard put to comprehend.

I have not yet read all your response, and must now get about doing many other things which should have already been done, not to mention need doing routinely of course. When I find a little more time to examine what you have stated to date, I will respond. Perhaps tomorrow on the Sabbath I'll have enough time to take it all in. Have a happy.
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Discussion 1: Eve (God's Word to Women book)

No, I believe firmly in the so-called hypostatic union, not the two natures only loosely united that Nestorians believe.
So, if Jesus is the Second Person of Holy Trinity, He is God. St. Mary is the mother of Jesus. Therefore, St. Mary is the mother of God.
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Younger priests remain more conservative than older priests in U.S., survey says

I believe that this is because homosexuality is more open today than in the past.

In the past, many homosexuals often became priest and brought with them a liberal ideology.

Today, young men are entering the priesthood without the pressure from their parents as in the past,
and they tend to be more conservative.

I believe it's a positive thing rather than a draw back. We're getting a better quality of men entering
the priesthood.
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Trump's reputation will age like fine wine

But they're terrible people... getting bad people to criticize other bad people doesn't give criticisms any legitimacy.
Purity tests are dumb. Nobody is "pure", politically or morally. If you insist on only pure witnesses or accusers, then you will have none. (Including none to witness against the bad witnesses.) With any "witness" (good or evil) an evaluation of what their motivations are, what they could possibly know, etc., is part of understanding their testimony. One can live by a code of ethics and honor and be a war monger, just as one can live a life in service and be jealous of the recognition given to others.
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Pilgrim's Progress: A classic that still has value

I have heard of Hannah Hurnard and I think I may have read some of her writing's but probably over 30 years ago. All I remember is that there was character in one called "Much Afraid" (based on the author?) EM Bounds I think i may have read some of too, but thanks for reminding me of him, I'll look up some of his books online. Stepping Heavenward, I don't recall.

Leanne Payne mentioned Hurnard in one of her books, she thought Hurnard had drifted in her later books into some sort of universalism.

In any case there are some similiarities in the type of story at least in her first book, with Pilgrim's Progress, so she may have read it.

The problems seem to be with her teachings on hearing God. Payne who herself taught much about the listening aspect of prayer, I find a more reliable guide to the spiritual life.
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Wisconsin man charged after posting TikTok videos calling for the killing of ICE agents, prosecutors say

The name calling and violent rhetoric, the demonization of law enforcement officials, continues to spur on these guys who are on the edge. The political leaders and media members who do this won't stop. They won't stop until they lose enough support.

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made...

There are really two churches. There is the corporate church which you find on a local street in any city made up of believers and non believers, the wheat and tares. Then is the eternal church made up of only true believers. This is the church in view in the verse you quoted.
There are many churches. Even in the New Testament, we have the church at Jerusalem, the church at Ephesus, the church at Corinth, the church in Rome, and many more.
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ICE arrests police officer in Chicago suburb and accuses him of being in US illegally

Simply put, he didn't.

It means the people who are doing the hiring in these locations are not looking for work authorization. In short, the hiring managers and higher ups don't care and are intentionally hiring illegals without work authorization.


That's certainly possible, but it strikes me as unlikely for 1.) a government agency, and 2.) a government agency that then publicly announces that person's employment in their organization.

If we were talking about some random farm hand being paid under the table or a factory worker employed through a placement firm, absolutely. I wouldn't even be thinking about this question. But government jobs tend to be especially strict regarding certain processes and abuses. For example, working two f/t salaried jobs simultaneously in the private sector will get you fired; doing so in the public sector will get you arrested. In the private sector, doing drugs in your personal time is generally overlooked unless there are some legitimate life safety or licensure requirements, but in the public sector (at least for federal jobs), ongoing use of weed an automatic disqualifier for any job, even subcontractors.

Hiring an illegal with a very unique name and then publishing that person's name and picture on official channels seems like an incredibly risky thing to do deliberately.

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