Zimmerman Found Not Guilty!

[bhsmte]

in Florida 12 are used only for cases where the death penalty is involved. Otherwise it is 6. The Supreme Court allows it but no smaller than 6 and if it is that small the decisions must be unanimous.

I think Florida is one of the few places that does it.

Decisions always have to be unanimous in criminal trials, no matter what the jury size is.

 

[S.ilvio]

S,ylvio, my friend,

What changes would need to be made in jurisprudence to satisfy you that the trial process is fair?

A six person jury is an insult to the word Justice, as we know it in Europe.

I daresay the Prosecution did an ok job but sometimes prejudice corrupts...

For a young, unarmed Black man to be shot dead and the non Black perp to walk free after stating he was sick of Travon's type getting away with it. well, is stinks to high heaven...

 

[bhsmte]

Travon's folks have just buried their son and the guy who was 'sick of seeing his sort getting away with it' walk free after shooting him at point blank range at the decision of half a jury.

You gotta love justice, Deep South style...

Well, we have this thing called EVIDENCE and evidence is required to prove someone guilty of a crime. Not only did the prosecution have scant evidence that Zimmerman was guilty, the defense produced evidence, that proved Zimmerman acted in self defense.

So, when you put those two things together, you get the outcome that was arrived at.

 

[sylverpiano]

A six person jury is an insult to the word Justice, as we know it in Europe.

I daresay the Prosecution did an ok job but sometimes prejudice corrupts...

For a young, unarmed Black man to be shot dead and the non Black perp to walk free after stating he was sick of Travon's type getting away with it. well, is stinks to high heaven...

So, if I am to understand you here, the basic fact that Travon Martin was shot is all that should be necessary for a conviction. If this is the case, why have a trial at all?

 

[Michie]

Again:

A very irresponsible press seemed to want racism to be the motive for this awful shooting, even editing a 911 audio tape to give that impression. Why? Why take a terrible tragedy and try to ramp it up, and make it more sensational, more emotional than it already was?

If you want to do a story on racism, there are plenty of them to go around. Why distort, exaggerate and hype this one, when others would meet the case?

Continued-Obama’s speech: cynical me and cynical he...

 

[S.ilvio]

So, if I am to understand you here, the basic fact that Travon Martin was shot is all that should be necessary for a conviction. If this is the case, why have a trial at all?

Southern justice is reverting to the stereotype.

Black guy gets popped by non-Black perp. The establishment rows in together and whaddya know. Half a jury finds non-Black perp innocent and everything is alright in the world...

 

[mark46]

The law is clear. The jury did the right thing.

Now, does ANYONE believe that if Tayvonn were a blond-haired white boy that he would have pursued as "one of those"? Perhaps, Zimmerman is a miserable excuse for a wannabe cop that he really was hunting youth regardless of color, perhaps not.

It is NOT white youth that are afraid to walk the streets or into department stores.

 

[Michie]

The law is clear. The jury did the right thing.

Now, does ANYONE believe that if Tayvonn were a blond-haired white boy that he would have pursued as "one of those"? Perhaps, Zimmerman is a miserable excuse for a wannabe cop that he really was hunting youth regardless of color, perhaps not.

It is NOT white youth that are afraid to walk the streets or into department stores.

Given the recent rash of break-ins & the suspects being black, you are probably right.

 

[sylverpiano]

The law is clear. The jury did the right thing.

Now, does ANYONE believe that if Tayvonn were a blond-haired white boy that he would have pursued as "one of those"? Perhaps, Zimmerman is a miserable excuse for a wannabe cop that he really was hunting youth regardless of color, perhaps not.

It is NOT white youth that are afraid to walk the streets or into department stores.

Friend mark1,

Although it may look like to to some, I am not trying to defend Mr. Zimmerman's actions.

I am defending his right to due process and a fair trial, in which he has the same presumption of innocence guaranteed to all of us.

Some people seem to be making this about race. Our friend S,lvio seems to think that Mr. Zimmerman should be considered guilty based on the fact that he, a non black person, shot a black person.

It is my opinion that the case would have been the same had both people involved been Caucasian. It just would have not received nationwide publicity.

 

[bhsmte]

The law is clear. The jury did the right thing.

Now, does ANYONE believe that if Tayvonn were a blond-haired white boy that he would have pursued as "one of those"? Perhaps, Zimmerman is a miserable excuse for a wannabe cop that he really was hunting youth regardless of color, perhaps not.

It is NOT white youth that are afraid to walk the streets or into department stores.

It is impossible to know the answer to that question. We will also never know the answer to this question; had Zimmerman been black, would Martin have attacked him?

Also, unless someone can come up with evidence to show Zimmerman had racial tendencies, it is pure speculation to state he profiled Martin by color and didn't just legitimately notice suspicious behavior as neighborhood watch people are trained to notice.

 

[Erose]

For all you folks who think Zimmerman got off on this, because he is a white Hispanic that killed a black teenager. Here is a very similar situation in New York, were it was a black man (Roderick Scott) killed a white 17 year old in self defense and was found not guilty back in 2009.

Jury Finds Roderick Scott Not Guilty Rochester, NY - YouTube

 

[mark46]

"Trained" neighborhood watch people listen the police when they are told not to follow/stalk so-Called suspicious people.

It is impossible to know the answer to that question. We will also never know the answer to this question; had Zimmerman been black, would Martin have attacked him?

Also, unless someone can come up with evidence to show Zimmerman had racial tendencies, it is pure speculation to state he profiled Martin by color and didn't just legitimately notice suspicious behavior as neighborhood watch people are trained to notice.

 

[bhsmte]

"Trained" neighborhood watch people listen the police when they are told not to follow/stalk so-Called suspicious people.

Produce the evidence that Zimmerman "stalked" Martin. Also, once the dispatcher said, we don't need you to do that, produce the evidence that Zimmerman was still following Martin, especially if he had lost sight of him and didn't know where he was. You can't follow someone, if you don't know where they are.

 

[mark46]

"Trained" neighborhood watch people listen the police when they are told not to follow/stalk so-called suspicious people.

Just BTW, if the suspects in the many break-ins were indeed black, Zimmerman may have been justified in thinking that Travvon was a "suspicious person". And then he should have done his duty as a neighborhood watch person and reported the person to the police and asked advice. But then he did, didn't he.

Then, after the police told him not to pursue, he, with malice, went after Travvon. Travvon stood HIS ground. Travvon was winning the fight. Travvon was executed pursuant to Florida law.

It is impossible to know the answer to that question. We will also never know the answer to this question; had Zimmerman been black, would Martin have attacked him?

Also, unless someone can come up with evidence to show Zimmerman had racial tendencies, it is pure speculation to state he profiled Martin by color and didn't just legitimately notice suspicious behavior as neighborhood watch people are trained to notice.

 

[bhsmte]

"Trained" neighborhood watch people listen the police when they are told not to follow/stalk so-called suspicious people.

Just BTW, if the suspects in the many break-ins were indeed black, Zimmerman may have been justified in thinking that Travvon was a "suspicious person". And then he should have done his duty as a neighborhood watch person and reported the person to the police and asked advice. But then he did, didn't he.

Then, after the police told him not to pursue, he, with malice, went after Travvon. Travvon stood HIS ground. Travvon was winning the fight. Travvon was executed pursuant to Florida law.

With "malice" he went after Martin? Where the hell are you getting this stuff from?

He walked up a sidewalk (casually) to get an address, he expressed concern when giving out his address to the police because HE DIDN'T KNOW where Martin was because HE LOST HIM.

Zimmerman had every right to walk up that sidewalk without being attacked. He wasn't running up the sidewalk, he wasn't yelling to threaten Martin, he was simply walking to get an address for police to meet him. Show me the malice.

 

[Erose]

"Trained" neighborhood watch people listen the police when they are told not to follow/stalk so-called suspicious people.

Just BTW, if the suspects in the many break-ins were indeed black, Zimmerman may have been justified in thinking that Travvon was a "suspicious person". And then he should have done his duty as a neighborhood watch person and reported the person to the police and asked advice. But then he did, didn't he.

Then, after the police told him not to pursue, he, with malice, went after Travvon. Travvon stood HIS ground. Travvon was winning the fight. Travvon was executed pursuant to Florida law.

Why do people feel free to make things up about this case to justify their position?

Here are the facts on this case: Trayvon was dressed like a thug. When Zimmerman sees him, Trayvon was not walking on the sidewalk or in the street of Zimmerman's neighborhood, but rather was sneaking through the neighborhood's residents' backyards. Anyone with any common sense would have deduced that Trayvon was up to no good.

Trayvon is just as responsible for his death, if not more so, than Zimmerman. Trayvon should have been walking the sidewalk or in the street. He wasn't. He was trespassing on people's property. When he noticed that Zimmerman was watching him, Trayvon should have done the smart thing and hauled tail out of there, or at least approached Zimmerman and asked him why he was following him. Trayvon should have never attacked Zimmerman. Never. But he did and the results were bad.

 

[Erose]

With "malice" he went after Martin? Where the hell are you getting this stuff from?

He walked up a sidewalk (casually) to get an address, he expressed concern when giving out his address to the police because HE DIDN'T KNOW where Martin was because HE LOST HIM.

Zimmerman had every right to walk up that sidewalk without being attacked. He wasn't running up the sidewalk, he wasn't yelling to threaten Martin, he was simply walking to get an address for police to meet him. Show me the malice.

Sadly he can't. For some reason there are people who feel the need to invent reasons to vilify Zimmerman, for they cannot do so on facts alone.

 

[LoAmmi]

Trayvon was dressed like a thug.

What does a thug dress like?

 

[MikeK]

What does a thug dress like?

You know, thuggy. Like with hooded sweatshirts and stuff. Black skin, a baseball cap or maybe not, hooded sweatshirt, probably pants or shorts and shoes of some sort...

 

[Erose]

What does a thug dress like?

Like Trayvon.