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[Metanoia02]

Chapter and verse please when referencing God's Word. thanks.

1Tim 3:15

 

[nephilimiyr]

1Tim 3:15

That's right but the Church isn't the Roman Catholic Church, it's the body of believers who profess Jesus Christ as savior and Lord.

 

[Metanoia02]

That's right but the Church isn't the Roman Catholic Church, it's the body of believers who profess Jesus Christ as savior and Lord.

As I stated a body of believers who have different doctrines can not be the pillar and foundation for anything, much less the truth

 

[livingproofGM]

If that were the case, God's Church would be a bunch of confused souls. The Catholic church is no where near confusion.

 

[canadiancatholic]

Sorry didn't mean to start a debate. Just was curious as to how other faith's view our salvation. There were alot of great, loving posts. Thanks for the imput. The reason I switched was I felt a great calling and have never been moved as much as I was than when I went through our RCIA. The RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults)was a great experience and at the time I was just curious about the faith. I would bet that a great many protestants would benefit just attending these classes. Not only would they deepen your faith, but give you a better understanding of the Catholic religion. All the accusations of idolatry and false worship would be clarified, as I once thought the same as you.

Yours in Christ,
canadiancatholic

 

[nephilimiyr]

If that were the case, God's Church would be a bunch of confused souls. The Catholic church is no where near confusion.

So what, the Eastern Orthodox is no where near confusion either. The Luthern Church is no where near confusion. There are thousands upon thousands of denominations that are no where near confusion.

 

[nephilimiyr]

Sorry didn't mean to start a debate. Just was curious as to how other faith's view our salvation. There were alot of great, loving posts. Thanks for the imput. The reason I switched was I felt a great calling and have never been moved as much as I was than when I went through our RCIA. The RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults)was a great experience and at the time I was just curious about the faith. I would bet that a great many protestants would benefit just attending these classes. Not only would they deepen your faith, but give you a better understanding of the Catholic religion. All the accusations of idolatry and false worship would be clarified, as I once thought the same as you.

Yours in Christ,
canadiancatholic

Just let your love center on Christ, not your church or the place you worship, whatever it may be, and you will never go wrong. Paul says love never fails and I believe him.

 

[Metanoia02]

So what, the Eastern Orthodox is no where near confusion either. The Luthern Church is no where near confusion. There are thousands upon thousands of denominations that are no where near confusion.

But if you put them all together and call them the Church it would be total confusion.

 

[nephilimiyr]

But if you put them all together and call them the Church it would be total confusion.

LOL, I can't argue that one but that still doesn't make the RCC the "Church"as it also doesn't make the Baptist Church or the EOC the Church.

Look, I see God moving in all or most churches and denominations. I see the face of Christ in a Baptist just as much as in the face of a RC. I see the fruits of both. It's all about increasing the Kingdom of God, it's not about us. It's not about whether we worship the correct way or whether we say the right things or do the right things. I have personally found that if you take care of what God wants and desires then He will take care of you. I see this in evidence all the time. When you have a pasion for what God loves, you get His attention. When you get turn on about God and cause the Kingdom to increase someway God moves on your behalf and He opens up doors and brings things to pass. I've found this to be true to both the Catholic and the Protestant.

 

[Metanoia02]

Look, I see God moving in all or most churches and denominations. I see the face of Christ in a Baptist just as much as in the face of a RC. I see the fruits of both. It's all about increasing the Kingdom of God, it's not about us. It's not about whether we worship the correct way or whether we say the right things or do the right things. I have personally found that if you take care of what God wants and desires then He will take care of you. I see this in evidence all the time.

I agree 100%. But the truth IS out there. Without it we run the risk of leading new believer's into error. This is a serious matter for those who are called to be shepherds. They will be judged by how they lead thier flocks.

 

[nephilimiyr]

I agree 100%. But the truth IS out there. Without it we run the risk of leading new believer's into error. This is a serious matter for those who are called to be shepherds. They will be judged by how they lead thier flocks.

Many flocks outside the Roman Catholic Church are doing Gods will. Yes there are some denominations that are a drift but by and large the kingdom of God is increasing.

Metanoia02, it's my firm belief that many people, doesn't matter whether they are Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, or non-denominational, when it's all said and done will be completely surprised at who has recieved salvation and who will recieve the greater awards. Time will tell my friend, time will tell.

Please read my editts. I know, I was editing again... I'm sorry

 

[Pac Shady]

A man dies and goes to Heaven. St Peter takes him on a tour of the grounds, to show him the sites and scenery and where everything is, etc.

They pass a room with hundreds of people inside, praising the Lord and having a great old time, with food and drinks up the back and a good social atmosphere. The man asks "Who are those people?" "Oh, they're the Presbyterians, that's where they worship God." said Peter.

They pass another room, also with hundreds of people inside. They're jumping up and down, dancing, speaking in tongues, waving flags and blowing horns. Quite a noisy mob. "Who are they?" "Oh, that's the Pentecostals. That's their place of worship (with extra soundproofing in the walls )."

They keep walking. Again, they pass another door, this time the people inside are much more quiet, but praising God in a slightly more sombre way than the others previous. "Who are those people?" the man asks. "Those would be the Anglicans, nice group of people, keep to themselves usually, but rather friendly and cheerful when you get to know them."

They walked on. They approached another room, this one was closed with huge heavy wooden doors, and soft music flowed from within. "Shhhh, we have to be very quiet walking past this door."

"Why's that?" whispered the man Peter was leading on this tour. "Because," he replied, "those are the Catholics. They think they're the only one's up here."

 

[nephilimiyr]

LOL, my, my, my.

Since that was a joke I think I'll just keep my objections to myself.

 

[happy_face1988]

As long as you trust in Jesus alone as your way to heaven and God, and always believe he is your saviour and died for you and that he is the way the truth and the life, than you are saved.
Personally, I believe that God won't look at your denomination as a determining factor to your entry to heaven, he will look at your heart and what you believed!

 

[zaire]

A man dies and goes to Heaven. St Peter takes him on a tour of the grounds, to show him the sites and scenery and where everything is, etc.

They pass a room with hundreds of people inside, praising the Lord and having a great old time, with food and drinks up the back and a good social atmosphere. The man asks "Who are those people?" "Oh, they're the Presbyterians, that's where they worship God." said Peter.

They pass another room, also with hundreds of people inside. They're jumping up and down, dancing, speaking in tongues, waving flags and blowing horns. Quite a noisy mob. "Who are they?" "Oh, that's the Pentecostals. That's their place of worship (with extra soundproofing in the walls )."

They keep walking. Again, they pass another door, this time the people inside are much more quiet, but praising God in a slightly more sombre way than the others previous. "Who are those people?" the man asks. "Those would be the Anglicans, nice group of people, keep to themselves usually, but rather friendly and cheerful when you get to know them."

They walked on. They approached another room, this one was closed with huge heavy wooden doors, and soft music flowed from within. "Shhhh, we have to be very quiet walking past this door."

"Why's that?" whispered the man Peter was leading on this tour. "Because," he replied, "those are the Catholics. They think they're the only one's up here."

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