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Well, you did claim that if a prophesy is already fulfilled, it is therefore now useless and "irrelevant" did you not?I don't believe it's irrelevant and useless. I'm a Futurist,
So... it's nice that you wish for God to be with everyone, but is it really necessary to prefix every single post with it?Hello Douggg. The Peace of Jesus, "The Jewish Christ" who is the Holy Spirit, The Eternal Father, Son of God and Son of man, The God of Abraham and the Living God in His human nature, be with you...You say:<<<phesians 2:
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.<< WHO "IS SAVED"?!!! ARE YOU?!! Brother James....
Ha! I think this same story is playing itself out across all cities in North America right now. For some reason all city councils seem obsessed with bike lanes at the expense of driving lanes that are actually used. It's like they all got the same memo or something. In my city bike lanes also get plowing priority. Very strange.Many of our streets, lined with homes from which property taxes are extracted, are crumbing. However we have the nicest circuit of newly constructed bike paths, used mostly by students, who don't pay taxes. These bike paths are paid for by those same citizens whose streets are crumbling. How ironic. The bike paths are even plowed before our streets are, so the students can get their daily exercise. It's madness I tell you (and don't get me started about our lakes).
Where did I claim that ? I think you might still be a little angry about to calling you out on the ECF's and Antichrist false statement you made. You're reading in to the things I wrote.Well, you did claim that if a prophesy is already fulfilled, it is therefore now useless and "irrelevant" did you not?
Are you Building an Ark?
Hello Douggg...The Peace of Jesus, The Jewish "Christ" who is the Holy Spirit, The Eternal Father, Son of God and Son of man, the God of Abraham and the Living God in His human nature, be with you....You say:<<<Why are you infatuated with Abraham? It is Jesus who saves. I don't have eternal life because of Abraham<< See!! If you do not belong to the people of Abraham then you will not live with His God..= Gal. 3:24-29;14...See!!! Meaning that Jesus, "The Jewish Christ" is RIGHT in Matthew 25:41 = 1 John 5:19...See!! You have not eternal life, never have never will if you continue listening to lucifer, I will tell you "AGAIN" that fellow is a tricky, tricky, tricky merciless fellow...You say:<<Everyone according to the rules in this eschatology forum who participate are Christians - i.e. saved.<< I know..ONLY A REMNANT "IS SAVED BY GRACE"= Romans 11:5..And!! You are not among'em....OR!! Can you give me one single scripture that you've been saved "BY GRACE"?!!!!..Brother James....
Hello Douggg. The Peace of Jesus, "The Jewish Christ" who is the Holy Spirit, The Eternal Father,
That is the number of the name of the beast, in Arabic you say?
The text (Revelation) was written in Koine Greek.
So how do we know which language to use in determining the number of his name?
One doesn't know for sure which language to use. I would think that the Arabic numbering system and Greek numbering systems would be high on the list.
I think it's like a big puzzle. Any particular piece has to fit into the big picture. Does Islam fit into a bigger end-time picture? Islamic prophecy does seem interesting. That kind of points a finger at Allah.
Where did I claim that ?
So I was right you just made it upWait... so when OTHER PEOPLE people claim a prophesy is fulfilled, you "conclude" they are saying the prophesy "is irrelevant", but when you claim a prophesy is fulfilled, we should not likewise "conclude" you believe "it's irrelevant"?
It's different somehow when you do it?
Is that it?
A puzzle or a mystery to us all?One doesn't know for sure which language to use. I would think that the Arabic numbering system and Greek numbering systems would be high on the list.
I think it's like a big puzzle. Any particular piece has to fit into the big picture. Does Islam fit into a bigger end-time picture? Islamic prophecy does seem interesting. That kind of points a finger at Allah.
So I was right you just made it up
There's really nothing I can say to that. If you believe Revelation isn't relevant, I don't understand why you would even comment.
I'm not sure why you think I don't think think the Apocalypse is relevant.
You wrote,"The Apocalypse wasn't written to us, or to some group of people living at the end of the world--it's written to Christians living in the first century, in the province of Asia."
This is why I came to that conclusion.
Get yourself a bike and life will be wonderful again.Ha! I think this same story is playing itself out across all cities in North America right now. For some reason all city councils seem obsessed with bike lanes at the expense of driving lanes that are actually used. It's like they all got the same memo or something. In my city bike lanes also get plowing priority. Very strange.
Hello There...The Peace of Christ, The "Jewish Christ" who is the Holy Spirit, The Eternal Father, Son of God and Son of man, God of Abraham and the Living God in His Human nature...be with you....You say:<<
What do you mean by calling Christ "the Holy Spirit, the Eternal Father"? You do know that Jesus, as the eternally begotten Son of the Father, is a distinct Person of the Trinity right?
This comes across as a denial of the Trinity to me, but I'm hoping I'm wrong and you were simply careless in your words.<< The trinity of "Christendom=lucifer and his spiritual wife the catolic church and his daughters the protestant denominations, was coined in the year 170 by Quintus Septimus Florens Tertulianus a.k.a Tertullian....There were docens of trias before him from babylon to egypt...the trinity is the body of lucifer and his name jehovah, yahweh, yaveh, baphomet, etc..etc.etc..c.YOu say:<<You do know that Jesus, as the eternally begotten Son of the Father, is a distinct Person of the Trinity right?>> In lucifer's religion it is, not in Christianity=Spiritual Judaism....The Son was born so he can not be eternal, and he also died....You say:<<This comes across as a denial of the Trinity to me, but I'm hoping I'm wrong and you were simply careless in your words.<< YOu are CORRECT!! In your religion, not in My Doctrine, The Holy Scriptures, the Gospels and the doctrine of Jesus "The Jewish Christ"=(Since you have a catolic-roman, babylonian, mesopotamian, asirian, persian, egyptian, greek christ.....)You have "A FALSE CHRIST"=Matthew 24:4, 20, 23-25..Who is lucifer playing the part of the True Christ....Happy, HOly Sabbath-Day of Rest of the God of Abraham and His REMNANT (SAVED BY GRACE = Romans 11:5..The Spiritual Jews)...Brother James...
<< SOOOO!!! You believe or think the God of Abraham has a problem with it? 'cause I don't, do you?!! Brother James....[/QUOTE]Hello Freedm.. The Peace of Jesus, "The Jewish Christ" who is the Holy Spirit, The Eternal Father, Son of God and Son of man, The God of Abraham and The Living God in His human nature...be with you...You say::<<it's nice that you wish for God to be with everyone, but is it really necessary to prefix every single post with it?
Hello Dougg...The Peace of Jesus, The "Jewish Christ" who is the Holy Spirit, The Eternal Father, Son of God and Son of man, God of Abraham and The Living God, in His human nature be with you...You say:<<santiago, have you ever heard the term "preaching to the choir"?<< NOPE!! Can you explain it for me please, or would it be a burden too for you?!!!You say:<<You are in a thread about the identity of Babylon of Revelation 17. Who/what do you think Babylon in Revelation 17 is ?When I joined I saw only "Christian Forums"...Besides?!! Why would I be interested on babylon, being of the "REMNANT"?!! Does that make sense to you...Yes! I lived in the spiritual babylon for 50 years 25 years with the catolics and 25 with the protestants...."I'M PAST THAT"..LONGO AGO!!!!! I Belong to the Spiritual Israel the Israel of Jesus "The Jewish Christ"= Titus 2:13-15 + 3:5-7 = Psalm 102:18 = Ephesiasn 2:15 = 2 Corinthians 5:17-21 = Ephesians 5:24-27....I hope it helps you to understand where I come from and where 'am going to....Brother James....[/QUOTE]santiago, have you ever heard the term "preaching to the choir"?
You are in a thread about the identity of Babylon of Revelation 17. Who/what do you think Babylon in Revelation 17 is ?
Lets review,Perhaps a refresher is in order:
You said:
ViaCrucis responds:
You explain:
Which brings my back to my original query:
Why is it you conclude that when someone else Says a prophesy wasn’t written TO us, that it’s not relevant to them, yet when you say a prophesy wasn’t written TO us, it still gets to be relevant to you?
I brought up the prophesy of the flood as an example.
If you were consistent, we would have to conclude you don’t find the flood prophesy relevant in any way to the modem Christian, and therefore it is an unnecessary part of our Bibles, totally irrelevant and useless to us today.
How am I wrong to conclude that is what you believe?
or, again, is it different somehow when you do it?
If you ever sttend a Coptic Orthodox service, you'll find they refer to Allah a lot, probably because that's how they refer to God the Father. Careful where you swing that stick.That kind of points a finger at Allah.
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