Your Thoughts on Creation & Evolution

[pitabread]

Prove it and post an example or everyone will see your frustration trying to support the incomplete ToE. I told you it was flawed to begin with. Now you know.

Huh? I haven't been discussing the ToE. Did you reply to the wrong post?

 

[Kylie]

ALL of the creatures formed from the dust of the ground are temporary creatures and subject to DEATH. ALL of the "living" creatures, created from WATER on the 5th Day, are Eternal creatures, destined for Heaven. In order for creatures formed from the dust to get to Heaven, they MUST be born again by God the Trinity.

You have never provided any support for this interpretation.

Also, by your logic, humans can';t go to Heaven, since they were formed from the ground, not the water.

No man figured it out 3k years ago. It's proof of God, no matter how much that bothers you.

Do you think that there were only two points in time when people could figure things out? 3000 years ago and 2016?

Replying to my posts is NOT showing that they are wrong. IF someone here could show that I was wrong in any way, I would be happy to change my view. Amen?

I have done. You just refuse to listen.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

ALL of the creatures formed from the dust of the ground are temporary creatures and subject to DEATH. ALL of the "living" creatures, created from WATER on the 5th Day, are Eternal creatures, destined for Heaven. In order for creatures formed from the dust to get to Heaven, they MUST be born again by God the Trinity.

But that's not what science says. You keep making these bizarre claims which have no scientific support, you then provide links to science that do not support your claims and then you say that science supports your claims. You are one extremely confused person.

No man figured it 3k years ago

I thought God wrote Genesis?

Replying to my posts is NOT showing that they are wrong. IF someone here could show that I was wrong in any way, I would be happy to change my view. Amen?

You're so deep in denial you wouldn't change your view if God told you in person you're wrong.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

God the Son does. He takes some of the air, dust and water and sculpts it into shape, breathes life into it, and thus a "common ancestor" is made for Adam to name. Genesis 2:19

Is "God the Son" not God?

No, Jesus also made those Genesis 2:19 and God the Father made them ETERNAL by ALSO creating them Eternally from Water. Genesis 1:21

Chapter and verse, please, supporting a difference between ETERNAL and TEMPORARY. I'm not interested in your (previously refuted) nonsense about English pronouns, I want to see where the Bible specifically says some creatures are ETERNAL and others are TEMPORARY.

 

[Aman777]

pitabread said: ↑
You've been refuted eight ways from Sunday.

I ask you to prove it and so far you have failed to do so.

Huh? I haven't been discussing the ToE. Did you reply to the wrong post?

Try to keep up....

 

[Aman777]

You have never provided any support for this interpretation.

Sure I have but you seem to have trouble understanding. See if you can find any place in Scripture where Lord God "creates". Only God the Trinity creates.

Also, by your logic, humans can';t go to Heaven, since they were formed from the ground, not the water.

Amen. ONLY those of flesh who have been born again Spiritually by God the Trinity can enter Heaven. Have you been born again?

Do you think that there were only two points in time when people could figure things out? 3000 years ago and 2016?

No but 3k years ago ONLY God could have written Genesis since He included recent discoveries of Science, which NO man could have known at the time. It's proof of God.

I have done. You just refuse to listen.

Then post your proof so that everyone can see where you refuted God's Holy Word. You cannot.

 

[Aman777]

Aman777 said: ↑
ALL of the creatures formed from the dust of the ground are temporary creatures and subject toDEATH. ALL of the "living" creatures, created from WATER on the 5th Day, are Eternal creatures, destined for Heaven. In order for creatures formed from the dust to get to Heaven, they MUST be born again by God the Trinity.

But that's not what science says. You keep making these bizarre claims which have no scientific support, you then provide links to science that do not support your claims and then you say that science supports your claims. You are one extremely confused person.

It is what Science says. Science shows that all creatures living today will die. The reason is simple since they are made of the contaminated air, dust and water God created APART from Himself, in the beginning. Anything apart from God is DEAD.

 

[Aman777]

Is "God the Son" not God?

God the Son is the physical incarnation of God the Trinity, the invisible Spirit of Love.
In the end Love wins.

Chapter and verse, please, supporting a difference between ETERNAL and TEMPORARY. I'm not interested in your (previously refuted) nonsense about English pronouns, I want to see where the Bible specifically says some creatures are ETERNAL and others are TEMPORARY.

God didn't write the Bible according to your specifications. Try to find where Lord God creates. You will find that only God the invisible Trinity, which is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, creates. Jesus forms and the Trinity creates.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

God didn't write the Bible according to your specifications. Try to find where Lord God creates. You will find that only God the invisible Trinity, which is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, creates. Jesus forms and the Trinity creates.

So there is no place in the bible where it talks about ETERNAL and TEMPORARY animals? You admit, then, that you're just making it up?

Isn't it a sin to add to the bible?

 

[pitabread]

I ask you to prove it and so far you have failed to do so.

I've already provided examples of where science doesn't agree with you. You just resort to hand-waving away the things that contradict you. That's just denial.

Then you assert that no one has refuted you (more denial) and the cycle repeats.

Try to keep up....

Once again, I never mentioned the ToE in any of my posts. You seem to be responding to the wrong person.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

God didn't write the Bible according to your specifications. Try to find where Lord God creates. You will find that only God the invisible Trinity, which is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, creates. Jesus forms and the Trinity creates.

And let's put this whole nonsense about his/their/its kind to bed one last time.

Genesis 1:24 "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle..."
Genesis 1:25 "And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind..."

Yet more evidence that your interpretation is nonsense. Now let's see if your final statement in this post was honest or not.

 

[Aman777]

So there is no place in the bible where it talks about ETERNAL and TEMPORARY animals? You admit, then, that you're just making it up?

Isn't it a sin to add to the bible?

Not if the Holy Spirit is revealing things to the Christian. IF these things are true, they are irrefutable, and agree in every way, with every discovery of mankind. They do.

 

[Aman777]

Once again, I never mentioned the ToE in any of my posts. You seem to be responding to the wrong person.

It's probably because I'm in the creation-evolution forum. Perhaps you should look for a forum which more closely follows your thinking.

 

[Speedwell]

Not if the Holy Spirit is revealing things to the Christian. IF these things are true, they are irrefutable, and agree in every way, with every discovery of mankind. They do.

You appear to be the only Christian he is revealing these things to.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Not if the Holy Spirit is revealing things to the Christian. IF these things are true, they are irrefutable, and agree in every way, with every discovery of mankind.

So if they're refutable you're sinning? That's bad news for you....

They do.

No, they don't. Every single one of your bizarre claims has been refuted. Multiple times, by multiple people.

 

[Aman777]

And let's put this whole nonsense about his/their/its kind to bed one last time.

Genesis 1:24 "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle..."
Genesis 1:25 "And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind..."

Yet more evidence that your interpretation is nonsense. Now let's see if your final statement in this post was honest or not.

Gen 1:24 ¶ And God (Trinity) said, Let the earth (Hebrew-ground) bring forth the living creature after His kind, (Jesus kind) cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after His kind: (Jesus kind) and it was so.

The Father is speaking and here is the Son's action to physically form the creatures from the ground.

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Gen 1:25 And God (Trinity) made the beast of the earth after His kind, (Jesus/temporary kind) and cattle after Their kind, (Trinity-Eternal kind) and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His kind: (Jesus/temporary kind) and God saw that it was good.

God the Trinity made the beasts of the Earth (His temporary kind) AND cattle after THEIR (Trinity) kind or the eternal kind which will be in Heaven. Notice that God did NOT make the creeping things after THEIR kind showing that mosquitoes, snakes and creeping things were NOT made eternal and will NOT be in Heaven.

God's Truth is the Truth in every way IF you have the proper understanding.

 

[Speedwell]

Gen 1:24 ¶ And God (Trinity) said, Let the earth (Hebrew-ground) bring forth the living creature after His kind, (Jesus kind) cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after His kind: (Jesus kind) and it was so.

The Father is speaking and here is the Son's action to physically form the creatures from the ground.

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Gen 1:25 And God (Trinity) made the beast of the earth after His kind, (Jesus/temporary kind) and cattle after Their kind, (Trinity-Eternal kind) and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His kind: (Jesus/temporary kind) and God saw that it was good.

God the Trinity made the beasts of the Earth (His temporary kind) AND cattle after THEIR (Trinity) kind or the eternal kind which will be in Heaven. Notice that God did NOT make the creeping things after THEIR kind showing that mosquitoes, snakes and creeping things were NOT made eternal and will NOT be in Heaven.

God's Truth is the Truth in every way IF you have the proper understanding.

Thank goodness there is one person on Earth who has that understanding.

 

[Aman777]

You appear to be the only Christian he is revealing these things to.

Actually, there is a secret which unlocked the mysteries of the Bible for me. Genesis 1:1-Genesis 2:3 tells the complete History of God's 7 Day creation of the perfect Heaven. EVERY other verse in the Bible refers back to one of these 7 Days or Ages of the creation. The first 34 verses are an outline of ALL of the rest of the Bible.

We live today at Genesis 1:27 because God is STILL creating Adam/mankind in His Image, which is Spiritually in Christ. God will NOT stop creating until Heaven is filled at the end of the present 6th Day/Age. Then, God will rest or cease creating because His perfect Heaven will be finished or brought to perfection. Genesis 2:1

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Gen 1:24 ¶ And God (Trinity) said, Let the earth (Hebrew-ground) bring forth the living creature after His kind, (Jesus kind) cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after His kind: (Jesus kind) and it was so.

The Father is speaking and here is the Son's action to physically form the creatures from the ground.

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God (YHWH/Jesus) formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Gen 1:25 And God (Trinity) made the beast of the earth after His kind, (Jesus/temporary kind) and cattle after Their kind, (Trinity-Eternal kind) and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His kind: (Jesus/temporary kind) and God saw that it was good.

God the Trinity made the beasts of the Earth (His temporary kind) AND cattle after THEIR (Trinity) kind or the eternal kind which will be in Heaven. Notice that God did NOT make the creeping things after THEIR kind showing that mosquitoes, snakes and creeping things were NOT made eternal and will NOT be in Heaven.

God's Truth is the Truth in every way IF you have the proper understanding.

You have not explained the blindingly obvious discrepancy between verse 24 saying cattle should be "his kind" while verse 25 says cattle are "their kind". No handwaving, no dancing. A simple English explanation, please.

 

[Aman777]

You have not explained the blindingly obvious discrepancy between verse 24 saying cattle should be "his kind" while verse 25 says cattle are "their kind". No handwaving, no dancing. A simple English explanation, please.

Gen 1:25 And God (Trinity) made the beast of the earth after His kind, (Jesus/temporary kind) and cattle...after Their kind, (Trinity-Eternal kind) and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after His kind: (Jesus/temporary kind) and God saw that it was good.

God the invisible Spirit made the beast of the Earth AND cattle after Their Eternal kind, which means that they will be in Heaven, but He didn't make the creeping things Jesus made eternal, thus keeping them out of Heaven, and God saw that it was perfect. He made eternal beasts and cattle but not bugs. God the Trinity always creates Eternally. Amen?