Your Thoughts on Creation & Evolution

[Speedwell]

Nope, don't think that's the way it went at all, you took off after the attack on your evidence, something anyone can see happened.

I had not yet presented any evidence. I was still trying to explain to you what it was I was going to present evidence for.

 

[pitabread]

Nevermind.

ignore++

 

[Kenny'sID]

I had not yet presented any evidence. I was still trying to explain to you what it was I was going to present evidence for.

Please.

 

[Jimmy D]

I can't really make sense of you, your trying to hover between theory and fact and you just can't do that, it's one way or the other.

Not sure what you mean by wrong on what you said. Is that something that's relative to the argument, or some type of "look at me I'm right sometimes, you are wrong, and you need to acknowledge that" thing, something personal you seem to need?

Tell you what, instead of my going back to see what you're talking about because it is likely a complete waste of time, I'll concede to whatever it is and hopefully that will help us both out...you, for what you seem to need, and me so I don't have to spend the time looking it up....deal?

If so, yeah, you're right.

So are you going to continue to pretend that you don’t understand that in science a theory explains facts, or have you realised the the conversation has got to the point that you are looking increasingly foolish trying to deny it?

I suppose we’re making a bit of progress.

“A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.”

Scientific theory - Wikipedia

 

[DogmaHunter]

Sorry you feel that way.

And once again, as usual... one ear in, out the other.

I'm sorry you are unable to grasp such simple concepts.

 

[DogmaHunter]

If you're going to consider my honest replies as goading, the we'd best call it quits.

Try confusing the issues with someone else.

Try answering the question.
What is the definition of a scientific theory?

 

[Kenny'sID]

So are you going to continue to pretend that you don’t understand that in science a theory explains facts,

You point?

I can explain facts all day long, but that doesn't make evolution a fact.

Are you going to pretend it is?

 

[Kenny'sID]

And once again, as usual... one ear in, out the other.

I'm sorry you are unable to grasp such simple concepts.

More blame.

"If you don't believe our silly evolution facttheory, it's your fault."

Nothing no here.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Try answering the question.
What is the definition of a scientific theory?

I'll agree with whatever you want it to be/say it is...how's that?

Now, where did that get you? Did that make evolution a fact? you're clutching at straws here.

Would you like to sake a stab at proving evolution, or are you all just going to continue trying to place blame on anyone other than your own silly beliefs?

 

[Speedwell]

More blame.

"If you don't believe our silly evolution facttheory, it's your fault."

Nothing no here.

If you refuse to let any of us explain the theory to you so you will understand the evidence ("PROOF" as you like to call it) that is you fault.

Whether you believe any of it is up to you. Quite frankly, I think you're afraid you might, which is why you are being so unpleasant about it.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I'll agree with whatever you want it to be/say it is...how's that?

How's that? I'ld say: pretty unproductive.

Now, where did that get you?

Exactly nowhere, off course.... If you refuse to define the jargon you use, then conversation is futile.

Did that make evolution a fact? you're clutching at straws here.

Are germs a fact?

Would you like to sake a stab at proving evolution, or are you all just going to continue trying to place blame on anyone other than your own silly beliefs?

Scientific theories are never considered proven, as has been explained to you countless times.

 

[Kenny'sID]

If you refuse to let any of us explain the theory to you so you will understand the evidence ("PROOF" as you like to call it) that is you fault.

Whether you believe any of it is up to you. Quite frankly, I think you're afraid you might, which is why you are being so unpleasant about it.

IOW "Quite frankly, I think it's you"

You had your chance, and you took off when what you presented was ripped to shreds, and then you tried to blame your exit on something I had done, of course. If you don't believe me, go back and read it again...I saw it, you saw it, everyone saw it.

Do you want to try it again? Be my guest.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Scientific theories are never considered proven, as has been explained to you countless times.

And I've commented on that several times, so prove evolution or do not prove it and blame it on the fact it can't be proven and run a long.

Let me try to make this clearer. It appears to me you're saying it cannot be proven because science doesn't prove, and though I disagree what science does, it makes no difference what I or you think of that, I still expect proof, and I will never sit here and let you tell me I should not expect proof...never. What's more you really should know all that by now.

How many times do I have to repeat that. So, since I'm certain no one here is going to just concede and take responsibility for the fact they cannot prove it, FOR WHATEVER REASON, provable, not provable, you have an excuse or you don't have an excuse, none of that matters, I still expect proof, so it would seem to me we aren't going to get anywhere, or do you really think continuing to spout science proves nothing is going to make me not expect proof? You should know by now it will not, so what's wrong with you all,. let it go, for whatever the reason you cannot proof it. You basically admit that with your rules of science, so what are you doing?

So, for the umpteenth time, prove it or don't. Do you understand?

 

[Speedwell]

IOW "Quite frankly, I think it's you"

You had your chance, and you took off when what you presented was ripped to shreds, and then you tried to blame your exit on something I had done, of course. If you don't believe me, go back and read it again...I saw it, you saw it, everyone saw it.

Do you want to try it again? Be my guest.

How about giving me a post number for where you "ripped me to shreds" Since I am not aware of presenting you with any evidence, it will help me know what you are taking about.

 

[Ophiolite]

DogmaHunter, Speedwell, JimmyD, US Incognito and others. Kenny'sID's posting behaviour is classic, provocative trolling. The First Rule of Internet Forums - Don't Feed the Troll. There is sufficient material on hand for the objective lurker to see what's going on. Your work is done. My blood pressure has settled since I put him on Ignore.

 

[Kenny'sID]

How about giving me a post number for where you "ripped me to shreds" Since I am not aware of presenting you with any evidence, it will help me know what you are taking about.

Where *I* ripped you to shreds?

Now you know I didn't say that.

Did I distinguish what you presented, evidence or otherwise? Of course I didn't, so stop that.

Now rephrase your comment using nothing but reality, and I'll reply, that is, if it will still work using the actual facts.

 

[Kenny'sID]

The First Rule of Internet Forums - Don't Feed the Troll

And there you go.

If reffering to your adversaries as Trolls, floats your boat, thats fine, you al, sholuld all know but now that I exepecdt ebverything that goes wrong here to be mu faltso the Troll thing just kinda does just that, put it all on b=nme in one convenient shot.

And I agree and that's what I'm trying to tell you all, you can't/will not/science doesn't allow for it or whatever...present proof and as I made very very clear, I expect that, and always will, so why are we even having this conversation?

Haven't I already told a few of you to put me on ignore? Reality just isn't for some people, and if they can't stand the heat, well, you know. Personally, since I cannot put anyone on ignore in real life, I'm certainly not going to do it here, it's just too weird, but that's just me. For you all, I suggest you suit yourself, whatever works best for you.

 

[pitabread]

Reality just isn't for some people

Careful, you might have just exploded a few irony meters.

 

[VirOptimus]

DogmaHunter, Speedwell, JimmyD, US Incognito and others. Kenny'sID's posting behaviour is classic, provocative trolling. The First Rule of Internet Forums - Don't Feed the Troll. There is sufficient material on hand for the objective lurker to see what's going on. Your work is done. My blood pressure has settled since I put him on Ignore.

Indeed, he is not here for honest debate.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Careful, you might have just exploded a few irony meters.

And that goes right back to blaming it all on me, my reality is bogus and yours is just fine....it's automatic and goes without saying here.