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Or perhaps Peter Rabbit.I think that you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that. Perhaps you could start by reading A Universe from Nothing by Lawrence Krauss, The Grand Design by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow, and the last three chapters of Calculating the Cosmos by Ian Stewart.
Not at all. Why would I be trying to say original sin was the reason for the shared DNA? That’s not why the flood occurred because of original sin. Otherwise it would have happened long before it did.-_- I know the reason the bible gives for the flood, and that has nothing to do with whether or not there is physical evidence for the flood. If you are trying to imply that sin is the reason for the vertebrae problem humans experience, then you are stating that YHWH actually changed the design of humans to inflict more pain, meaning that modern human spines are NOT designed for bipedal movement but rather are designed to inflict pain with the only movement humans can do with any degree of comfort.
Because no matter what you do, the human spine at its healthiest is still a bad structure for bipedal movement. Glad to know you have abandoned the idea that you can promote it as being good for bipedal movement, though I can't say I approve of your half done explanation for why.
-_- if you are just going to wave away any bad physical traits as "because of the fall" I don't know why you wasted my time trying to defend human spines. But the fall isn't an adequate explanation unless you can actually demonstrate that it was a real event. And no, the bible itself doesn't accomplish that.
-_- also, it is immensely insulting that you thought the concept of the fall and sin was beyond me.
Which will require me to have faith in random creation from nothing?I think that you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that. Perhaps you could start by reading A Universe from Nothing by Lawrence Krauss, The Grand Design by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow, and the last three chapters of Calculating the Cosmos by Ian Stewart.
Sorry, but that’s your interpretation of scripture.I know you like to believe that--it sounds more important than the truth: If evolution is true it's only your interpretation of scripture which is false. No big deal for the rest of us.
I think that you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that. Perhaps you could start by reading A Universe from Nothing by Lawrence Krauss, The Grand Design by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow, and the last three chapters of Calculating the Cosmos by Ian Stewart.
I think that you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that. Perhaps you could start by reading A Universe from Nothing by Lawrence Krauss, The Grand Design by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow, and the last three chapters of Calculating the Cosmos by Ian Stewart.
Either everything was created by an almighty God, or everything just spontaneously developed “from absolutely nothing” “on its own” for “no apparent reason.” You honestly can’t see that even the possibility of a Creator is more logical thinking than “something from nothing, by nothing.”
Why do I need to account for the origin of a creator? The laws of thermodynamics state that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. So even science believes that energy would have no beginning or end. It is the Alpha and Omega, which is why God is spoken of as an invisible power from which all things originated. Energy is what makes us capable of thought.Because you still haven't addressed the core issue: namely the origin of everything. Invoking an arbitrary creator is simply a way of avoiding the issue of the origin of the universe. On top of that you now have to account for the origin and existence of said creator which you have already stated is a mystery.
So great, you've wound up in the exact place where we started. How is that more logical?
NOT invoking the creator is simply a way of avoiding the issue of the origin of the universe.Invoking an arbitrary creator is simply a way of avoiding the issue of the origin of the universe.
That satisfies me."Goddidit"
It satisfies a lot of us who have no issue with the findings and conclusions of science.
That's just bad theology, not bad science.Yes, proper findings and conclusions in scientific study are a wonderful blessing, up until the point we begin to question the existence of God instead of praying for the next insight.
NOT invoking the creator is simply a way of avoiding the issue of the origin of the universe.
What is it you want to know?Can you actually address the points I laid out in post #1807 though? Because if not then you really aren't bringing anything any more relevant to the table.
Agreed.It satisfies a lot of us who have no issue with the findings and conclusions of science.
That's just bad theology, not bad science.
Which will require me to have faith in random creation from nothing?
Even if we start at the point of a hot dense state, the hot dense state must itself have had a beginning.
Perhaps you could read and study the Bible first, and let the Lord establish the truth in your heart, then set sail on “Sea of Details.” You’ll never get lost that way.
I know you're not asking me, but I believe God has "easter eggs" embedded into His creation, and empowers scientists to find the right ones at the right time.Just curious… do you believe God plays no part at all, provides no guidance, in proper scientific findings and conclusions?
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