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Aman777

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do explain why most humans would end up with at least 1 vertebra looking nearly indistinguishable from that of a chimp before they die?

Because God sets traps to catch men. Pro 25:2 Looking like a Human does not make one a Human since it must be inherited from other Humans. We look like Chimps because our prehistoric ancestors looked like them. Humans are beings of Light, which Adam lost when he sinned. We regain our true image at the Rapture. Until then, Humans will continue to look like our prehistoric ancestors of flesh. Amen?
 
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but please, do explain why most humans would end up with at least 1 vertebra looking nearly indistinguishable from that of a chimp before they die?

I'm not sure you are ready yet to understand.
 
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I'm not sure you are ready yet to understand.
-_- what a non-answer. If you have one to give, give it, don't act like it is just too much for my mind to handle. It's extremely patronizing to do.
 
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Just a thought.
How an 1 of the 100,000 parts of improvements needed to for example the eye, all became beneficial for the survability? could not in the mix be a lot of erratical things? i mean how that tiny part of something that began to from passed to the next generation. Is the natural selection filter really that precise?. Also when the eye was complete evolution just stopped working there?.
If you think carefully on random mutation and evolution is just seems really not very viable.
 
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Just a thought.
How an 1 of the 100,000 parts of improvements needed to for example the eye, all became beneficial for the survability? could not in the mix be a lot of erratical things? i mean how that tiny part of something that began to from passed to the next generation. Is the natural selection filter really that precise?. Also when the eye was complete evolution just stopped working there?.
If you think carefully on random mutation and evolution is just seems really not very viable.
You have to do more than just "think." You have to study. All those questions you asked have been thoroughly studied and answered, many with mathematical back-up.
 
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You have to do more than just "think." You have to study. All those questions you asked have been thoroughly studied and answered, many with mathematical back-up.

I don't know if there is much material on that. When you know God evolution just falls apart, yes a topic for a different thread but i can't just ignore that. It is evolution or God...
 
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I don't know if there is much material on that. When you know God evolution just falls apart, yes a topic for a different thread but i can't just ignore that. It is evolution or God...
That is a false dichotomy. There s nothing science has discovered or will potentially discover which could disprove the existence of God. I suspect that your issue is not evolution v. God, but evolution v. your interpretation of Scripture.
 
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-_- what a non-answer. If you have one to give, give it, don't act like it is just too much for my mind to handle. It's extremely patronizing to do.
You first must be willing to accept the reason for the flood, which apparently you are not willing to consider.
 
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You have to do more than just "think." You have to study. All those questions you asked have been thoroughly studied and answered, many with mathematical back-up.
Ptolemy studied and backed up mathematically his interpretation of the solar system. Didn’t make it correct.
 
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You first must be willing to accept the reason for the flood, which apparently you are not willing to consider.
-_- I know the reason the bible gives for the flood, and that has nothing to do with whether or not there is physical evidence for the flood. If you are trying to imply that sin is the reason for the vertebrae problem humans experience, then you are stating that YHWH actually changed the design of humans to inflict more pain, meaning that modern human spines are NOT designed for bipedal movement but rather are designed to inflict pain with the only movement humans can do with any degree of comfort.

Because no matter what you do, the human spine at its healthiest is still a bad structure for bipedal movement. Glad to know you have abandoned the idea that you can promote it as being good for bipedal movement, though I can't say I approve of your half done explanation for why.

-_- if you are just going to wave away any bad physical traits as "because of the fall" I don't know why you wasted my time trying to defend human spines. But the fall isn't an adequate explanation unless you can actually demonstrate that it was a real event. And no, the bible itself doesn't accomplish that.


-_- also, it is immensely insulting that you thought the concept of the fall and sin was beyond me.
 
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Ptolemy studied and backed up mathematically his interpretation of the solar system. Didn’t make it correct.

Ptolemy was correct when he said that the planets were moving, and nearly correct when he said that they moved in circular orbits.
 
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Only if you don't understand evolution or the massive amount of evidence supporting it.



Several hundred million Christians would disagree with you.
https://biologos.org/about-us/

Evolution doesn't even make sense. Why you would believe a sofisticated machine got built with nothing by nothing. Just because yes? things like that never happens!! in real life. If the earth billons of years ago would exists on its own, it would not get life without someone intervining.
 
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Only if you don't understand evolution or the massive amount of evidence supporting it.



Several hundred million Christians would disagree with you.
https://biologos.org/about-us/
i mean that is evolution or God that made things. Anyway if a christian believe in evolution and christianity, evolution for him is false too, because he believes God designed life anyway...
 
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Only if you don't understand evolution or the massive amount of evidence supporting it.



Several hundred million Christians would disagree with you.
https://biologos.org/about-us/

If God is true then evolution is false, evolution has evidence in some parts, only that is wrong about things animals created/improving over time.
 
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If God is true then evolution is false,
Yes, indeed!

Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
 
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If God is true then evolution is false, evolution has evidence in some parts, only that is wrong about things animals created/improving over time.
I know you like to believe that--it sounds more important than the truth: If evolution is true it's only your interpretation of scripture which is false. No big deal for the rest of us.
 
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I know you like to believe that--it sounds more important than the truth: If evolution is true it's only your interpretation of scripture which is false. No big deal for the rest of us.

You are a christian? evolution almost say the universe do not have a creator, or at least animals and human, if animals and humans can be created becuase yes only then why not stars and planets too, i think humans are more complicated to make than planets and stars. God didn't even intervene. If you find God then it is something that contradicts itself a bit don't you think?
If God is true, in what God do you believe, that not created the universe?
 
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I know you like to believe that--it sounds more important than the truth: If evolution is true it's only your interpretation of scripture which is false. No big deal for the rest of us.
IF evolution is true.
 
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If the universe and life were uncaused, then everything just came into existence out of absolutely nothing. What kind of logic is that?

On the other hand, if it was all caused, it had to be created by something supernatural (God) outside the universe. Creation critics keep crying that it’s only faith, but Creation also seems like the only logical answer to me.
 
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