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français · Oct 8, 2006

the baha'is are a great religion. i really am impressed with it. and i read some writing from Bahu'llah [sp?] and it seems to me that the baha'i religion would be big if they wouldn't have presecuted them. because like bah'ullah would have to leave city after city, and he would talk to head officials, and then they would become baha'i, and so forth. i think that if he wouldn't have been jailed and oppressed, the bah'i religion could be a lot bigger then it is now. maybe not as big as christianity or islam of course, but still pretty big.

the baha'is accept Jesus as a perfect prophet, but not as the messiah. they believe that like every religions prophet is a true prophet.. jesus, mohammed, even buddha.. they're all prophets with different messages.

anyways i'm not baha'i, but i believe that is right.

LittleLambofJesus · Oct 8, 2006

i'm not messianic anymore, but...

a messianic jew is someone who is a Jew, but believes that Jesus was the Messiah.. However, they still use the Torah and the laws of the Torah, and celebrate Jewish holidays, and so forth.. But they also celebrate Chrsitmas, and use Chrsitian holidays. They are known as "Christian Jews" very commonly, or sometimes "jews for jesus" or something.

the only major difference between a messianic jews and a christian is a messianic jew still believes in the laws of the Old Testiment.

Originally Posted by dawiyd

Is your mother Jewish?

kjf512 said:
nope.. i come from a strong Catholic family.

Then why the Messianic scroll? Do you realize there are some of those that debunct the Apostle Paul as the Muslims do?

I don't know how many, but you can read testimonies of christians" that turned to Judaism because of this. I am sure the Muslims also love this site.

http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/paulthe.htm

We have seen that Paul's picture of God's sovereignty doesn't exist in the Scriptures. We might call this the DNA evidence against him (Doctrine Not Accurate). It is an important part of the case against him. But it is by no means all the evidence there is against his supposed authority. There is more than enough evidence to suggest that he was not even a true apostle of Yahshua let alone the greatest apostle who ever lived as he is so often eulogized.
There are a number of historical facts, quotations from Paul, and quotations from Yahshua recorded in the New Testament that leave us with some quite compelling evidence against his apostleship being recognized in heaven.
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I just found your site. As a minister who left the "church" to find the truth, I would like to say, "keep up the good work". Though the Truth is hard to handle at times, it must be spoken. Stay Close to HIM.

I, too, thought I was blaspheming God's word because I found Paul to go against many of Yahshua's messages. He seems to preach the EXACT OPPOSITE of what God said regarding the tenants of belief in the one true God, i.e., The Sabbath, circumcision, and unclean foods, to name a few. Too many do not see the obvious; that the evil one has used men to create the mirror opposite of true worship. Too many also do not see the end result of what Christianity will become. Thank you for a truly visionary piece of work.

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français · Oct 8, 2006

well i've been doing research on religions, and i thought messianic judaism was the right way to go [as recently as a few days ago loll] but now i'm leaning more towards my christian faith again.

and the jews reject anything that comes after the torah, whether it be paul, or anyone. :-/

samsonknight · Oct 8, 2006

well the bible says only thought the holy spirit will you beleive. and no one can beleive if the holy spirit has not come to them.

LittleLambofJesus · Oct 8, 2006

kjf512 said:
well i've been doing research on religions, and i thought messianic judaism was the right way to go [as recently as a few days ago loll] but now i'm leaning more towards my christian faith again.

and the jews reject anything that comes after the torah, whether it be paul, or anyone. :-/

Have you ever heard how the Orthodox Jews view them?

I won't say anything here about it here as this is not what this thread is about, but the Orthodox Jews have their own Biblical views of the OT/OC/Tananch and it is not the Christian view.

But in any case, I don't look at "religions" as God does not judge someone by their "religion", but by their own individuals deeds and Heart. Just my humble view of course.

Reve 20:13 and the sea did give up those dead in it, and the death and the hades did give up the dead in them, and they were judged, each one according to their works;

vedickings · Oct 8, 2006

I've always been into being healthy, and so got into Yoga and Ayurveda, which lead me to Hinduism.

9Harmony · Oct 8, 2006

samsonknight said:
do you mean you accept jesus as the messiah? now?

yes.

i accept that He has returned as promised.

with a new name as promised. (Rev. 3-12)

He proclaimed this in 1863 but the clergy of His day declared Him a heretic and He spent the next 40 years in exile and imprisonment, and suffered tremendously. They thought they could extinguish His infant Faith, but nothing can thwart the Will of God.

history has a way of repeating itself.

Fuzzy · Oct 8, 2006

samsonknight said:
because i would like to know how your religion has changed your ife and stuff

There was a sense of community at my first Beltain festival that I never felt at a Christian service.

mnbvcxz87 · Oct 8, 2006

How it's changed my life well, when there are questions you have which you don't know the answer to, they nag on your mind. Why this, and why that. Now I have answers for them all, so that is a new outlook on life, with moral and practical solutions to real problems too. The problem is one man or one woman can't change much, which is why I'm here now.

LittleLambofJesus · Oct 8, 2006

vedickings said:
I've always been into being healthy, and so get into Yoga and Ayurveda, which lead me to Hinduism.

Can't one practice Yoga and prayer and still be In Christ.

(Young) Psalms 119:48 And I lift up my hands unto Thy commands, That I have loved, And I do meditate on Thy statutes!

Daniel 10:14 and I have come to cause thee to understand that which doth happen to thy people in the latter end of the days, for yet the vision [is] after days.

1 Timothy 4:1 And the Spirit expressly speaketh, that in latter times shall certain fall away from the Faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and teachings of demons, 2 in hypocrisy speaking lies, being seared in their own conscience,

vedickings · Oct 8, 2006

LittleLambofJesus said:
Can't one practice Yoga and prayer and still be In Christ.

Yes they can indeed!!

Its not about what name of God you follow, its about how much we practice Gods words that matters, as Gods words are about the same in all religions

dawiyd · Oct 8, 2006

kjf512 said:
nope.. i come from a strong Catholic family.

Then in no shape or form can you think you are Jewish.

dawiyd · Oct 8, 2006

kjf512 said:
well i've been doing research on religions, and i thought messianic judaism was the right way to go [as recently as a few days ago loll] but now i'm leaning more towards my christian faith again.

and the jews reject anything that comes after the torah, whether it be paul, or anyone. :-/

No we don't. We accept the Talmud and Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi. Also Chronicles, Psalms, Job, Proverbs, Ruth, Song of Songs, Ecclesiastes, Lamentations, Esther, Daniel, Nehemiah.

samsonknight · Oct 8, 2006

mnbvcxz87 said:
How it's changed my life well, when there are questions you have which you don't know the answer to, they nag on your mind. Why this, and why that. Now I have answers for them all, so that is a new outlook on life, with moral and practical solutions to real problems too. The problem is one man or one woman can't change much, which is why I'm here now.

i have a question for you. who are you? its been on my mind

LittleLambofJesus · Oct 8, 2006

Originally Posted by kjf512

well i've been doing research on religions, and i thought messianic judaism was the right way to go [as recently as a few days ago loll] but now i'm leaning more towards my christian faith again.

and the jews reject anything that comes after the torah, whether it be paul, or anyone. :-/

dawiyd said:
No we don't. We accept the Talmud and Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi. Also Chronicles, Psalms, Job, Proverbs, Ruth, Song of Songs, Ecclesiastes, Lamentations, Esther, Daniel, Nehemiah.

Ezra also?

Ezra 3: 12 But many of the priests and Levites and heads of the fathers' [houses,] old men who had seen the first temple, wept with a loud voice when the foundation of this temple was laid before their eyes. Yet many shouted aloud for joy, 13 so that the people could not discern the noise of the shout of Joy from the noise of the Weeping of the people, for the people shouted with a loud shout, and the sound was heard afar off.

Matthew 24:1 Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple [Malachi 3], and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple [#2411].

Reve 19:3 Again they said, "Alleluia! Her smoke rises up forever and ever!" 4 And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sat on the throne, saying, "Amen! Alleluia!"

dawiyd · Oct 8, 2006

Ezra too, missed it out. Kudos for noticing.

mnbvcxz87 · Oct 8, 2006

i have a question for you. who are you? its been on my mind

just me...

Snowbunny · Oct 8, 2006

I am Catholic just because I am... if that makes any sense lol...

How come it seems like unless something traumatic happened to you or you changed religions or something society treats you like that is somehow more valid than those of us who just were born into a certain faith and are fulfilled in it...

TrevorKamal · Oct 8, 2006

baha'is accept Jesus as a perfect prophet, but not as the messiah.

I think it would be closer to say that Baha'is don't see the two terms as contradictory.

LittleLambofJesus · Oct 8, 2006

baha'is accept Jesus as a perfect prophet, but not as the messiah.

TrevorKamal said:
I think it would be closer to say that Baha'is don't see the two terms as contradictory.

That makes me think they do not actually read or understand our Bible and why we have a hardtime in getting the Orthodox Jews to believe Christ was the Messiah. [the Muslims also have tried to tell them]

The Bible is about a kingdom of Priests and Kings and both were anointed in the Bible.

Ezekiel 37:22 "and I will make Them one Nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one King shall be king over them all; they shall no longer be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again.

http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/priest/RP1.htm
The Royal Priesthood Part 1 of 33

In the Bible there are a great number of words, phrases, and expressions that are especially significant in the creative and redemptive plan of God. One of the first such phrases was uttered by God Himself before ever He brought mankind into being when He said, "Let us make man in our image." This was the purpose of God condensed into about as few words as can be used. Then there were the inspired words of Isaiah when he prophesied, "Unto us a child is born; unto us a Son is given." Connected with this were the words of the angels unto the shepherds, "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord," and the proclamation of the Voice from heaven at the Jordan river, "This is My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased."

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