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Your opinion of UFOs, ESP, poltergeists, etc?
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<blockquote data-quote="Sanoy" data-source="post: 72639100" data-attributes="member: 397693"><p>If it's so unlikely that science will be able to create life from scratch why assume it is due to biochemistry...apart from presupposition?</p><p></p><p>I think the spirit might nudge us toward the presence of another spirit for example, or nudge us toward a better direction of life. Your intuition is correct, the spirit's nudgeings are very minute and easy to miss.</p><p></p><p>The law of identity states that two things are the same thing when and only when everything that is true of one thing is also true of another thing. So if this 'neuronal cluster', is the same thing as my mind then everything that is true of mind will also be true of the 'neuronal cluster'. Can you state that this is the case? Feel free to swap out 'neuronal cluster' with a designation you feel fits.</p><p></p><p>I would say it's more likely the idea of a soul and the varying religions come from the innate concept of moral values and duties. That one will be held accountable for their actions.</p><p></p><p>What time it is and the device that reports what time it is are not the same thing. That will be the problem with just about any analogy you present as it will be paradoxical. Think about it. You cannot come up with analogy where there are two things that are identical and you take only one away. The closest that one can get would be an equivocation of grammar or syntax.</p><p></p><p>If it's up to me to determine what an individual is then what an individual is not objective. But that is contrary to the very scientific claim you are trying to make, that the individual is objectively material.</p><p></p><p>(continued due to word count)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sanoy, post: 72639100, member: 397693"] If it's so unlikely that science will be able to create life from scratch why assume it is due to biochemistry...apart from presupposition? I think the spirit might nudge us toward the presence of another spirit for example, or nudge us toward a better direction of life. Your intuition is correct, the spirit's nudgeings are very minute and easy to miss. The law of identity states that two things are the same thing when and only when everything that is true of one thing is also true of another thing. So if this 'neuronal cluster', is the same thing as my mind then everything that is true of mind will also be true of the 'neuronal cluster'. Can you state that this is the case? Feel free to swap out 'neuronal cluster' with a designation you feel fits. I would say it's more likely the idea of a soul and the varying religions come from the innate concept of moral values and duties. That one will be held accountable for their actions. What time it is and the device that reports what time it is are not the same thing. That will be the problem with just about any analogy you present as it will be paradoxical. Think about it. You cannot come up with analogy where there are two things that are identical and you take only one away. The closest that one can get would be an equivocation of grammar or syntax. If it's up to me to determine what an individual is then what an individual is not objective. But that is contrary to the very scientific claim you are trying to make, that the individual is objectively material. (continued due to word count) [/QUOTE]
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