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Angels have the "Scripture of Truth" written on tablets in heaven, to read and know what will befall the sons of men, from the beginning to the end. Gabriel showed Daniel what was written in the Scripture of Truth concerning Daniel's people from then to the end. What the angel showed Daniel, Daniel wrote for us, in Daniel 11 and 12; but first, the angel read those things in the Scripture of Truth, in heaven.

Dan 10:21 But I will shew thee that which is noted/written/inscribed in the scripture of truth: one binds with me in these things, Michael your prince.

-Michael had just come to aid Gabriel in "binding" the heavenly power -the prince of Persia- so that Prince would obey what was written in the Scripture of Truth and loose Israel, to return to her land. After that heavenly Prince was "bound" by those two sons of God, then the earthly King, Cyrus, of Persia, let Israel go.

The heavenly tablets were seen by Enoch, in heaven, and they were written for the angels to read.

 
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The history of the flood from Noah's viewpoint is written by Moses [using books of the patriarchs] in the Book of Jasher. Because Moses already wrote it in the "Upright Record =Jasher, there was no reason to repeat all the info. Moses redacts the accounts in Genesis that he gives more fully in Jasher. "Behold, is it not written in the Book of Jasher!".
The flood is described by Enoch as the first consumation of sin on earth, and the second will be the great tribulation, as Enoch first prophesied.
Jasher chapters 4,5 and 6 descrbe the flood, with the details added.

http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/jasher/home.html
Noah preached with Methusaleh for 120 years [a sign of the 120 Jubilee years of this creation from that time, before the melting of the elements of this creation and the regeneration of the heavens and the earth].

If the men had repented, God would not have sent the flood, preached Noah and Methusaleh. And the watchers were to be chained and their sons destroyed, even if the sons of men had repented, for the judgment was already decreed for the nephillim and their fathers -the fallen angels. Enoch describes that in chapters 14 and 15. The Ark was not intended to take anyone other than Noah and his sons and their wives and the animals by the pairs God sent to them, and if the men had repented, the flood would not have come.
Five years before the flood came, Lamech died and Noah and his sons began building the Ark, on earth, while the angels in heaven built a type of the Ark of the Everlasting Covenant, in heaven [states the writings of 1 Enoch]. When they finished the Ark, God sent the beasts and fowl to them to choose the seven pairs of clean and and two pairs of unclean.
All the righteous died before the flood, so that they would not see the destruction of their families and loved ones. All but the "elect" [Noah and his family] who would keep seed alive on the earth for the promised Son of Man to come through, who would ransom the earth and the lost sons of Adam ["whosoever will" can be ransomed by His atonement].

Noah's prayer in the flood is used by David, in 2 Samuel 22:5-25 [?], but the translators lacked the insight of where that is from, so it is lacking in it's translation from the Hebrew.

Moses even redacts Noah's account, in Jasher, which he uses -had and read, as David's Psalm reveals- but he redacts it even more in the Genesis record.
 
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I definitely don't believe in a local flood but I do believe in a young earth. The flood of Noah's time was a global flood and we have evidence of this in all the floor stories in various cultures throughout the world.
 
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