Young people being provactive.

[Steezie]

I can remember from my youth the silly photos we made in those photo cabins. Not very different from the facebook or myspace pictures you find on the web today.

I think this is the main difference: the web. Not the behaviour of youths, but the publicity that it gets.

This function of the internet is rather new, and we as a society are still learning how to cope with that. We cannot go back.

I have to agree, people taking racy photos of themselves isnt new at all but the web has made it easier to SEE those photos and it's degraded their impact on us because we CAN see them whereas before it was something so taboo you didnt show ANYONE.

Honestly I could care less what other people do with a camera. Shes 18, she can take whatever pictures of herself she wants.

 

[Verv]

Your niece is influenced by the dead culture of the West and thus is surrounded by a community of young people which have no concept of morality other than the occasional hints at environmentalism or pacifism to some extent.

I spent most of Saturday night speaking to atheist 17/18 year olds, one of which had self-mutilation scars running from her lower left arm up to her shoulderblade.

Parents think they are equipping their kids with some attempt at morality only to find that it does not translate over because the environment is impure.

 

[Kharak]

Your niece is influenced by the dead culture of the West and thus is surrounded by a community of young people which have no concept of morality other than the occasional hints at environmentalism or pacifism to some extent.

I'm glad you can read minds. Oh, wait! Difference in the understanding of morality does not equal immorality. It's an arrogant thing, to claim the morality of millions when you are hardly in the position to do so with any individual at all. I believe you are being blatantly immoral for making a sweeping judgment like a child: That the morality or lack thereof that you alone gather from media or your assumptons must be the actual thing. But maybe your assumptions of whatever dead culture are incorrect? Is it not better that the racism and sexism of the 50's lie dead. That the eugenics movement of the early 20th century lie beaten? Or shall we return to the days in which the monarchies of old were as legitimate as the pointless wars that were fought for equally pointless aims?

Good riddance to the inequity and barbarism of yesteryears. Your "Spartan" societies died out, and they will stay dead or get another shot to the head like they received in turn and deserved.

I spent most of Saturday night speaking to atheist 17/18 year olds, one of which had self-mutilation scars running from her lower left arm up to her shoulderblade.

You've met a handful of the human beings on the Earth. Congratulations: I'm leaping with excitement. Here's your nice shiny medal . . . Just kidding, you still have 6.2 billion to go before you get the "Golden Sticker Award for Know-it-Alls". The Atheists and Agnostics may cover only a few million, but you better get on it! You'll have better luck with the Neo-Pagans, but they're an odd bunch. That is, provided you don't die en-route while new and interesting people are born and you try to define their lives for them.

Parents think they are equipping their kids with some attempt at morality only to find that it does not translate over because the environment is impure.

And you can read the minds of parents too? Delightful . . .

 

[Jade Margery]

It should be noted, the OP didn't say her niece was in the photos specifically, just that some of her friends were. We do not know until she posts again if that is the case.

 

[Verv]

I'm glad you can read minds. Oh, wait! Difference in the understanding of morality does not equal immorality. It's an arrogant thing, to claim the morality of millions when you are hardly in the position to do so with any individual at all. I believe you are being blatantly immoral for making a sweeping judgment like a child: That the morality or lack thereof that you alone gather from media or your assumptons must be the actual thing. But maybe your assumptions of whatever dead culture are incorrect? Is it not better that the racism and sexism of the 50's lie dead. That the eugenics movement of the early 20th century lie beaten? Or shall we return to the days in which the monarchies of old were as legitimate as the pointless wars that were fought for equally pointless aims?

Good riddance to the inequity and barbarism of yesteryears. Your "Spartan" societies died out, and they will stay dead or get another shot to the head like they received in turn and deserved.

History is not linear; history is cyclical. Humanity does not improve their morality but merely lengthens their lives and maximizes their capacity for killing.

Humans are basic creatures who act and react to the environments they are given.

When given overly conservative environments they move towards liberalism, and vice versa.

Tomorrow belongs to me... And the next day to you, I guess, if you want to press the issue.

You've met a handful of the human beings on the Earth. Congratulations: I'm leaping with excitement. Here's your nice shiny medal . . . Just kidding, you still have 6.2 billion to go before you get the "Golden Sticker Award for Know-it-Alls". The Atheists and Agnostics may cover only a few million, but you better get on it! You'll have better luck with the Neo-Pagans, but they're an odd bunch. That is, provided you don't die en-route while new and interesting people are born and you try to define their lives for them.

I am a know-it-all? I was unaware. I am sorry if you get that from me.

I speak with alternative people frequently and I think I know something of the scene as I have been in it since 1996. I understand some ideas.

And you can read the minds of parents too? Delightful . . .

I have spoken with enough people to make generalizations on the things I ahve observed.

Please correct me when I make an error.

 

[MoonLancer]

I spent most of Saturday night speaking to atheist 17/18 year olds, one of which had self-mutilation scars running from her lower left arm up to her shoulderblade.

yeah antidotal evidence can be found for both sides. the stories i could dig up on Christians would make your skin crawl and your bones rot.

History is not linear; history is cyclical. Humanity does not improve their morality but merely lengthens their lives and maximizes their capacity for killing.

does this mean that Christians are going to burn people alive again?

 

[OdwinOddball]

I spent most of Saturday night speaking to atheist 17/18 year olds, one of which had self-mutilation scars running from her lower left arm up to her shoulderblade.

Please tell us why these two are connected in any defined way? Atheist & being a cutter?


I've known a cutter as well. My sons last girlfriend. But she wasn't an atheist, she was a Methodist who attended church every week, was in the youth group, and helped run the daycare during evening services. So by the logic used in your above post, her being a fairly devout Christian must be tied into her cutting.

 

[Kharak]

History is not linear; history is cyclical. Humanity does not improve their morality but merely lengthens their lives and maximizes their capacity for killing.

History is neither. History has nothing to do with the study of morality. Not to mention that I have not killed anyone recently.

Humans are basic creatures who act and react to the environments they are given.

This does not explain your reasoning that 'all others' are becoming an immoral mass that you alone have been able to generalize.

When given overly conservative environments they move towards liberalism, and vice versa.

Given that liberalism means to champion individual freedom (unlike what others may think), there has been a steady drive towards liberalism since the Industrial Revolution. The United States, in fact, is often to believed to be the world's first liberal nation in this respect. And no, it does not mean socialist or democrat.

I am a know-it-all? I was unaware. I am sorry if you get that from me.

See following quote.

I have spoken with enough people to make generalizations on the things I ahve observed.

Again: There are 6.2 billion humans and you have met a small sample that is biased by your own short span of experiences, and you assume the following. . .

Your niece is influenced by the dead culture of the West and thus is surrounded by a community of young people which have no concept of morality other than the occasional hints at environmentalism or pacifism to some extent.

Which is an assumption. Your coloring all others immoral without information, simply because 'you know' that they are. The only way, in which you could, is if you somehow read minds.

 

[nhisname]

I've noticed on my neice's Facebook account that she posts a lot of photos that are quite provactive..Photos taken of her boyfriend and girlfriends in provactive positions(kissing each other, poking tongues out) and licking each other's faces and biting each other's cheeks.
My neice didn't even mind her female friend licking her boyfriend's face....

She is 18 years of age.
I've also noticed girls having their profile photos taken with other girls kissing each other and pouting provactively.
Is this a phase or something more serious?
My neice made a commitment to Christ about 3 years ago.

I remember when I was young we took special care not to touch other people, unless we were hugging them. We took care to respect our bodies.

I see this with very young children too - as young as 10.

I'm most concerned. I addressed this concern with someone and they said, "I had to move with the times".

Even if these young people are doing this out of innocence, isn't this a serious matter?

Any thoughts?

In my opinion this is inappropriate behavior and very unbecoming for an 18 year old lady. The Lord tells us not to be caught up in the foolishness of the world but to be wise in all we do and in whatever we do, we are to do it for the glory of the Lord. You might sent her a private note and tell her, she is not represening the Lord in her actions on face book.

 

[HighwayMan]

isn't acting like a tool what facebook is for?

 

[Jade Margery]

isn't acting like a tool what facebook is for?

I think you mean 'stalking'.

 

[LittleNipper]

The fact is that all this stuff posted on the Internet, is there from here to the day there is no more Internet. If kids think they may just wish to be a respected grown-up member of the community, they may just want to keep such antics to a minimum --- or they maybe haunted by some silly past to the day they die...

 

[quatona]

The fact is that all this stuff posted on the Internet, is there from here to the day there is no more Internet. If kids think they may just wish to be a respected grown-up member of the community, they may just want to keep such antics to a minimum --- or they maybe haunted by some silly past to the day they die...

I´ll take the juvenile stupidity of posting fun pics over the nonsense that some people you´d expect to already have grown up post on the internet in all seriousness any day.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I spent most of Saturday night speaking to atheist 17/18 year olds, one of which had self-mutilation scars running from her lower left arm up to her shoulderblade.

And I spent 10 months in a classroom with a devout Christian in the front row who wore a gaudy watchband to hide the scar from her suicide attempt.

Your point?