Britain recieves karmic justice for 400 years of colonialism with another 400 years of embarassing Big Sister decline.
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Can you think of a more ironic form of justice unto Cecil Rhodes, than telling him in less than 200 years Britishers would be thrown in jail for making "racially insensitive" remarks?
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The only free speech that should be illegal is that which outright advocates people to kill other people or explains, organizes, etc. how to do as much.
Essentially: you shouldn't be able to advocate the murder of other people...
Making a racist statement should be entirely legal; making a sexist statement, an anti-gay statement, an anti-straight or an anti-Christian or even an anti-Verv statement should be legal.
You should be able to say:
"I hate Verv and I wish that he would die."
You shouldn't be able to say:
"Let us organize to kill Verv or do some form of bodily harm."
Essentially: you shouldn't be able to advocate the murder of other people...
Making a racist statement should be entirely legal; making a sexist statement, an anti-gay statement, an anti-straight or an anti-Christian or even an anti-Verv statement should be legal.
You should be able to say:
"I hate Verv and I wish that he would die."
You shouldn't be able to say:
"Let us organize to kill Verv or do some form of bodily harm."
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Still trying to figure out what the problem is. If you commit a crime, why does it matter what medium is used to commit the crime? And, if "inciting racial hatred" is a crime in the UK (it shouldn't be, but that is a different issue), then why does it matter whether a person does it on FB, Twitter, or standing in the middle of the street?
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Well, for starters you can question whether the statements were really meant to 'incite racial hatred'. Reading them, he seems to be insulting everyone just as crudely as he can, and it doesn't really seem like race is the driving factor here. Just to be insulting and obnoxious. Besides, to 'incite', don't you have to be encouraging others to act in a similar fashion?
But what's really behind this is the nebulous question of what on the internet is personal and what is public. If he had said these things outloud to a friend of his, nothing would have happened. If he had said them on his twitter account but not many people were following him, nothing would have happened. If his twitter account had been private, nothing would have happened.
So does the fact that his twitter account was public and his comments went viral really make a difference? Is the severity of this crime based on how much OTHER people pay attention to it?
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Blind post: did anyone explain that free speech in the UK is different than free speech is in the US?
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The person who posted on Facebook is insensitive and cruel. The man almost died and this is what the person can say. I don't think he should go to jail because they are many who have racists thoughts BUT do not verbalise them.
Only the power of God can change a racist. It is his choice whether to hate or not. MY QUESTION TO YOU DO YOU THINK THE POSTER SHOULD POST THE RACIST REMARK. You seem only to be considering the fact that he is in jail.
It is interesting that the courts will jail a person for something like this and allow people to murder unborn children.
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The essence of a debate is almost never "what is," but rather it comes down to "what should be."
It is quite clear that the UK is playing with the idea of arresting people with undesirable beliefs... And they call themselves a free society.
Is that right?
This is what the debate is about. This is where a good discussion happens.
We are not a fact finding committee.
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Admittedly the fact that he chose to put it on the internet does matter, at least a little. It's one thing to say it in your home or among your friends - it's another to post it somewhere public, where thousands if not millions of people will read it.Jade Margery said:
That said, I still don't think posting on the internet is quite as bad as yelling racist remarks in the street. At least you know the poster can't physically attack you.
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