You all need to stop.

Wiccan_Child · Jul 20, 2007

Oh.
My.
God.

This has gone on for eight (8) pages.

Eight.

I think my irony meter just exploded, liquified, reformed, and exploded again.

Uphill Battle, I suddenly understand your name.

Uphill Battle · Jul 20, 2007

Wiccan_Child said:
Oh.
My.
God.

This has gone on for eight (8) pages.

Eight.

I think my irony meter just exploded, liquified, reformed, and exploded again.

Uphill Battle, I suddenly understand your name.

mine too.

Uphill Battle · Jul 20, 2007

UberLutheran said:
Too bad I don't know where he lives.

After what he's been through with the fundies on this board, I'd ask him to come over and have some coffee and a piece of freshly-baked rhubarb pie.

I'll take the pie. I don't drink coffee.

UL said:
There's just something about coffee and rhubarb pie when we need to commiserate.

I'm not so certain we could commiserate. I'm a "fundie" myself. The difference is, I'm not a placard waving crusader, nor have I made it my lifes mission to point out the sins of others.

UL said:
Well at least now he knows what a lot of us have been through on this board: the hypocrisy of those who claim to be "loving the sinner and hating the sin" which includes ridicule, put-downs, haughtiness, self-righteousness, smug superiority, fabrications and occasionally outright lies, and a willingness to use the Bible as a weapon to destroy anybody who does not follow the fundamentalist party line.

I guess so. With respect though, UL, I haven't seen very charitable conduct the other way either.

ScottBot · Jul 20, 2007

Uphill Battle said:
mine too.

Meanie.

WashedBytheSon · Jul 20, 2007

Uphill Battle said:
I'm not so certain we could commiserate. I'm a "fundie" myself. The difference is, I'm not a placard waving crusader, nor have I made it my lifes mission to point out the sins of others.

It's not about pointing out the sins of others. This part of the forum is about homosexuality and in society right now, there is a big hoo-ha about homosexual rights. Christians are not going to remain silent. It's not as if we think the sin of homosexuality is worse than others, it's that homosexuality is the topic at hand. If adultery or whatever else was the topic at hand, you'd have just as many people talking about how it is sinful.

Uphill Battle · Jul 20, 2007

A V O said:
Meanie.

you bet your bippy.

Uphill Battle · Jul 20, 2007

WashedBytheSon said:
It's not about pointing out the sins of others. This part of the forum is about homosexuality and in society right now, there is a big hoo-ha about homosexual rights. Christians are not going to remain silent. It's not as if we think the sin of homosexuality is worse than others, it's that homosexuality is the topic at hand. If adultery or whatever else was the topic at hand, you'd have just as many people talking about how it is sinful.

somehow, I doubt that.

IamRedeemed · Jul 20, 2007

I don't know why you are angry, but I am not surprised that you bowed out of the conversation. Everyone so far that has flown accusations, and has shot the messengers and have been asked to prove their allegations have copped out as well, and have played the martyr card. In addition, you also managed to cop out of giving the lessons, how convenient.

Uphill Battle said:
That's it, I'm done.

Uphill Battle · Jul 20, 2007

IamRedeemed said:
I don't know why you are angry, but I am not surprised that you bowed out of the conversation. Everyone so far that has flown accusations, and has shot the messengers and have been asked to prove their allegations have copped out as well, and have played the martyr card. In addition, you also managed to cop out of giving the lessons, how convenient.

I'm just sick of listening to your persecution complex.

Read the op again.

Did I single out any one person? no. I did not. However, you felt it neccessary to defend yourself, as if I had attacked YOU and it was all about YOU.

Personally, I find that kind of telling. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. - Hamlet III ii, 239

You want a lesson? look in the bible and see what Jesus did with sinners.

IamRedeemed · Jul 20, 2007

I do not have a persecution complex. You accused, I asked for proof, you did not back up your claim, end of story. One does not have to read the OP to see that this is true, one only needs to read our exchange (yours and my conversation), to see that what I have said is true. You claimed to have the keys to success in doing this "the right way".

There are several of us waiting for you to demonstrate this.

Uphill Battle said:
I'm just sick of listening to your persecution complex.

Read the op again.

Did I single out any one person? no. I did not. However, you felt it neccessary to defend yourself, as if I had attacked YOU and it was all about YOU.

Personally, I find that kind of telling. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. - Hamlet III ii, 239

You want a lesson? look in the bible and see what Jesus did with sinners.

Uphill Battle · Jul 20, 2007

IamRedeemed said:
I do not have a persecution complex. You accused, I asked for proof, you did not back up your claim, end of story. One does not have to read the OP to see that this is true, one only needs to read our interaction, to see that what I have said is true.

show me in the OP where I said :"Hey, I am Redeemed is guilty of this."

IamRedeemed · Jul 20, 2007

Again, please direct your attention to OUR DIALOGUE. Yours and my exchange.

And we are still waiting for you, who claims to have the key to success to teach us how to do it, "the right way."

Uphill Battle said:
show me in the OP where I said :"Hey, I am Redeemed is guilty of this."

brightmorningstar · Jul 20, 2007

Dear Wiccan_Child,

Oh.
My.
God.

???? Dont you mean goddesses?

Uphill Battle · Jul 20, 2007

IamRedeemed said:
Again, please direct your attention to OUR DIALOGUE. Yours and my exchange.

And we are still waiting for you, who claims to have the key to success to teach us how to do it, "the right way."

Not my fault if you personlized it. (again, I find that telling.)

I already did.

Love instead of hate. Mercy instead of condemnation. Recognition of your own spiritual poverty. Avoid seeking out the sin in others, and ignoring your own.

Uphill Battle · Jul 20, 2007

brightmorningstar said:
Dear Wiccan_Child,
???? Dont you mean goddesses?

there is both, in Wicca, if I'm not mistaken.

UberLutheran · Jul 20, 2007

Uphill Battle -- now you've got a good idea of what Jesus went through.

When Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," -- I'm really surprised someone didn't cast a stone!

I guess they just waited until the CF/Faith/Theology/Christian Philosophy & Ethics/Debates on Homosexuality Forum was created so they'd have a big pile of stones.

Anyway, have a piece of

.

Would you like vanilla ice cream with that?

brightmorningstar · Jul 20, 2007

Sorry can I take a check? Doesn't the NT scripture say we will die in our sins? Did Jesus not teach this.
The issue is are we promoting a sin we will die in? I think so. Some may not but its kind of core to our faith. I think we have two significantly enough religions here and the historic apostlic one which doesnt claim to hate or judge is being accused of judgeing and hate by the other.
I dont expect to answer to men, but to Jesus, therefore what men see as hate and judgement is not what I have to worry about, what I have to be concerned with is answering to Jesus.

IamRedeemed · Jul 20, 2007

Okay Uphill....as long as you believe what your saying, I guess that is all that matters, even though the reality is verifiable.

Anyone who reads yours and my dialogue specifically will see the specific allegations you spoke directly to me about me, and I asked you to post proof thereof which you neglected to do, which personally I find very telling actually and I am sure others will too.

We are all still waiting also, now that we have been rebuked and you seem to have the corner on "the right way" to watch and learn by your superior example. So, anytime you are ready to oblige and put your money where your mouth is, we are ready to pay full attention.

Uphill Battle said:
Not my fault if you personlized it. (again, I find that telling.)

I already did.

Love instead of hate. Mercy instead of condemnation. Recognition of your own spiritual poverty. Avoid seeking out the sin in others, and ignoring your own.

Floatingaxe · Jul 20, 2007

Uphill Battle said:
there is both, in Wicca, if I'm not mistaken.

Ah, but there isn't in real life! Cartoonland is down the street.

Uphill Battle · Jul 20, 2007

IamRedeemed said:
Okay Uphill....as long as you believe what your saying, I guess that is all that matters, even though the reality is verifiable.

Anyone who reads yours and my dialogue specifically will see the specific allegations you spoke directly to me about me, and I asked you to post proof thereof which you neglected to do, which personally I find very telling actually and I am sure others will too.

We are all still waiting also, now that we have been rebuked and you seem to have the corner on "the right way" to watch and learn by your superior example. So, anytime you are ready to oblige and put your money where your mouth is, we are ready to pay full attention.

third time.

Love instead of hate. Mercy instead of condemnation. Recognition of your own spiritual poverty. Avoid seeking out the sin in others, and ignoring your own

You all need to stop.

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