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YET MORE PROOF for Instant Creation of Earth (God Is Right!)

dlamberth

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SackLunch said:
Truth is, evolutionists start out with the belief that God did not create the earth. That is a presupposition. A bias. Evolution starts off with the theory that the earth is old. That is a presupposition and a bias.
As a lover of God, clearly I'm one who does not fit your narrow description. I came to the reality of an old earth perspective from actually studying the geology of the earth.

OK, about Evolution being a theory. True, evolution IS a theory. But so IS electricity. The host of knowledge we have gained about evolutionary theory has moved it to the area of a usable reliable tool, just as has the host of knowledge gained about electricity. Evolutionary and old earth theories say nothing about God because they are tools that explain earth process, not God.

Personally, I believe that if a person argues against evolution as being anti-God is really more focused on the "beliefs" about God than they are in actually making God a reality in this life time where He is needed the most.

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reading this entire thread is funny. the people who claim that the age of the earth whether young or old does not disprove god are the same ones fighting so hard to use the bible to back up their statements. Why?

If this really wasn't an issue, a moot point, if it was a dead horse, Christians would long be past debating the age of the earth or the constants of space-time, rather they spend much time attacking science because obviously there is some credible medium which exists that aims skepticism towards biblical claims.

Science doesn't disprove the bible? Then walk away.
 
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The thing that surprises me is how people believe that if something is written in the Bible it is evidence, or a fact. I have always associated the Bible as a guideline. I don’t believe that Genesis or the Bible for that matter can be taken literally. I mean, have you read the Old Testament? I would like to think that Yahweh is a figurative figure other than an actual being for if Yahweh is the current God, then people would be worshipping, well, the killer of thousands of Jews...If you read the creation story literally then you must read Yahweh’s slaughter of mankind literally.
 
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SackLunch said:
Did granites form by magma slowly cooling over millions and millions of years? Could polonium halos prove once and for all the sudden creation of the earth as recorded in the Bible?

This article contains objective information along with objections and challenges to this theory.

As a side note, this also proves that Creation Science is a valid scholarly pursuit.

http://www.halos.com
Polonium haloes are indistinguishable from those produced by Radon - 222, which has a rate consistent with the evolutionary model. So you'd first have to prove that Gentry's halos were Po-210. Even if you could, there still wouldn't be any evidence whatsoever that could be considered supportive of a literal Genesis, and there is still a helluva lot to disprove it. There isn't a shard of honest science involved with creationism at all. It is an inherently dishonest position promoting of a long list of stupid lies, and that's the most that can be said for it.
 
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Loudmouth said:
"Proof" requires positive evidence. There is no positive evidence for a different kind of light, therefore it is a presupposition to claim that it did.
You believe that, say, things decayed for 80 million years, right? Prove it. At least the bible supports my ideas.



And if other people's creation myths say something different how am I supposed to incorporate it?
Stick to real science. We all grow tired of myths like granny and the speck.

Before Bible claims can be accepted they need to be verified with evidence. No such verification exists, therefore belief in these claims is presupposition.
No such verifier exists, don't blame God for your inabilities to observe the spiritual. There are oodles of proofs, like the birth, and death of the Messiah prophesied centuries before, miracles, a winessed ressurected Jesus, etc. To stand over in a corner, ignoring all these things yet clinging to an unprovable belief that our future will be only a physical one is laughable.



So you agree that all existing empirical evidence points to the constancy of the physical laws as they exist now?
As far as I know, why not?
 
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Aron-Ra said:
... still wouldn't be any evidence whatsoever that could be considered supportive of a literal Genesis, and there is still a helluva lot to disprove it. There isn't a shard of honest science involved with creationism at all. It is an inherently dishonest position promoting of a long list of stupid lies, and that's the most that can be said for it.
Baseless blasphemy.
 
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Has anyone actually ever read those AV numbers? I don't. I know if I do I might lose intellegence if I believe any of it.
I think you would have to lose intelligence before you could believe any of it.

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