Yec

[Non sequitur]

Yes.

Gravity affects time-time on earth is different than time out in space.

Time dilation
http://creation.com/how-can-distant-starlight-reach-us-in-just-6000-years



A Summary of Evidence for Literal 24-hr Creation Days in Genesis 1.
http://hermeneutics.kulikovskyonline.net/hermeneutics/Gendays.htm

Now that's something interesting to look-up.

Thanks

And fossils?

 

[LinuxUser]

So somewhere in this 6 day thing, he created the stars.

You just don't know what day?

No, I just don't believe He created the stars during the setup of Earth.

 

[razeontherock]

It doesn't say when He made the stars it includes them in the verse. In fact it only calls the division of Day/Night the fourth day. They could have been there but covered up on Earth. The firmament does not have to be space but it could be the sky

This is all correct. In fact the previous destruction alluded to could well have been caused by the meteor that gives us the Yucatan, with the previous ruling species being the dinosaurs, and the resulting confusion would surely have blotted out all star light for some time. The whole account can be read to account for the cambrian explosion as well. (Not saying any of these things are specified, but they are not excluded either. One unspoken point of such passages is to inspire curiosity, which seems to have worked)

 

[razeontherock]

Pretty sure it did.

"And the evening and the morning were the third day" preceded all that and, "And the evening and the morning were the fourth day," followed it.

Your problem here is assuming this was written as history, scientific text, or necessarily in chronological order. Lots (and lots) of Scripture proves that assumption to be false.

 

[razeontherock]

So somewhere in this 6 day thing, he created the stars.

You just don't know what day?

Linux is correct, there is no reason to think Gen 1 refers to creating the Universe. We have passages referring to pre Gen 1 time.

So again, what science discovers agrees with Biblical revelation

The Earth and the Universe are not nearly the same age.

 

[Non sequitur]

Linux is correct, there is no reason to think Gen 1 refers to creating the Universe. We have passages referring to pre Gen 1 time.

So again, what science discovers agrees with Biblical revelation

The Earth and the Universe are not nearly the same age.

And any radiometric dating of the earth?

 

[Non sequitur]

Yes.

Gravity affects time-time on earth is different than time out in space.

A Summary of Evidence for Literal 24-hr Creation Days in Genesis 1.
http://hermeneutics.kulikovskyonline.net/hermeneutics/Gendays.htm

I started reading this, but stopped when it went into the It-can-be-read-anyway-we-want-to kinda stuff...

Time dilation
http://creation.com/how-can-distant-starlight-reach-us-in-just-6000-years

This was the most interesting read in a while.


This was, primarily, the most "compelling" evidence...

"The constellation of satellites orbits the earth at an altitude of about 20,000km. At this height, the atomic clocks on board the satellites run faster than the same clocks on earth by 42 microseconds per day. The satellites are travelling at around 12,000 km per hour which produces an opposing relativistic effect of slowing the clocks down by about 5 microseconds per day."

Atomic clocks work by measuring the microwave signal that electrons in atoms emit (9,192,631,770 Hz) when they change energy levels in caesium-133 or rubidium-87.

I really don't see that relatively low speed (compared to light) affecting it too much, especially when it is in a (loosely) fixed gravitational pull, but it could be gladly thrown in the mix.

Because of the gravitational mass difference (20,000 km), the clock that is closer to the gravitational mass (earth), i.e. deeper in its "gravity well", appears to go slower than the clock that is more distant (GPS).


So, while the gravitational pull affects mass of the caesium-133, allowing for more jumps in the electrons energy levels, all it does it measure more jumps.

Time didn't go "faster", the atomic clock measured more jumps, yielding in more units to count.

And more "time".

 

[razeontherock]

And any radiometric dating of the earth?

Extra-Biblical

 

[Non sequitur]

Extra-Biblical

Exrta-something

 

[Non sequitur]

I started reading this, but stopped when it went into the It-can-be-read-anyway-we-want-to kinda stuff...



This was the most interesting read in a while.


This was, primarily, the most "compelling" evidence...

"The constellation of satellites orbits the earth at an altitude of about 20,000km. At this height, the atomic clocks on board the satellites run faster than the same clocks on earth by 42 microseconds per day. The satellites are travelling at around 12,000 km per hour which produces an opposing relativistic effect of slowing the clocks down by about 5 microseconds per day."

Atomic clocks work by measuring the microwave signal that electrons in atoms emit (9,192,631,770 Hz) when they change energy levels in caesium-133 or rubidium-87.

I really don't see that relatively low speed (compared to light) affecting it too much, especially when it is in a (loosely) fixed gravitational pull, but it could be gladly thrown in the mix.

Because of the gravitational mass difference (20,000 km), the clock that is closer to the gravitational mass (earth), i.e. deeper in its "gravity well", appears to go slower than the clock that is more distant (GPS).


So, while the gravitational pull affects mass of the caesium-133, allowing for more jumps in the electrons energy levels, all it does it measure more jumps.

Time didn't go "faster", the atomic clock measured more jumps, yielding in more units to count.

And more "time".

Really? Nothing on this?