YAHUAH

[YahuahSaves]

God has spoken to me.

So why should I believe you when you have no evidence?

 

[YahuahSaves]

That's rather flippant isn't it? I am trying to understand where you're coming from.

No you're not, you're trying to tell me I'm wrong. And you still didn't answer my question on how you believe YHWH is pronounced. Avoiding the question? You can't sit there and tell me I'm wrong on the spelling and pronunciation, and when I change my screen name that I'm "using his name in vain".

 

[YahuahSaves]

I think for this reason private revelation is not doctrinally useful, because we can’t know for sure what is real and what is a deception except through immense prayer and discernment.

My experience wasn't a dream. And the enemy is not strong enough to do what had happened to me, he can manipulate thoughts, dreams and emotions but that's about it. God wouldn't allow satan to give someone an experience who is genuinely seeking HIM. Jesus came to save.
The closest scripture I can relate it to are these: Hebrews 10:16 / Ezekiel 11:19
I try to explain (the unexplainable) Here and Here

 

[YahuahSaves]

It means “I AM that I AM” and refers to the unoriginate nature of God. This is why when our Lord in the Gospel declares that “before Abraham was, I AM.”

It can also mean "being", "to be" and "he exists".

 

[The Liturgist]

My experience wasn't a dream. And the enemy is not strong enough to do what had happened to me, he can manipulate thoughts, dreams and emotions but that's about it. God wouldn't allow satan to give someone an experience who is genuinely seeking HIM. Jesus came to save.
The closest scripture I can relate it to are these: Hebrews 10:16 / Ezekiel 11:19
I try to explain (the unexplainable) Here and Here

To be clear, I was not suggesting your experience was false or a dream. I have no way of knowing. All I was saying is that I do know that we can be misled.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Yet many places that translate to 'the name' do not include the article of 'ha'

View attachment 325688 Just 'Shem'. That comes from Leviticus 24:16 Whoever blasphemes the name of the LORD must to be put to death;

I think here it refers to someone or someones that have made a name for themselves.

It seems there's some talk on Youtube of this being a pagan deity.

My understanding is that it came about in Germany about 1,000 years ago in the galut.

This doesn't really state whose name, does it?


The Hebrew word הַשֵּׁם֙ hashem is found in a few places.
The Genesis 6:4 account of course but also here
Ezekiel 22:5 - speaking of an ill repute name

and here in Deuteronomy 28:58 where it is found with the tetragramaton nearby

If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD

אִם־לֹ֨א תִשְׁמֹ֜ר לַעֲשֹׂ֗ות אֶת־כָּל־דִּבְרֵי֙ הַתֹּורָ֣ה הַזֹּ֔את הַכְּתוּבִ֖ים בַּסֵּ֣פֶר הַזֶּ֑ה לְ֠יִרְאָה אֶת־הַשֵּׁ֞ם הַנִּכְבָּ֤ד וְהַנֹּורָא֙ הַזֶּ֔ה אֵ֖ת יְהוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֶֽיךָ׃

I've highlighted 'the name' and the tetragrammaton.

But this one in Leviticus is even more intriguing Lev 2:11

ויקב בן־האשה הישראלית את־השם ויקלל ויביאו אתו אל־משה ושם אמו שלמית בת־דברי למטה־דן׃

It is peaking about cursing G-ds name

"And the Israelitish woman's son blasphemed the name of the LORD, and cursed. And they brought him unto Moses: (and his mother's name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan​

''of the LORD' was added in, it doesn't say that in the text.

Notice both that passage in Lev and the one in Deut. have the 'et' preceeding it.


אֶת־הַשֵּׁ֞ם את־השם

I remembered us speaking of this. Ezekiel 34:29 uses l'shem לְשֵׁ֑ם

 

[YahuahSaves]

To be clear, I was not suggesting your experience was false or a dream. I have no way of knowing. All I was saying is that I do know that we can be misled.

Yes I know. I've been misled. Right before I asked for forgiveness and got "saved" last year in fact. I was led to believe the enemy was God and the only thing that saved me from being possessed was my childhood knowledge of my religious upbringing that God gave us choice and he doesn't force himself on any one. That being said, God certainly can allow the enemy to have leeway in order to get his point across. Which he did well and truly. Having knowledge of the spiritual realm is not something I wish on anyone because any kind of normal life after such experiences is nearly impossible.

 

[Der Alte]

So why should I believe you when you have no evidence?

Why should I believe you when you have no evidence? If the pronunciation YaHuaH is correct some Jewish scholars should be familiar with it. Only crickets.

 

[Lulav]

No you're not, you're trying to tell me I'm wrong. And you still didn't answer my question on how you believe YHWH is pronounced. Avoiding the question? You can't sit there and tell me I'm wrong on the spelling and pronunciation, and when I change my screen name that I'm "using his name in vain".

I don't think you can judge that. And I don't have a corner on the market of how the Holy name is pronounced.
However I don't think if you believe that is how to transliterate and say His Holy name you should be using it for yourself.

 

[Lulav]

I believe what God said to me 10 years ago. Which was a word that sounded like "Ya-who-ah". People online who pronounce it how I heard it, I will believe over those who tell me it's not correct, or not possible.

Right before I asked for forgiveness and got "saved" last year in fact.

So you say you heard God tell you that name 10 years ago but you only got saved a year ago?
So how do you know it was God himself and not another entity?

 

[Der Alte]

So you say you heard God tell you that name 10 years ago but you only got saved a year ago?
So how do you know it was God himself and not another entity?

@YaHuaH I agree with you Lulav.

 

[Jonaitis]

I believe what God said to me 10 years ago. Which was a word that sounded like "Ya-who-ah". People online who pronounce it how I heard it, I will believe over those who tell me it's not correct, or not possible.

I could be wrong, but scholars agree that the name contains only two syllables. Yah-weh is the most likely the candidate.

You may be associating what you "heard" with the name of Jehovah in your subconscious mind, and you took that as coming from God.

 

[Der Alte]

One paragraph from the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia 10 page article Names of God.

If the explanation of the form above given be the true one, the original pronunciation must have been Yahweh () or Yahaweh (). From this the contracted form Jah or Yah () is most readily explained, and also the forms Jeho or Yeho ( = ), and Jo or Yo (, contracted from ), which the word assumes in combination in the first part of compound proper names, and Yahu or Yah () in the second part of such names. The fact may also be mentioned that in Samaritan poetry rimes with words similar in ending to Yahweh, and Theodoret ("Quæst. 15 in Exodum") states that the Samaritans pronounced the name 'Iαβέ. Epiphanius ascribes the same pronunciation to an early Christian sect. Clement of Alexandria, still more exactly, pronounces 'Iαουέ or 'Iαουαί, and Origen, 'Iα. Aquila wrote the name in archaic Hebrew letters. In the Jewish-Egyptian magic-papyri it appears as Ιαωουηε. At least as early as the third century B.C. the name seems to have been regarded by the Jews as a "nomen ineffabile," on the basis of a somewhat extreme interpretation of Ex. xx. 7 and Lev. xxiv. 11 (see Philo, "De Vita Mosis," iii. 519, 529). Written only in consonants, the true pronunciation was forgotten by them. The Septuagint, and after it the New Testament, invariably render δκύριος ("the Lord").

NAMES OF GOD - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Complete contents the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia.

jewishencyclopedia.com

 

[YahuahSaves]

Why should I believe you when you have no evidence? If the pronunciation YaHuaH is correct some Jewish scholars should be familiar with it. Only crickets.

Exactly my point. You're being hypocritical.

 

[YahuahSaves]

I don't think you can judge that. And I don't have a corner on the market of how the Holy name is pronounced.
However I don't think if you believe that is how to transliterate and say His Holy name you should be using it for yourself.

I don’t think you should be telling other people how to pronounce his name if you aren't even sure yourself. I don't have a "corner". I'm using his name out of reverence not because I want to be God. Throughout scripture we're told to call on his name not his title, so why was his name replaced by the title God/Lord?

Acts 22:16
1 Kings 18:24
Psalm 124:8
Romans 10:13-14
Zephaniah 3:9
Genesis 4:26
Genesis 13:4
2 Timothy 2:19
Zechariah 13:9

 

[YahuahSaves]

So you say you heard God tell you that name 10 years ago but you only got saved a year ago?
So how do you know it was God himself and not another entity?

Because I know what the enemy is capable of due to a spiritual attack that happened before I asked God for forgiveness and repented. People believe the enemy has more power than God, he does not. He can only counterfeit what God has already created. He can manipulate our mind and emotions, but what happened to me was an invitation of God's grace that I refused at the time. Salvation is a choice we have to make, God doesn't force it upon us.

 

[YahuahSaves]

@YaHuaH I agree with you Lulav.

The Monumental Mess-Up!

"Somehow we have turned this around. Somehow we turned God’s name into a title, and the Accusers title into a name. How did this happen?

We have taken the name of God, YHWH, and we have turned it into a title, “the LORD”. And then we took the title of the Evil One and turned it into a name, “Satan”. This is a monumental mess-up!

It’s an absolute shame that we’ve done this, that we’ve given the Adversary a name. Names are so important, and personal! It is powerful to have a name, a descriptor of who you are; it gives you a sense of self worth and the ability to share intimacy with other human beings.

The title the LORD takes the intimacy out of God’s name. It puts a separation between us and God. He seems unattainable and distant.

Paradoxically, giving a name to the Evil One, allows him to have intimacy with human beings. It is a great disservice we have done by allowing this to happen… and there is evil behind it. It is possibly one of the Evil One’s greatest successes!

By removing God’s name and substituting “the LORD” we lose the profound intimacy related to us in the Bible. Imagine speaking to your best friend and having to say something like this:

Hey, the FRIEND! How has your day been? Oh, the FRIEND, I’ve missed you.

Listen to how awesome and intimate Isaiah 42 sounds like when you put in God’s name instead of a title:

Isaiah 42:5-9

Thus says God the LORD YHWH, Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread out the earth and its offspring, Who gives breath to the people on it and spirit to those who walk in it,"

From: Satan: ADVERSARY is not a name

 

[YahuahSaves]

I could be wrong, but scholars agree that the name contains only two syllables. Yah-weh is the most likely the candidate.

You may be associating what you "heard" with the name of Jehovah in your subconscious mind, and you took that as coming from God.

No. It wasn't in "my mind". the J and v in Jehovah didn't exist in ancient hebrew. Do some research. But I wouldn't be dependent on "biblical scholars" to interpret scripture, this is done by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Jonaitis]

No. It wasn't in "my mind". the J and v in Jehovah didn't exist in ancient hebrew. Do some research. But I wouldn't be dependent on "biblical scholars" to interpret scripture, this is done by the Holy Spirit.

Of course not, but your pronounciation sounds so much like Jehovah, I can't take it serious. You ask me to do research, while you are over there believing a "voice" told you the facts.

 

[YahuahSaves]

Of course not, but your pronounciation sounds so much like Jehovah, I can't take it serious. You ask me to do research, while you are over there believing a "voice" told you the facts.

"Jehovah" was an attempted English translation of Yehowah. Which is the hebrew. I'm telling you to do your own research because me telling you what I heard God say is not convincing you, fair enough, I don't expect it to convince anyone. But I am convinced because I know what I heard and experienced and the enemy is just not that powerful, sorry.